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    Malema - State Should Be Able to Take Private Land!

    The property clause in the Constitution should be amended to strengthen it, ANC Youth League president Julius Malema said on Thursday.

    "The ANCYL's view is that the property clause should be amended and that proper legislation should be passed by Parliament to regulate how the State should expropriate private property in the interests of the people," Malema told reporters at Luthuli House in Johannesburg.

    It did not matter where that land was situated and when there was land available for settlement.

    "Let's have that land for our people," he said.

    "We need a government that will say we're going to take this land, then we will determine the price... take it, or leave it."

    The government has admitted that the willing buyer, willing seller policy for land expropriation was not working.

    Malema said "an unambiguous policy position" was needed for the State to take whatever land necessary and itself decide on the compensation.

    The ANCYL would push for a change in the ANC's policy position on land after the ANC national general council, being held in Durban from September 20 to 24.

    The ANCYL wants the ANC to take on a much more "radical economic transformation programme".

    "[We are] using the national general council as a launch event for this radical economic transformation," Malema said.

    He again emphasised the importance of the Freedom Charter in formulating ANC policy.


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    http://www.sowetanlive.co.za/news/20...ivate-property

    ANC Youth League leader Julius Malema said on Thursday the ANC must change the property clause in the constitution because South Africa is no longer a negotiated democracy.
    He said the state should be allowed to expropriate privately owned land if it is in the interest of the majority of the people.
    Malema said the property clause is only in the constitution because it was a document negotiated as part of the 1994 settlement.
    He said government should take land no matter where it is, if it is in the public interest and he believes the state should determine what kind of compensation is paid.
    http://www.eyewitnessnews.co.za/arti....aspx?id=48134

    A settlement can only be a settlement if both sides abide by its terms. He also uses democrazy and communism interchangeably and as such is exactly what all those "paranoid" Afrikaner "racist's" feared would occur if the ANC had its way. The problem I see is a race from the stone age with a bearly developed sense of right and wrong who are going to try and take what they want.

    How people sit in front of their television and watch this BS go by without seeing their own doom approaching is beyond me. Also they released their crime statistics today and according to them murder is down by 8%, while farm murders did not “merit” its own statistic...

    This is genocide in the first degree, Malema is hell bent on becoming the next Stalin/Kaddafi/Mugabe, whatever he says puts these vermin in a frenzied state of lust and the Afrikaner has been presented to the mob much like the Tsar and Christians where in Russia leading up to their bloody revolution.
    Although the word "Commando" was wrongly used to describe all Boer soldiers, a commando was a unit formed from a particular district. None of the units was organized in regular companies, battalions or squadrons. The Boer commandos were individualists who were difficult to control, resented formal discipline or orders, and earned a British jibe that"every Boer was his own general".

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    Malema is the true embodiment of Mandela's vision of total black control. Mandela played the messiah to liberal whites, malema plays the messiah to anc blacks. The goal is the same, to make south africa a starving communist wasteland void of white civilisation. Then the gold and diamonds will be free for the taking for whomever owns the anc.

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    Our only salvation would be to get our own piece of land, however I can not see that happening under current political circumstances. The only options left would be civil war or mass white emigration. Mass emigration is also not feasible imo due to a host of factors including economic and political factors.

    We should wait for the political boiling point to be reached, however we can not sit still and do nothing! We should be preparing for the coming conflict by learning the skills of our ancestors, the skills to survive in a hostile environment and living in synergy with nature. We should buy weapons, learn how to make them and use them efficiently. A crossbow, bow and arrow or knife would be better than no weapons at all and could be used for hunting as well.

    BUT we should not only concern ourselves with preparing for war. We should also fight an intellectual war in the meantime. There would be no media willing to back us like the blacks had during Apartheid. We should create our own opportunities to reach the world whatever the medium. We should strive to get allies in our battle against the future of the Germanic and white race. Perhaps this could be the salvation of all white people as this would be a war which will make them sit upright and notice the threat they face themselves.

    We are a nation of warriors, some of the hardiest that history have ever seen. We proved it during the battle of Blood river where a boer laager with a handfull of men defeated 6000 Zulu impi's. Then again during the Anglo-Boer war where we fought against the entire British empire. We will do it again, hopefully for the last time...

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    State ownership of private land is not the issue here - Negro ownership of the state is the true issue here; as it is obvious what they are trying to achieve: Land-ownership is a Boer phenomenon, as such a non-Boer attempt to seize private land at will would mean redistribution to further detriment of the Boer.

    Then again, it shouldn't surprise anyone. I didn't need to read the article to know what was the deal: The name Julius Malema alone let me know what his target was. After all, it has been less than seven months since he urged to "Kill the Boer" --- racially motivated crimes that would get the UN (they were even faster to react on Rwanda, and that's got to mean something!) and all the newspapers around the world screaming "genocide" were it to take place in any other part of the world.

