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    10 Signs The U.S. Is Losing Its Influence In The Western Hemisphere

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    We won't be the alpha dog in the western hemisphere forever.

    Even if the U.S. hadn't crashed into a financial crisis, there are demographic, material, and political forces that have been spreading power around the Americas for decades.

    Brazil is first among the BRICs (Brazi, Russia, India, and China) -- four economies that are supposed to overtake the six largest Western economies by 2032.

    Mexico is first among the MAVINS (Mexico, Australia, Vietnam, Indonesia, Nigeria, and South Africa) -- six economies we expect to blow away expectations and become leading powers in their regions relatively soon.

    Canada and Venezuela are oil powers of the distant future.

    Peru and Chile are sitting on a fortune of metals and minerals.

    All these countries are cranking up, while America faces plenty of fiscal and demographic problems at home.

    Here are Signs the U.S. Is Losing Its Influence In Its Own Backyard:

    Our most powerful regional ally--Brazil--refuses to follow our orders on Iran

    Hillary Clinton went to Brazil to beg support for sanctions against Iran and came away empty handed. Now the UN is counting on Brazil, which is friendly with America and Iran, to lead nuclear diplomacy.

    The World's Richest Man is now a Mexican, not an American.

    For the first time in 16 years, the World's Richest Man is not an American. Carlos Slim, worth $54 billion, is the first Latin American to hold that title and one of many emerging market billionaires to eclipse the U.S.

    Three years after a US financial crisis, Latin America is again growing rapidly. The U.S.? Not so much...

    Compare this to what happened during the Great Depression. Latin America was devastated when U.S. investment dried up and the export market soured in the 30s. A League of Nations report said Chile, Peru, and Bolivia suffered the world's worst depression.

    Today is quite different. Brazil, Argentina, and Mexico have led a buoyant recovery from the global recession, according to Reuters. The regional economy is expected by the UN to grow 4.3 percent in 2010. If the American consumer remains weak, Latin American exports will move elsewhere.

    Chile produces 300% more copper than America--the former world leader in copper production

    America used to lead the world in copper production. We produced 49% of the world's copper in 1929, according to this article from the archives. Today we produced 1.2 million tonnes yearly, compared to 5.4 million tonnes in Chile.

    Brazil now produces over four times as much iron ore as the U.S.. We used to lead that industry, too.

    America once led the world in iron mining. In 1892 we discovered the world's largest mine at the Great Lakes Mesabi Range. It was a wellspring for America's industrial might and the foundation of the rust belt.

    Now we claim reserves at 2,100 mt. Seven countries claim higher reserves, including Brazil at 8,900 mt. We produce only 54 mt yearly, while Brazil produces 250 mt.

    Canada and Venezuela will pass the U.S. in oil production in the next decade

    America produces around 9 million billion barrels of oil a day. Venezuela and Canada each produce around 3 million. But America's reserves are 21 billion barrels and may last less than a decade. Our oil-rich neighbors claim 99 billion bbl and 178 billion bbl, respectively, and will keep producing oil into the distant future.

    Now Brazil exports over twice as much beef as we do

    America used to lead the world in beef production. Although we still do, America exports only 800,000 mt of beef per year. Brazil exports 2,200,000 mt. Here's some ironic excerpts from a 1911 NYT article: "American-Canadian syndicate to have world's largest beef plant in Brazil... The chilled beef industry has never been tried before in Brazil and has only recently gotten under way in Argentina."

    Brazil is now a critical partner for Russia, India, and China

    The acronym coined by Goldman Sachs to describe the four key emerging powers has taken on a life of its own. Brazil, Russia, India, and China have held several summits and even discussed making a supranational currency -- that would pull the rug out from the U.S. dollar.

    What's important here is that global emerging powers have good relations and are inclined to work together. For instance, China just signed major contracts to build factories and high-speed rail in Brazil.

    Brazil, Canada, and Mexico all invest a greater share of GDP in clean energy

    A Pew survey found that Brazil invests 0.37% of its economy in clean energy. Canada invests 0.25% and Mexico invests 0.14%. America is eleventh in the world at 0.13%.

    Hugo Chavez is still in power

    The CIA has a notorious history of interventions in Latin America, supposedly targeting Jacobo Arbenz Guzmán, Fidel Castro, Manuel Noriega, Rios Montt, Che Guevara, and many others. But they haven't stopped Hugo Chavez from railing against the United States for years. Clearly America has adopted a more passive regional strategy.

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    Just trying to help out with a better link.

    10 Signs The U.S. Is Losing Its Influence In The Western Hemisphere (*Click*)

    They missed a couple points though.

    Things like....
    • Obama (a Socialist/Maxist P.O.S.) being elected President.
    • A large percentage of the population in the US being brain dead when it comes to race.
    • Increasing loss of fundamental rights and privacy by an intrusive government that grabs more power and privacy from the average citizen with each passing day.
    • That most of our nation financially belongs to China.
    • The fact that our government keeps focusing on Iran instead of North Korea which is a larger threat IMO.
    • That our military can't keep two wars going at once even though they're both in small nations.
    • That we keep starting the above wars for the benefit of Israel.
    • That ordinary citizens of European Heritage can't travel in their own inner cities without being the victim of a violent crime because our so-called 'Justice System' sucks and it keeps letting violent Non-White predators out of prison again and again.
    • That our culture is being perverted into having our youth idolize and favor Negro hip hop 'culture' (if you could call it that) instead of their own. Etc, etc, etc


    I could go on and on, but I'm sure that everyone gets the point.

