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    Two totally different girls!!

    How is it a 100% verifyed pic of her in ..old age

    Through the twinning program of the Holocaust Centre of Toronto, UJA Federation, I was introduced to Ilse Hirsch, Hannelore’s older sister. She became my twinning mentor and was able to tell me about Hannelore’s life during the Holocaust. It is my honour to dedicate my Bat Mitzvah in Hannelore’s memory.


    The Ilse Hirsch in the picture with the Jewish girl was Hannelore’s older sister




    This Ilse Hirsch was a German girl who became one of the main organizers of the BDM (Bund Deutscher Mädel, or League of German Girls) in the town of Monschau at 16 years old. She trained at Hülchrath Castle for her part in 'Operation Carnival', the assassination of Franz Oppenhoff.

    Dropped by parachute near the outskirts of the city, the five man and one woman team was guided to Oppenhoff's house by Hirsch, who knew the area well. Oppenhoff had recently been appointed chief Burgermeister of Aachen, the first German city to fall to the Allies, by the Americans and by accepting this appointment he had signed his own death warrant. Regarded as a traitor by the Nazi resistance movement, the so-called Werewolves, he was a prime candidate for assassination. Oppenhoff was fatally shot by the leader of the team, SS Lt. Wenzel and their radio operator, Sepp Leitgeb, as he stood on the steps of his residence. Making their escape from the city, Hirsch caught her foot on a trip-wire attached to a buried mine which severely injured her knee and killed her companion, Sepp Leitgeb. Spending a long time in hospital she eventually returned to her home in Euskirchen.

    After the war, the survivors of the assassination team, with the exception of SS Lt. Wenzel, were tracked down and arrested. At the Aachen 'Werewolf Trial' in October, 1949, all were found guilty and sentenced to from one to four years in prison. Ilse escaped prison and was set free. In 1972, Ilse Hirsch was happily married, the mother of two teenage boys and living only a few miles from the house where the assassination had taken place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Den groda View Post
    Two totally different girls!!
    How is it a 100% verifyed pic of her in ..old age
    Well then i rly miss-read\understand that twinning program... my bad



    So then to the other pic i posted, what u all think\is ur opinion, is it a second pic from the BDM girl?

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    No, one is far more leptosome

    That poor poor lost German girl :

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    Really a very interesting and racially progressive face.

    I'd say she is Nordid with Cromagnid and Osteuropid influences, the latter might be between Baltid and Eastbaltid.

    She somehow reminds me on Kristanna Loken, which doesn't look exactly the same but seems to be a similar mixture of basically the same element, also on a very high individual level:



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    Quote Originally Posted by Sporidium View Post
    Maybe i just should call her and ask for some Photos?
    I would be most happy if i could get any trace to her two sons.
    I am 18 years old and got the resources to start this
    Research for good. The first thing we have to confirm is that it is Ilse on the picture. Should i call the bundesarchiv? Does anyone know more of where any of her relatives live? Any german speaking person wgo wants to join in?
    Help me get classified! Any comment is most welcome*
    http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=135735

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    I would like to have her story told especially at a time when even German politicians admit multiculturalism has been an utter failure.

    This brave soul with a beautiful face has been instrumental in history and has known some major players.

    I think we need to get her story which is from a side not often told.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agrippa View Post
    Really a very interesting and racially progressive face.

    I'd say she is Nordid with Cromagnid and Osteuropid influences, the latter might be between Baltid and Eastbaltid.

    She somehow reminds me on Kristanna Loken, which doesn't look exactly the same but seems to be a similar mixture of basically the same element, also on a very high individual level:



    somewhat a lighter and maybe more nordish version of me then(?)

    Anyways! Those of you who wants to find this woman please let us do! any information about her is of value, if any german boy or girl would call the people that shares Illse hirschs surname in the region she lived and ask for any relatives would be greaat
    Help me get classified! Any comment is most welcome*
    http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=135735

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    Quote Originally Posted by SchubertJägermei. View Post
    Must be one of the most beautiful girls I've ever seen.
    What european subrace is she? do you know any other celeb/friend that looks like her?
    I used to go out with a girl that looked exactly, and I mean exactly like her, apart from the hair, she had jet black hair that was naturally in tight ringlets.

    The nearest I ever got to being married, broke my heart to lose her and no other Women I ever met compares to her beauty.
    She was from the English/Scotish border region.

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