    Zimbabwean-style seizures of Boer-owned land combined with savage murders that most of us would link more with Stalin, Kim Jong-il or Pol Pot than to happen any supposedly civilised country. But, of course, those evil Afrikaners must have brought that upon themselves by their racist, racist reign of Apartheid (an evil regime de-constructed to a large part by the renowned friends of all nations, the Jews), right?

    Over a million white South Africans - whether of Boer/Afrikaner background, English background, German lineage, or other Germanic and otherwise European background have left the country in a hurry, oft citing racial violence and anti-white raciam as a reason. But 20% of a population fleeing their ancestors' homeland in which they have lived up to 500 years is not enough for the self-haters around the world to have their alarm bells ringing - as, after all, to them - "All the evil people in the world are White, except Mugabe."

    I'm just hoping that the point they realise that the ANC is copying Mugabe is not the point when all hope is lost, and certainly hope that it's not beyond the point of fighting a civil war against the odds of numbers of Negroes breeding new loyal denizens of hate in such a speed that even the rabbits would be envious. I feel for my ethnic brothers, and wished I knew how to help them beyond the support of my words, articles and columns.
    -In kalte Schatten versunken... /Germaniens Volk erstarrt / Gefroren von Lügen / In denen die Welt verharrt-
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimner View Post
    A settlement can only be a settlement if both sides abide by its terms. He also uses democrazy and communism interchangeably and as such is exactly what all those "paranoid" Afrikaner "racist's" feared would occur if the ANC had its way.
    Surprise, surprise...

    The problem I see is a race from the stone age with a bearly developed sense of right and wrong who are going to try and take what they want.
    It's flabbergasting and fascinating that people like Malema have learned absolutely nothing from the negative impact the expropriations which happened right over the border in Southern Rhodesia a few years ago had on the black people.

    How people sit in front of their television and watch this BS go by without seeing their own doom approaching is beyond me.
    True, but then again: What is Jan van der Merwe supposed to do? It would be up to the Afrikaner elites and opinion leaders to organize the people and to create an effective opposition. Most people would be in my view absolutely ready and willing to join.

    Organized and defending their racial interests, the Europeans in South Africa would actually be an extremely powerful and influential force. They could crush the whole economy by going collectively on strike. They could even literally starve the blacks to death if they so chose. In addition, most Boers are armed and the older generation still has precious first-hand war experience from Angola.

    So it would really be time to get organized: not by founding yet another uninfluential political party but rather by founding an all-encompassing ethnic lobby or interest group similar to the B'nai B'rith serving as an umbrella organization to promote the welfare of Afrikaners in general. From there, additional organizations and movements can be sparked. It would be in particular of utmost importance to organize the labor sector in its own union.

    What happened actually to the Afrikaner Broederbond? Was it subverted in its entirety and did it go de Klerk? That's exactly the type of organization which historically prepared the path to Afrikaner empowerment and which, with a somewhat renewed vision, would be needed today...

    Also they released their crime statistics today and according to them murder is down by 8%, while farm murders did not “merit” its own statistic...
    Surprise, surprise. They are allegedly not politically motivated in the first place.

    This is genocide in the first degree, Malema is hell bent on becoming the next Stalin/Kaddafi/Mugabe, whatever he says puts these vermin in a frenzied state of lust and the Afrikaner has been presented to the mob much like the Tsar and Christians where in Russia leading up to their bloody revolution.
    Unless he suffers a fate like Chris Hani ... or is necklaced or eaten by his comrades.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorburn View Post
    True, but then again: What is Jan van der Merwe supposed to do? It would be up to the Afrikaner elites and opinion leaders to organize the people and to create an effective opposition. Most people would be in my view absolutely ready and willing to join.
    Old Van by most accounts appears impotent at this point (or at least most urbanized part of Afrikaner society), I cannot stress how exceedingly multi-culturalized the Afrikaner has become over the past 30 years, especially since the fall of Apartheid. Individualism and false humanity has brought us to our knees, people appear to have nothing but contempt for their racial equals, and view any person voicing a legitimate argument with the same distrust that should be focused on the black government and the jews who made all this possible...

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorburn View Post
    Organized and defending their racial interests, the Europeans in South Africa would actually be an extremely powerful and influential force. They could crush the whole economy by going collectively on strike. They could even literally starve the blacks to death if they so chose. In addition, most Boers are armed and the older generation still has precious first-hand war experience from Angola.
    If the ANC could be forced to show their hand (so to speak) perhaps then these drones could be convinced, a huge part of Afrikaners are caught in a Christian psychosis and it will talk allot to spurn these stubborn protestants into action, "after all God does provide for them, doesn't he?"...

