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    Quote Originally Posted by Gruno View Post
    I think Hitler is a typical example of a man with a vision, who had his shot, and lost. I believe Hitler overreached, and made some very stupid decisions that did, eventually, more harm then good.

    The reason white racialists are looked at with suspicion nowadays and the reason white nationalists are despised is all because of him.
    I agree. He was on the right course and ended up pushing for too much too soon. The real threat to the world was the communist Soviet Union, not national socialist Germany. I think Germany would have been part of the Allied force had they waited for the inevitable expansionist actions of the Soviets.

    I think that era can be looked back on and studied, even admired. But I also know that in this day and age as we (those of us that love our people and are racially-conscious about our plight) try to open the minds of others and to gain some cohesion among our people that we must be cognizent of the negativity and replusion that a common person feels (due to smear propaganda) when they always see 'Nazism' linked with the modern white racialist/cultural preservation movement. It is also looked upon as old-fashioned thinking; so for people that are looking to the future, they need ideology that is dressed up modern even if it is not modern. It gives the impression of a new age, new era.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gruno View Post
    I think Hitler is a typical example of a man with a vision, who had his shot, and lost. I believe Hitler overreached, and made some very stupid decisions that did, eventually, more harm then good.

    Also, I firmly believe that Hitler's mentality of "I go down, and I will take my nation down with me" he displayed in the end to be both horribly arrogant and just plain evil.

    Do you mean the so-called political testament of Adolf Hitler (the long one), not to be confused with his last will and testament? That document is fraudulent. That's the only place that I can think of were Hitler allegedly displayed that attitude.

    Hitler's actions towards the end were not at all in the nature of taking the nation down with him. Speer claimed otherwise, but he is not a reliable witness for various reasons.

    The reason white racialists are looked at with suspicion nowadays and the reason white nationalists are despised is all because of him. So, what do I think of Hitler? I think the world would've been better off without him and the National Socialist movement could have accomplished so much more if it had been led by a mentally stable and sane individual.

    That's what I think of Hitler.
    You only need to look at history to see that white racialists would be in the same position now as if Hitler had never existed; maybe the war slightly advanced the time when 'racism' would become unacceptable, but it would have happened anyway. Racial segregation persisted in America for another 20 years, and in South Africa for another 50 years after the war.

    It stopped existing because of a cultural shift that had nothing to do with Adolf Hitler.

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    Hitler was a great man. Bottom line. Even JFK thought so. Look it up. JFK thought that one day Hitlers name would be cleared. JFK is arguably one of the nations (America) most respected and loved leaders. And all you naysayers think you know better than him? If a man of his stature and influence can go aaaaall the way out on a limb and make this statement, an enormously unpopular one at that, you might think that there may be something to this idea. Just the thought of Adolf Hitler and what he believed and represented takes my breath away. You want to talk about glory? They didn't have to win the war to be glorious .. they fought for something we'll never have the chance to. At least not on that scale. It's better to go out as a villian than it is to go out not fighting at all. Adolf Hitler will always be a hero to me.

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    Hitler sure did many good things, there is no doubt about that. But i cannot forgive him what he did in the last year of the war. At some point her realized that the war was lost, and instead of bringing it to an end he swore revenge. Not on his opponents, but on the german people that in his eyes had betrayed him.
    That´s why he wanted all those battles that couldnt be won. He wanted that the german people where bombed back into the stone age. They should loose all basis for a new beginning after the war. So he let the youth fight a senseless fight in which so many of them died, instead of giving up earlier a heavy drain on our genetic pool. He wanted to make sure that as few as possible of the next generation survifed.
    He let them use up every last bit of resources they still had, in the hopes the winners would be neither able nor willing to provide for a whole people after occupying germany, leading to the death of many more (that plan failed thank ODIN). I could give many more examples.
    To me that is proof that all his theories about "BLUT UND BODEN" and about the german race being so noble was more talk then believe. A real patriot and preservasionist couldn´t do such things to his own people, to his own blood !!!
    There won't be humans in 500 years. Enough people choke themselves when they jerk off we gave it a name. We ain't a species made to last.

    Judging by it´s name common sense must once have been a pretty common thing. When and why did that change, so it became the rare treasure it is today???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feyn
    At some point her realized that the war was lost, and instead of bringing it to an end he swore revenge. Not on his opponents, but on the german people that in his eyes had betrayed him.
    That´s why he wanted all those battles that couldnt be won. He wanted that the german people where bombed back into the stone age. They should loose all basis for a new beginning after the war. So he let the youth fight a senseless fight in which so many of them died, instead of giving up earlier a heavy drain on our genetic pool. He wanted to make sure that as few as possible of the next generation survifed.
    Could you please provide some sources/quotes by Hitler for that? That he took revenge, that he wanted to have the German youth killed etc? Those are tough allegations that should be sourced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kauz R. Waldher View Post
    Hitler was a great man. Bottom line.
    I wont argue with you there.

