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    My Examples of Keltic Nordic and Falisch!

    Few years ago I made some examples of these subraces

    Perhaps we could look together for other similar Keltic Nordids or Faelids.


    (ps: the last person on the Faelid picture might be leaning towards tronder, he seems to have lot's of Nordid admixture, some might call it Tronder)



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    I have also noted a few celebrities of these types and am interested as to whether I am accurate.

    Are these two phenotypes also yours RT?

    Who are your examples? For the KN, I know Edwin van der Sar (bottom row, center) & Peter Cushing (bottom row, right). Is that Rutger Hauer in your Faelid section?

    Hopefully posters like Waldstein will swing by & give their seal of approval to such examples.

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    Yes that is Rutger Hauer. He really looks like a male version of my mother i must say, they could be siblings.

    Your examples seem very typical Ragnar. I approve with all of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Way of Deception View Post
    I have also noted a few celebrities of these types and am interested as to whether I am accurate.

    Are these two phenotypes also yours RT?

    Who are your examples? For the KN, I know Edwin van der Sar (bottom row, center) & Peter Cushing (bottom row, right). Is that Rutger Hauer in your Faelid section?

    Hopefully posters like Waldstein will swing by & give their seal of approval to such examples.

    Well I am predominantly Keltic Nordid with CM admixture. My mother is (Keltic)Nordid and my father is somewhere between Faelid and Borreby. Very Cromag. Seems I am just another mixture of it.

    The examples I have found for the K-N Type are just random which I found on the internet.

    That one is Rutger Hauer indeed. He is a typical example of a Dutch Faelid.
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    Some people I consider Keltic Nordic.



    Linden Ashby (American actor)



    Cate Blanchett (Australian actress)



    Edward Burns (American actor)



    George Armstrong Custer (Cavalry commander in the American Civil War)



    Adrian Dunbar (Actor from Northern Ireland)



    Graeme Dott (Scottish snooker player)



    Sam Elliott (American actor)



    Ryan Gosling (Canadian actor)



    Mark Harmon (American actor)



    Chris Martin (English musician)



    Bernard Montgomery (British Military General)



    Edward Norton (American Actor)



    Jean Rochefort (French Actor)



    Meg Ryan (American actress)



    Ian Smith (Former Prime Minister of Rhodesia)



    Willi Stoph (Former Prime Minister of 'German Democratic Republic')



    Tilda Swinton (British actress)



    Jake Weber (English actor)



    David Wenham (Australian actor)



    Thom Yorke (English musician)

    I'm only a beginner at this stuff so interested if you think my examples are accurate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Way of Deception View Post
    I'm only a beginner at this stuff so interested if you think my examples are accurate?
    I'm only a beginner too, however I would say some are accurate and some not so much.

    Out of curiosity, Adrian Dunbar and Tilda Swinton to me look very Dinarid influenced (Norid in Adrian Dunbar's case) - I believe some say that the Keltic-Nordid is understood as having been influenced by a process of Dinaricisation, however are they still typical of the Keltic-Nordid type? Is my understanding of them being Dinarid influenced even accurate, at all?

    Graeme Dott (who I think looks a little Dinarid, too) has a very different shape of head to Chris Martin. Are they both Keltic-Nordid?

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    Bernard Montgomery
    Edward Norton (American Actor)
    Jean Rochefort (French Actor)
    Adrian Dunbar

    I think you are very close with these four, the rest could have Keltic admixture.

    The adrian dunbar is a good example of how are these typ called, aran type? from western ireland.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cenwulf View Post
    I'm only a beginner too, however I would say some are accurate and some not so much.
    Indeed.

    Adrian Dunbar is Keltic Nordid (I already used him as an examplar before), Jean Rochefort and Ian Smith are good examplars of Keltic Nordid.

    Thom Yorke and Graeme Dott are pretty far off to being Nordid anything.

    Ryan Gosling (Capellid/Nordid), David Wenham (Nordid/Dalofaelid), Linden Ashby (Brunn/Nordid) and so on.


    Quote Originally Posted by Cenwulf View Post
    I believe some say that the Keltic-Nordid is understood as having been influenced by a process of Dinaricisation, however are they still typical of the Keltic-Nordid type? Is my understanding of them being Dinarid influenced even accurate, at all?
    Some Keltic Nordids have Dinarid influences, some do not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Way of Deception View Post
    Some people I consider Keltic Nordic.
    Of these, I would class Blanchett, Eliott, Gosling, Martin, Montgomery, Norton, Rochefort and Swinton as Keltic-Nordid proper.

    Also, I would perhaps (though not textbook), put Australian tennis player Samantha Stosur in the KN bracket.



    Other examples I would have down for Keltic-Nordid, albeit the more continental type (Nordid + Dinarid proper) instead of the insular type (Nordid + Bell Beaker Dinarid [= Dinarid + some Atlantid]. The continental type is more clearly intermediate, and features of both types are easier to tell --- though I posted, on purpose quite a variation on all ends of the Continental KN spectrum

    Jörg Haider (deceased Austrian politician)


    Heinz-Christian Strache (Austrian politician - the pseudo-Alpinoid influence appears to be due to his constant smiling)


    Franck Ribery (disharmonious but KN, French footballer)


    Jürgen Melzer (Austrian tennis player)


    Christoph Waltz (Austrian actor)


    Marc Janko (Austrian footballer)


    Jochen Rindt (Austrian ... well Austrian/Rhinelander racing driver)


    And last but not least, Adolf Hitler (well ... Austrian politician. )


    Quote Originally Posted by Rassenhygieniker View Post
    Some Keltic Nordids have Dinarid influences, some do not.
    Keltic Nordid, by definition, includes a Dinaroid strain. Anything else that may seem "a little Keltic" is usually a counter of a more rugged CM-Nordid mixture, usually along the Trönder/Anglo-Saxon; or simply a robust Skandonordid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigurd View Post
    Keltic Nordid, by definition, includes a Dinaroid strain. Anything else that may seem "a little Keltic" is usually a counter of a more rugged CM-Nordid mixture, usually along the Trönder/Anglo-Saxon; or simply a robust Skandonordid.
    By definition it does, but obviously a Keltic Nordid will not always display Dinaroid traits. In such case you may be lead to believe that Dinarid influence is not present, or present but in very such small quantity that it would not lead to show itself in the phenotype, which would make it become negligable.

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