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    The Curious Case of Bees Roux...


    Bees Roux Granted Bail

    A Blue Bulls rugby player was granted R100,000 bail by the Pretoria District Court on Monday after he allegedly beat a metro policeman to death.

    Jacobus Stephanus "Bees" Roux spent the weekend in jail after he was arrested on Friday following the murder of Tshwane metro police officer Ntshimane Johannes Mogale, 38.

    He intended pleading not guilty to charges of murder and driving under the influence of alcohol, the court heard. The matter was postponed to October 15.

    Wearing a grey jersey, Roux stood in the dock with his hands clenched.

    The courtroom was packed with Tshwane metro policemen, some of whom had to sit on the floor.

    Roux's defence counsel asked for bail of R5000.

    Defence lawyer Rudi Krause said Roux was a final-year student at the University of South Africa (Unisa), studying property evaluation.

    He would plead not guilty to any of the charges.

    What really happened?

    It emerged on Monday that Roux's credit card was used at a McDonald's fast food outlet at the time he was supposed to have been in custody.

    Krause said Roux's blood and alcohol levels were not tested and he denied he was drunk.

    "The accused acted in self-defence as there was an attempted theft and/or robbery by the metro cops," Krause said. "It is sinister that the two other metro officers did not witness the incident."

    Roux was arrested in the early hours on Friday. Mogale's body was found lying in Schoeman Street, Pretoria, with head injuries at 3am on Friday. He had reportedly earlier pulled Roux over for suspected drunk driving.

    "I have no intention to live the life of a fugitive," Roux told Magistrate Desmond Nair in support of his bail bid.

    Defence attorney Rudi Krause told the court Roux had no previous convictions and was not a flight risk.

    "There is also evidence that the accused told people on the scene to call police. All eye-witness statements have been obtained and the accused cannot interfere with the remaining investigation," Chief Prosecutor Matric Luphondo said.

    However, the State asked for bail of R20,000 because of the nature of the crime.

    Nair pointed out that Roux was accused of a Schedule Six offence and not Schedule Five, because a law enforcement officer was involved. According to Schedule Six of the Criminal Procedure Act an accused can only be granted bail if they show "exceptional circumstances" exist to do so.

    In setting the bail amount, Nair said the court could not ignore the fact that the accused had the means and the funds to travel overseas and that he done so in the past.

    According to an affidavit from Roux, he had previously travelled to Ireland, France and Australia to play rugby. He also had a bank account in France containing 5000 euros as he had played there for three months in 2008.

    His annual income was around R850,000.

    In court, Mohale's family sat weeping after Kraus's revelation about the credit card.

    Mohale's family and friends chanted and sang outside court. Times LIVE reports that some carried placards, one of which read: "How can you kill an innocent man ... or is it because he is a kaffer?"
    http://news.za.msn.com/gallery.aspx?...ntid=154544738

    Was Bees Roux Being Blackmailed?

    An Afrikaans newspaper reports that murder accused Blue Bull Bees Roux may have landed in the hands of blackmailers in the metro police following an evening at a strip club.

    The Beeld daily claims that Roux may have been the victim of a common operation, whereby metro police pounce on members of the public leaving the Flamingo club in Church Street in order to rob them.

    The paper quotes the owner of the club, one Pieter Crous, as saying that it is a regular occurance and that the police threaten to arrest clients of the club for drunk driving unless they pay a bribe.

    Crous claims that a dancer at his club confirmed that Roux had been there in the early hours of the morning.

    The Tshwane metro police have launched an inquiry into Mohale and his two colleagues, apparantly the fourth inquiry into Mohale's conduct in recent times.

    Previous and ongoing cases against Mohale, none of which have been concluded, include accusations of theft and disorderly conduct in 2007, dereliction of duty in 2008 and gross negligence while bringing the municipality into disrepute, also in 2008.
    http://news.za.msn.com/article.aspx?...ntid=154562391
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    Ek hou veral van die stukkie waarheid wat op die plakaat geskribbel was. Ironies genoeg het die slagoffer se broer (wat 'n totale ander van het ) Bees gedreig met " Jou f****n hond, ek sal jou ma kry" na afloop van die hofgeding.
    Ek dink wat hier gebeur het is dat die metropolisiemanne wou gou 'n bietjie geld maak en het voor Lolly se joint of soortgelyk(baie evil maar somtyds draai 'n man maar vinnig daar) gesit en wag vir iemand om af te dreig.
    Bees en sy pel het uitgeloop en die stupid metros het spiere met vet verwar en toe vir Bees geteiken. 'n Ooreenkoms is bereik en die metros is daar weg maar die oorledene sou Bees se kar huistoe bestuur het om nog meer te aas en tydens die rit het Bees sy humeur verloor en die klong getugtig.*