    Even JFK thought so. Look it up. JFK thought that one day Hitlers name would be cleared.
    Here is what he said:

    "Hitler will emerge from the hatred that surrounds him now as one of the most significant figures who ever lived... He had a mystery about him in the way that he lived and in the manner of his death that will live and grow after him. He had in him the stuff of which legends are made."

    JFK is not saying that Hitler was a good man. He felt that Hitler should no longer be spoken of in a hushed breath, and that the man should be given more consideration when being studied. JFK most certainly would have believed the holocaust was a fact and that Germany's defeat was a good thing.

    One of our greatest enemies, the jewish-run ADL, loved this man:

    http://www.adl.org/immigrants/video.asp

    JFK is arguably one of the nations (America) most respected and loved leaders.
    Almost exclusively by liberals.

    And all you naysayers think you know better than him? If a man of his stature and influence can go aaaaall the way out on a limb and make this statement, an enormously unpopular one at that, you might think that there may be something to this idea.
    JFK was just as bad as his POS brother in advancing amnesty for illegal immigrants. He was also a passionate defender of the civil rights movement. Both of these have become the very death of Germanic-Americans.

    I feel that his martyr's death(as well as his brothers) only helped to further shut up opposition to his marxist plans of turning Germanic America into a multi-cultural cesspool. If the man had lived it is quite possible that his dreams would have been opposed, and such monstrous eras as the late-1960s would not have been as influential. Naturally the hippie/liberal jews were the worst JFK fetishists and took up his cause where he left off in Germanic America.

    America certainly became way more liberal after his presidency, under the impression that if he was such a good man then his liberal ideals must also be good. Even though she has always been right-wing my own mom fell for it herself at one time. She told me how when she first learned of his assassination that she had to pull her car over and cry. Well, little did she know that those tears should have been for the future of her fellow Germanics, who are suffering greatly as a result of JFK and his multi-culture policies. Not just America, but his influence traveled to Europe where the liberal element championed his cause with devastating results for Germanics over there as well.

    Like his brother Ted, I hope he rots in hel!

    Just the thought of Adolf Hitler and what he believed and represented takes my breath away.
    Agreed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kauz R. Waldher View Post
    Hitler was a great man. Bottom line. Even JFK thought so. Look it up.
    I've never heard that before. I probably could look it up but I really would appreciate it if you could provide a link.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Horned God View Post
    I've never heard that before. I probably could look it up but I really would appreciate it if you could provide a link.
    Perhaps you should read the post above yours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronan View Post

    One of our greatest enemies, the jewish-run ADL, loved this man:
    It's odd that the Jews loved him because he almost certainly had no great love for them. His father Joseph P. Kennedy whom JFK was greatly influenced by was a known anti-Semite and had tried to keep America out of WWII.

    Bobby Kennedy called Marylin Monroe's film producer a "rotten Kike bastard" when the latter wouldn't give her the weekend off to attend JFK's birthday party (She quit the film instead.).

    I don't know what JFK's exact thoughts were on the Jews but I suspect from the attitude of the other Kennedy men that they were neither particularly warm or fuzzy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Horned God View Post
    It's odd that the Jews loved him because he almost certainly had no great love for them.
    No great love but certainly no great dislike either.

    His father Joseph P. Kennedy whom JFK was greatly influenced by was a known anti-Semite and had tried to keep America out of WWII.

    Bobby Kennedy called Marylin Monroe's film producer a "rotten Kike bastard" when the latter wouldn't give her the weekend off to attend JFK's birthday party (She quit the film instead.).
    The jew is perfectly willing to “forgive” past remarks as long as said Gentile is prepared to make amends, hence his speech to the ADL. Naturally they will expect the jewish-owned media to keep quiet about his family's remarks.

    Also, since JFK was a torchbearer for the marxist/liberal movement in America the ADL needs to ride his fame and influence much in the same way they persist in reminding Germanics to be ashamed about the holocaust. They love to pull his name out of the hat as an example of "great men" who adored immigration and "equality".

    I don't know what JFK's exact thoughts were on the Jews but I suspect from the attitude of the other Kennedy men that they were neither particularly warm or fuzzy.
    He never really said anything in favor of them. But he also never said anything in condemnation either. Sure he opposed many of isreal's ambitions, but he also never came out and explained in detail the exact danger that isreal posed to the world, Germanics in particular. If he ever wrote anything down about them you can be for sure those papers will never see the light of day.

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