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorburn View Post
    So it would really be time to get organized: not by founding yet another uninfluential political party but rather by founding an all-encompassing ethnic lobby or interest group similar to the B'nai B'rith serving as an umbrella organization to promote the welfare of Afrikaners in general. From there, additional organizations and movements can be sparked. It would be in particular of utmost importance to organize the labor sector in its own union.
    This is what numerous old and new Afrikaner organizations are attempting to facilitate with the Volksraad Verkiesings Komisie with which they hope to Elect a body with the mandate you mentioned above, and to attempt to claim a homeland for the Afrikaner from UN. () Now they were hoping to register at least a million people but the time frame is closing fast and I doubt that they would reach that number, and again these are really seen as fringe activities by the broader Afrikaner public.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorburn View Post
    What happened actually to the Afrikaner Broederbond? Was it subverted in its entirety and did it go de Klerk? That's exactly the type of organization which historically prepared the path to Afrikaner empowerment and which, with a somewhat renewed vision, would be needed today...
    The Broederbond was largely subverted by capitalism/jews and responsible for the eventual collapse of the Afrikaner state. They also ensured that no Volkstaat would be established while we had the power to do so. But I agree we need new “influential” elite with their feet on the ground and a better understanding of the predicament we are all facing, then have been the case over the last 30 years.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorburn View Post
    Unless he suffers a fate like Chris Hani ... or is necklaced or eaten by his comrades.
    One can only hope...
    Although the word "Commando" was wrongly used to describe all Boer soldiers, a commando was a unit formed from a particular district. None of the units was organized in regular companies, battalions or squadrons. The Boer commandos were individualists who were difficult to control, resented formal discipline or orders, and earned a British jibe that"every Boer was his own general".

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    Julius Malema is just a tool of the ANC that they use to desensitize the mainstream ANC policy/ proposed policy. Their annual conference is comming up and obviously they are going to propose a few radical decisions that would be regarded not as extreme as the garbage that Malema is suggesting and it will then accepted as 'it could have been a lot worse'.
    Our problem in South Africa is not baboons like Malema and Mandela, but the liberal Afrikaners that revere Mandela as God and that wants to 'embrace the Rainbow Nation'. To them their heritage is not important and they will breed into something with a lightbrown skin and dodgy yellowgreen eyes.
    Thank God that not everybody thinks like that but sadly it has become politically incorrect (the worst crime in SA) to speak out against these spineless bastards. Look at the bad press that Dan Roodt is getting.
    These liberal Afrikaners were of the same stature than the ones that opted to stay in the Cape Colony under British Rule during the Great Trek and the ones that went on to fight for the English against the Germans.
    That my friends is our problem! I eagerly await any suggestions as to how to get rid of this cancer in our midths for if we do not deal with it, it will surely cause our untimely demise.

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    The current land reform program being carried out in SA is doomed to fail due to fact that there is a lack of government funds to buy white owned farms for land reform projects and yet they (the Department of Rural Development and Land Reform) are still planning to carry out more of them. Some of the land claims are outright ridiculous with certain claims amounting to the entire greater Bloemfontein area as well as one demanding the entire Free State province. No Bull, I am privy to this info

    Therefore it is no wonder that malema is seeking to obtain the legislative mandate to continue the PC sanctioned negro plunder and destruction of what the Germanic created in South Africa. What is more is that the Department of Rural Development and Land Reform are taking steps to map failed land reform projects and also to gather data on white/black owned land for the entire country. I wonder if these steps hold any relation to that castro envying ANCYL baboon's "revolutionary" antics...

    If the South African tax payers (who are predominantly white) didn't sit up and take notice that they are being held to ransom with the recent public service strike by a primitive negro bolshevik proletariat who only have jobs/welfare because of a ZOG contrived inflated public service (we have nine provincial administrations whilst we need only four in reality like in the good old days, this is the opinion of one of my professors) then they certainly will when Thabo and his buddies gets the go ahead from good old Julius to literally go ape sh!t on/with white property.

    I hope the bantus will have solace in the success of their "revolution" once they starve to death as a consequence of the resulting diminishing food security which is already decreasing (according to a leading academic in agricultural economics) seeing as every single porch monkey is allowed to play "emerging farmer" (as they are so lovingly referred to). This obviously gets me worked up seeing as I regularly deal with this in my work environment and I recently met someone who coincidentally used to be a neighbour of two of my uncles and has lost farms to land reform twice already and is still awaiting compensation for his most recently stolen farm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wikingsdonner View Post
    If the South African tax payers (who are predominantly white) didn't sit up and take notice that they are being held to ransom with the recent public service strike by a primitive negro bolshevik proletariat who only have jobs/welfare because of a ZOG contrived inflated public service (we have nine provincial administrations whilst we need only four in reality like in the good old days, this is the opinion of one of my professors) then they certainly will when Thabo and his buddies gets the go ahead from good old Julius to literally go ape sh!t on/with white property.|
    .