    *Enige ooreenkoms met die werkilikheid is bloot fiktief

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    Yes it is difficult to predict what the outcome of this case would be. If it is to be a fair trial he should be aquited of any charges. Firstly they did not follow procedures by not arresting him, there is current investigations pending the deceased and he drove in the wrong direction. If he was taking him home why didn't the police vehicle follow the accused's vehicle and how was his credit card fraudulently used shortly after the attack. Another question is where were they(the other officers) during the attack and why was his blood alcohol level not tested? It is also easy to make accusations that he was 'very drunk' but meanwhile there is no test results to back their claim. He could simply have been shocked. On the other hand the deceased was a Metro officer and is unfortunately above suspicion and then he is black to boot. However seen in the light of how many Metro officers had been involved in hijackings and other violent crimes in the past I would probably have done the same as Bees did. I would also not be surprised if this had indeed been a hijacking. So it goes in this country where criminals enjoy more rights than law-abiding citizens, more than often the victim ends in jail while the criminal is made to be a hero.

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    Die skuim wat vir Eugene Terreblanche vermoor het, moes net R 10 000 borg betaal het. Beteken dit die howe plaas 'n groter waarde op 'n swart vel? Indien iemand vir dronkbestuur afgetrek word, moet daardie persoon vir alkohol getoets en dan direk na die polisiestasie geneem word. Dit is hoogs verdag dat daar nie vinger verwys word na die polisie wat hulle eie prosedures verontagsaam het nie.

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    Pretoria - Die Tshwane-metropolisie gaan die Blou Bul-stut Bees Roux teister totdat hy die waarheid vertel.

    Dir. Ndumiso Jaca, hoof van proaktiewe polisiëring by die metropolisie, het Donderdag tydens sers. Ntshimane Johannes Mogale (38) se roudiens in Pretoria gesê hulle “gaan seker maak dat Bees nie rus nie”.

    “Ons gaan padblokkades beman en seker maak dat Bees nie rus nie. Ons gaan ons voorvaders kry om Bees te teister totdat hy die waarheid vertel.”

    Margaret Mogale het tydens die roudiens die heeltyd oor haar man gehuil. Die egpaar se kinders, Thato (16), Boitshepo (10) en Oreabetswe (3), het ook die diens bygewoon.

    Mogale sal môre in Shakung, noordwes van Pretoria, begrawe word nadat hy verlede Vrydag*oggend doodgeslaan is.

    Dikeledi Lehobye, burgemeesterskomiteelid vir gemeenskapsveiligheid in Tshwane, het gesê: “Vir ’n persoon om met kaal hande vermoor te word, op ’n teerpad, is pynlik, onmenslik, sinneloos en barbaars.

    “Geen mens, nie eens ’n dier, verdien om só dood te gaan nie.”

    Roux is weens Mogale se moord in hegtenis geneem.

    Voor die voorval waarin Mogale dood is, het hy en twee kollegas Roux weens dronkbestuur van die pad afgetrek.

    Volgens Jaca het Mogale in Roux se motor geklim om hom huis toe te neem.

    “Wie gee om dat Mogale Roux se motor bestuur het?” het Jaca gevra.

    “As wetstoepassers is ons elke dag op die pad, waartydens ons ons verstand en oordeel moet gebruik.

    “Ek het al verskeie dronkbestuurders in hegtenis geneem. Ek het ook al ’n dronk motoris afgetrek wat vir my vertel hoe sy vrou vermoor of sy kinders verkrag is. Dan besluit ek om die man ’n kans te gee en hom huis toe te neem. Dit is die menslikheid wat daar in ’n wetstoepasser is.”

    Oor die feit dat die ander twee metropolisielede nie op die toneel was toe Mogale doodgeslaan is nie, het Jaca gesê mense kan nie oordeel nie.