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    Originally Posted by Gary in TX
    •That our military can't keep two wars going at once even though they're both in small nations.
    We've already essentially won in Iraq and did long ago. We might bear in mind that Iraqis are generally regarded as the toughest Arabs too. As for Afghanistan, it is the graveyard of empires. Everyone has trouble there...

    •A large percentage of the population in the US being brain dead when it comes to race.
    No doubt a problem, but not that problematic when compared to most other Western states, and most of the rising powers are racial chaff already.

    •The fact that our government keeps focusing on Iran instead of North Korea which is a larger threat IMO.
    That's debatable. Iran is a threat to the regional oil supply. They're also a long term threat to the West what with their potential ability to nuke a/o blackmail Europe and their avowed aim of spreading Islamic revolution globally.

    Anyway, thanks for providing the link. For some reason mine didn't take.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe McCarthy View Post
    We've already essentially won in Iraq and did long ago. We might bear in mind that Iraqis are generally regarded as the toughest Arabs too. As for Afghanistan, it is the graveyard of empires. Everyone has trouble there...
    No we haven't. (won in Iraq)

    There are still 100,000 troops over there right now and they were still there the very day that Obama said that bullshit there were troops killed there that day.

    The Mainstream Media just isn't giving it much press (even Fox News), but it's the truth.

    Here's the exception to the rule.

    Days after Obama says 'Iraq combat over', U.S. troops get pulled into Baghdad battle (*Click*)

    Sep 5th, 2010

    BAGHDAD, Iraq — Days after the U.S. officially ended combat operations and touted Iraq's ability to defend itself, American troops found themselves battling heavily armed militants assaulting an Iraqi military headquarters in the center of Baghdad on Sunday. The fighting killed 12 people and wounded dozens.

    It was the first exchange of fire involving U.S. troops in Baghdad since the Aug. 31 deadline for formally ending the combat mission, and it showed that American troops remaining in the country are still being drawn into the fighting.
    Once US and British Troops leave Iraq altogether it'll go back to the way it was before (one party dictatorship or there will be a three way civil war between the Sunni's, Shiite's and the Kurd's).

    We haven't accomplished anything over there....period.

    No doubt a problem, but not that problematic when compared to most other Western states, and most of the rising powers are racial chaff already.
    I can't believe that you're even trying to debate that point.

    That's debatable. Iran is a threat to the regional oil supply. They're also a long term threat to the West what with their potential ability to nuke a/o blackmail Europe and their avowed aim of spreading Islamic revolution globally.
    We'll have to agree to disagree then.

    The only reason the US Government is worried about Iran is because of Israel.

    They could care less about Islam spreading to Western Countries (that would be 'Racist'.....[Gasp in horror]).

    Anyway, thanks for providing the link. For some reason mine didn't take.
    Sure, no problem.

    I think you just missed a little ']' in the link....that's all it takes.

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    Originally Posted by Gary in TX
    No we haven't. (won in Iraq)
    The occasional battle with insurgents does not detract from the fact that the large scale fighting we were involved in pre-surge and pre-awakening simply does not exist any longer. The situation is stabilized.

    Once US and British Troops leave Iraq altogether it'll go back to the way it was before (one party dictatorship or their will be a three way civil war between the Sunni's, Shiite's and the Kurd's).
    I believe the British may already be gone. In any case, we're not leaving and precisely for the reason you outlined. There will be SOME US presence there basically forever, as there should be.

    We haven't accomplished anything over there....period.
    That remains to be seen. Saddam Hussein was certainly no friendly. The problem, potentially, is that this new regime, which I'm highly suspicious of, will turn into a micro version of Iran.

    The only reason the US Government is worried about Iran is because of Israel.
    This is a simplistic view. But it is common on these boards.

    They could care less about Islam spreading to Western Countries (that would be 'Racist'.....[Gasp in horror]).
    The Pentagon especially is concerned about the rise of Islam in Europe as it presents a clear and present danger to US national security. Moreover, the US beef with Iran extends well beyond Israel. The Iranians hate our guts, and would hate us if Israel disappeared tomorrow. In any case, whatever the US government's motives, it is in the interests of the West to see Iran contained, the mullahs ultimately overthrown, and its nuclear program stopped.

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    Brazil is first among the BRICs (Brazi, Russia, India, and China) -- four economies that are supposed to overtake the six largest Western economies by 2032.

    Mexico is first among the MAVINS (Mexico, Australia, Vietnam, Indonesia, Nigeria, and South Africa) -- six economies we expect to blow away expectations and become leading powers in their regions relatively soon.
    I wouldn't count in Mexico, Brazil, Nigeria, etc... to excel in the future, they are lacking in human capital. While they have plenty of people the quality of the populace is lacking.

    Peru and Chile are sitting on a fortune of metals and minerals.
    So? There is greater value added in making steel from iron ore, coal & limestone then there is in extracting the raw material from the earth. Whoever makes the finished products will be far wealthier then those mining the raw minerals.

    The World's Richest Man is now a Mexican, not an American.

    For the first time in 16 years, the World's Richest Man is not an American. Carlos Slim, worth $54 billion, is the first Latin American to hold that title and one of many emerging market billionaires to eclipse the U.S.
    The Mexican government gave him a monoploy on phone service. He wouldn't be able to compete in America.

    Speaking of Mexico, they export their misery (excess population) to America, their economy is heavily dependent on remittances from the US, parts of the country are falling to the control of the drug cartels - long term their future doesn't look too bright.

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