    Excellent assessment. Coincidently the government has just implemented a new 3% eco tax on every new car that produces more than 120 milligrams of CO2. With the quality fuel we use in SA not even a Toyota Pruis will be exempt, and to little astonishment taxi's are completely exempt. They are taxing us without giving us an alternative that is not eco tax that is just plain tax or mandatory wealth redistribution, and as the above assessment imply only their little gang will share in the spoils, further impoverishing the economically inactive black mob thus further fuelling their little revolution. This tax will amount to almost three percent on the SA new passenger and commercial vehicle market. They will be receiving a huge amount of money on top of their already blatantly inflated tax structures. This makes me twitch because this could enable them to have enough money to properly arm themselves before showing their hand.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wikingsdonner View Post
    I hope the bantus will have solace in the success of their "revolution" once they starve to death as a consequence of the resulting diminishing food security which is already decreasing (according to a leading academic in agricultural economics) seeing as every single porch monkey is allowed to play "emerging farmer" (as they are so lovingly referred to). This obviously gets me worked up seeing as I regularly deal with this in my work environment and I recently met someone who coincidentally used to be a neighbour of two of my uncles and has lost farms to land reform twice already and is still awaiting compensation for his most recently stolen farm.
    The real threat will be once the economy has been degraded enough and food does runs out. Remember some of these “humans” where still luncheon on human flesh as recently as the 1850, there is no limit to what they will be willing to do in their depravity, look at the congo and all those shitholes they literally machete anything alive with the most animalistic ferocity. Hopefully something can hasten the onset of whatever they are planning before they are able to properly organize themselves, remember they do have other goyem lending their “expertise” and as such this cannot be discounted. Everything that is happening especially the frequency in occurrences is pointing in the direction of some plan or structure they have decided to implement. Malema will not stop until South-Africa is called Azania...
    Although the word "Commando" was wrongly used to describe all Boer soldiers, a commando was a unit formed from a particular district. None of the units was organized in regular companies, battalions or squadrons. The Boer commandos were individualists who were difficult to control, resented formal discipline or orders, and earned a British jibe that"every Boer was his own general".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimner View Post
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    Excellent assessment. Coincidently the government has just implemented a new 3% eco tax on every new car that produces more than 120 milligrams of CO2. With the quality fuel we use in SA not even a Toyota Pruis will be exempt, and to little astonishment taxi's are completely exempt. They are taxing us without giving us an alternative that is not eco tax that is just plain tax or mandatory wealth redistribution, and as the above assessment imply only their little gang will share in the spoils, further impoverishing the economically inactive black mob thus further fuelling their little revolution. This tax will amount to almost three percent on the SA new passenger and commercial vehicle market. They will be receiving a huge amount of money on top of their already blatantly inflated tax structures. This makes me twitch because this could enable them to have enough money to properly arm themselves before showing their hand.
    Yes, that is my take on this 'eco' tax as well. Our issue would not be with the higher income blacks because they will feel the economic downfall themselves. The issue lies with the impoverished black mob, they see what the white man has built up and they want in. If they will kill for R20 imagine what they would do for a car, house or farm. As stated before, I do not have much faith in Siener v Rensburg, but what if this is the bucket of blood he saw tipping over before whites rules again? The real hurdle we would have to overcome is weapons, not a pistol or hunting rifle but real weapons- assault rifles, grenades and the like. There will be no Germany supplying us with Mausers during this round.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grimner View Post
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    The real threat will be once the economy has been degraded enough and food does runs out. Remember some of these “humans” where still luncheon on human flesh as recently as the 1850, there is no limit to what they will be willing to do in their depravity, look at the congo and all those shitholes they literally machete anything alive with the most animalistic ferocity. Hopefully something can hasten the onset of whatever they are planning before they are able to properly organize themselves, remember they do have other goyem lending their “expertise” and as such this cannot be discounted. Everything that is happening especially the frequency in occurrences is pointing in the direction of some plan or structure they have decided to implement. Malema will not stop until South-Africa is called Azania...
    This reminds me of Apocolypto, the measures to which people would go in desperate times. The lower the IQ the higher the agression level in a beast. We would be overwhelmed like Retief at Dingane's kraal. They have not changed much since then. They will deceive you into thinking that they are your ally, all the while they are feasting with you while waiting their chance to slaughter you. You just have to look at our history during the Great Trek and the wars following English settlement of Eastern Cape during the early-mid 1800's to get a taste of what is in store for us. They are a primitive people incapable of grasping the concept of civilization. They enjoy the benefits but refuse to commit themselves to the Western way of life. Our cultures is far too different to ever live in harmony.

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