    Div gekap oor steun


    “Toe die Springbokke aangekondig het hulle is 100% agter Bees Roux, het ek gebewe.”

    Só het dir. Moloko Racheku, streekdirekteur van die Tshwane-metropolisie, Donderdag by die roudiens van sers. Ntshimane Johannes Mogale (38). gesê. Hy is verlede Vrydagoggend na bewering deur Roux, ’n Blou Bul-stut, doodgeslaan.

    Racheku het verwys na Peter de Villiers, Bok-afrigter, se uitspraak vroeër vandeesweek dat hulle Roux ten volle steun, hoewel hulle nie die daad ondersteun waarvan hy beskuldig word nie.

    De Villiers het gesê: “Die span ondersteun... nie die daad nie, maar hoe dit tot daar gekom het.”

    Racheku het gesê ’n mens kan van De Villiers se stelling aflei dat die Springbokke iets van die voorval weet wat die res van die publiek nie weet nie. Hy wil weet wat dít is.

    “Die Springbokke is ’n nasionale span,” het Racheku gesê.

    “Ek en my seun is ondersteuners van die Springbokke. Net so was Mogale en sy seun ondersteuners van die Springbokke.

    “Mogale is daarop geregtig dat die Springbokke hom moet ondersteun.”

    Dir. Ndumiso Jaca, hoof van proaktiewe polisiëring by die Tshwane-metropolisie, het gesê hy veroordeel De Villiers se stelling ten sterkste.


    - Die Burger

    "How can you kill an innocent man ... or is it because he is a kaffer?"
    In my oë word hierdie weer opgeblaas tot 'n rassistiese insident. Bees se vrees om gekaap te word was gegrond gesien in die lig van die misdaad situasie in Johannesburg& omliggende areas. My bloed kook om goed soos die so vroeg in die more te moet lees...

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    Mad Cop:Let's hound Bees

    Pretoria - Ancestors will be called on to haunt the alleged murderer of Johannes Mtshumane Mogale, executive director of policing Ndumiso Jaca said at the memorial service in Pretoria on Thursday.

    Addressing a packed gathering of family members and fellow metro police officers, Jaca said Blue Bulls rugby player - Bees Roux - arrested for Mogale's murder - "would not rest".

    "Let's call on the fallen members of the department to go and man the road blocks and ensure Bees doesn't rest."

    Roux was arrested last Friday after he had allegedly been pulled over by Mogale for drunken driving.

    Shortly after, Mogale's beaten body was found by two other patrol officers.

    "Let's call on our ancestors, lets ensure we hound Bees until he tells the truth," he said to angry shouts of agreement.

    'Bees is a monster'

    "Bees is a monster, he is a beast murdering my member with his own hands. He's huge, he's a monster," said Jaca.

    Speaking later, municipal mayoral commissioner Dikeledi Lehobye said it was painful to imagine that a person could be "murdered with bare hands, on the hard surface of the tarmac".

    She agreed that the murder was diabolical and barbaric.

    "I have to admit that I am deeply touched by this incident and very, very angry. I am angry at behaviour worse than that of wild animals."

    However, Lehobye appealed to officers to let the law run its course.

    "Out of respect for the family, wife and children let us desist from making careless and hurtful speculation."

    Throughout the memorial service Mogale's wife, Margarette, softly cried into a white and reddish handkerchief with a relative sitting next to her, never taking her arm off the grieving widow's shoulder.


    - SAPA
    I am angry, how can this case make headlines day after day?! There are white people attacked in their homes, they get robbed, the women get raped and the men are shot. These cases do not make headlines! Make a hero out of a criminal, a villain out of a victim- that is our country's creed. I am real angry, really, really angry, perhaps I should stop typing now...

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    Another mystery were aired yesterday in the case of Bees Roux. He never went to a stripclub as believed. The security tapes were studied and Bees definitely did not visit the club. I smell a cover-up here! It seems to me as if it had indeed been a hijack! Now they moved his case from a schedule 5 to a schedule 6 as it was a Police officer he had killed. If you ask me it has more to do with the fact that it was a black he had killed. I'm just wondering what the bail would have been if a Black guy killed a White cop. If you are white you can not expect to have a fair trial in this country! The report is unfortunately in Afrikaans but I will see if I could find the time to translate it today.

