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Thread: Are Pontids White/Europid?

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    Are Pontids White/Europid?

    Pontids and Nordpontids, are they White/Europid?

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    What is that a question?

    Of course, 1000%. They are a border race, which means between dinarid and mediteranid. Not sure if they are stabilized and when what is to discuss then.

    Majorly in Romania/ East Europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erbe View Post
    What is that a question?

    Of course, 1000%. They are a border race, which means between dinarid and mediteranid. Not sure if they are stabilized and when what is to discuss then.

    Majorly in Romania/ East Europe.
    According to Wikipedia the Pontid race include the Adygs, the Abkhaz, and other Central Asians.


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    That depends of your definition of white and yes they are Caucasoid.

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    would this be a good example of a Pontid?



    That's an Adyghe lady.

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    Well Forest King i don't think she fits clearly in this race in. When yes where is she from?

    The best anthropologist here on the forum also stated pontids are naturally located in Romania and Bulgaria. In Romania i remember they are the major subrace.

    I like the fact that the woman of pontids are beautifull. In all they seem to have gotten more mediteranid features.

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    They are by definition a Europid subrace - Europid as a scientific term transcending Europe BTW, and also including Irano-Afghanid, Berberid, and yes Armenoid and Orientalid.

    Whether they are White - that is a distinction to be drawn by the observer. There are so many different definitions of "White" that it is difficult to say. Some are very permissive and view the Lebanese as "White" whilst some others are very restrictive and even include most Southern Italians from that term.

    I personally make a distinction between "perceived, subjective Whiteness" and "scientific, objective Whiteness". The former would generally include to me no more than the general Central/Northern European spectrum of subraces and those belonging to them in other parts of the world, and much of the rest I consider as looking a little "offish". The latter would be synonymous with Europid/Caucasoid and be the prime reason for me not to identify with that term.

    I am Germanic, by extension a North/Central European so anything that asks me to identify as "White" here in the Old World is not getting my signed approval. I think we can do better than defining ourselves by such an ambiguous term.
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    I read on another forum that they are in some way related to the Atlantids. Some do appear Atlantid, and some are even harmonious in terms of their facial features. Is it accurate to say that Pontids are pretty much "Eastern Atlantids" with broader, possibly more Dinaroid/Armenoid features? Anyway, that's what I look for when classifying someone as such.

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    Pontids are usually thought of as Black Sea Atlanto-Mediterraneans though there are other elements in them. They indeed are in an Alpine/Dinaric direction also. The Adyghe are prototypical but also the eastern Romanians etc.

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