    Die tergende raaisel rondom die moordsaak teen die Blou Bul-stut Bees Roux het gister verder verdiep.

    Daar is nog baie vrae oor wat presies die aand van die dood van sers. Johannes Mogale (38) van die Tshwane-metropolisie gebeur het – en ook oor Roux se bewegings dié aand.

    Mnr. James Adams, Roux se agent, het teenoor Rapport ontken dat Roux voor die voorval verlede Vrydag in die ontkleeklub Flamingo’s gekuier het, soos vroeër berig is.

    Mnr. Pieter Crous, eienaar van Flamingo’s, het dit ook ontken. Hy het aan Rapport gesê verskeie mense het nou al die beeldmateriaal van die klub se veiligheidskameras bestudeer.

    “Hy is nie op die beeldmateriaal nie. Die enigste manier waarop hy kon inkom sonder dat hy op die beeldmateriaal is, is as hy deur die dak geval het.”

    Volgens Crous het ’n danseres wel gesê sy het “iemand wat soos Bees lyk” gesien, maar dié man het tatoeëermerke wat Roux nie het nie.

    Die polisie moet ook nog ondersoek wie na bewering Roux se kredietkaart by ’n McDonald’s-restaurant gebruik het terwyl hy in die polisieselle was.

    Sers. Patrick Mafanele van die ondersoekspan het die afgelope week in die Pretoriase landdroshof getuig luidens verklarings in die Roux-dossier is hy in Hatfield, Pretoria, afgetrek omdat hy vermoedelik dronk bestuur het. Mafanele het egter toegegee dat geen bloedtoetse óf blaaspypietoetse op Roux gedoen is nie.

    Die hof het gehoor Roux het tydens die beweerde aanranding op Mogale vir omstanders geskree hulle moet die polisie bel. Roux beweer hy was die slagoffer van diefstal of roof en het uit selfverdediging opgetree.

    Mogale het op die toneel aan sy wonde beswyk en die polisie het Roux kort daarna op die toneel gearresteer. Roux is na die Sunnyside-polisiekantoor geneem en die naweek daar aangehou, maar steeds is geen bloedtoetse gedoen nie.

    “Luidens die getuienis is geen toetse gedoen nie omdat die SAPD nie geweet het daar is ’n bewering van dronkbestuur nie,” het brig. Mahlomola Man*gan*ye, bevelvoerder van die polisiekantoor, aan Rapport gesê.

    Mnr. Console Tleane het namens die Tshwane-metropolisie gesê die “hof is in die beste posisie om te besluit waarom daar geen toetse gedoen is nie”.

    Hy het gesê ’n gebrek aan bloedtoetse beteken nie daar is geen bewyse teen Roux met betrekking tot die dronkbestuurklag nie. Hooflanddros Desmond Nair het nog ’n leemte in die voorlopige feite uitgelig deur te sê die twee ander metropolisie*beamptes wat Roux saam met Mogale afgetrek het, is nog nie ten volle betrek nie.

    Mafanele het getuig hy hét die beamptes opgesoek, maar dat hulle nie antwoorde kon verskaf nie omdat hulle glo “niks” gesien het nie.

    * Dr. Gwen Ramokgopa, uitvoerende burgemeester van Tshwane, het gister by Mogale se begrafnis by sy huis in die dorpie Shakung in Noordwes gevra dat mense die saak in die howe se hande laat.

    Dít nadat dir. Ndumiso Jaca, hoof van proaktiewe polisiëring in die Tshwane-metropolisie, Donderdag tydens die gedenkdiens vir Mogale teen Roux en die media uitgevaar het.

    Ds. J. Makole het aan die honderde roubeklaers, onder wie verskeie politieke leiers en minstens 100 metropolisiebeamptes, gesê: “Satan gebruik mense om sy werk te doen, en in dié geval het hy ’n man, Bees, gebruik.”

    -Rapport

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    Wikipedia writes , that he paid money and could walk free .

    750'000 Rand had been how much in Dollars, BPounds, Euro, CHFrank at that time ?

    Following an incident in August 2010, Roux was charged with the culpable homicide of police officer Sergeant Ntshimane Johannes Mogale.
    As a result of a plea bargain agreement, Roux was given a five-year prison sentence in September 2011,
    suspended on the condition that he paid R750 000 to the widow of the police officer.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bees_Roux
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