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    Quote Originally Posted by Bedford Brown View Post
    The UN was created for uniting white Europe, and it will happen..
    I presume you mean the EU, but that was never the purpose of the EU. The most important inspirator of the EU was Richard Nikolaus von Coudenhove-Kalergi whose vision of the future included the requirement to mix all races.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bedford Brown View Post
    ...we only have one choise...We hang together, or we will hang seperate...
    The same tactic Jews employ against us Goyim.

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    I wouldn't mind a Germanic union of some sort (though preferably including more countries than just the four the thread starter mentioned), but then the parts of the union should have very high autonomy. I may be similar to other Germanic people, but we are not the same thing. Hel, I don't even acknowledge "Swede" as a good designation for my ethnicity - I'm a Sweon, different from the other tribes (Geats, Gotlanders, Scanians, etc) in Sweden.

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    The only thing what an average german shares with an swede is Ikea. The typical german has no german culture nor any kind of culture at all. That is what they share with mostly all western countries and what makes a "nordic nation" not appropriate at the moment.

    Speaking for myself i appreciate cultural and economical cooperation with scandinavia:
    I look forward to see some great music here
    http://www.folkbaltica.de/termine.html
    That is the kind of cooperation i prefer.

    Best regards

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    Recent article by the futurist Joel Kotkin:

    http://www.joelkotkin.com/content/00318-new-world-order

    For centuries we have used maps to delineate borders that have been defined by politics. But it may be time to chuck many of our notions about how humanity organizes itself. Across the world a resurgence of tribal ties is creating more complex global alliances. Where once diplomacy defined borders, now history, race, ethnicity, religion, and culture are dividing humanity into dynamic new groupings.
    1. New Hansa
    Denmark, Finland, Germany, Netherlands, Norway, Sweden

    In the 13th century, an alliance of Northern European towns called the Hanseatic League created what historian Fernand Braudel called a “common civilization created by trading.” Today’s expanded list of Hansa states share Germanic cultural roots...

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    No thank you. Didnt work out well in the old Kalmar days, and wont work now either. Just a "small" merging like SAS, which should have been relativly easy and practical, turned out to be a byrocratic nightmare. Try to implant this on the "Kalmar" scenario and you will know what will happen.

    Beside this, lets say that we miraculously managed to get by with all the obstacles around finance, law, taxmoney, capital etc. You still would have the problem with all the other jealous institutions like the EU, the US, the EU partnership, Schengen, UN and so forth. They would all become scared by our "different opinions" and actual free speach, which actually would have a major voice on the world stage. This wont be allowed to happen, and we would be sanctioned econimically. Say what you will, but people dont tend to want less.

    3rd point is that we dont have the same connection as earlier in history. We have party cooperation along party lines, we are exposed to much of the same from culture and religion, but I think we have lost the solidarity connection we had in the post ww2 era. If our solidarity was the same as it used to be, im sure we would have bailed the icelanders out earlier. Addition to this, im sure we would attract all kinds of oppurtunists we dont have today. The unwanted power hungry kind

    To grow large isnt always the best defence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norrøn View Post
    No thank you. Didnt work out well in the old Kalmar days, and wont work now either. Just a "small" merging like SAS, which should have been relativly easy and practical, turned out to be a byrocratic nightmare. Try to implant this on the "Kalmar" scenario and you will know what will happen.

    Beside this, lets say that we miraculously managed to get by with all the obstacles around finance, law, taxmoney, capital etc. You still would have the problem with all the other jealous institutions like the EU, the US, the EU partnership, Schengen, UN and so forth. They would all become scared by our "different opinions" and actual free speach, which actually would have a major voice on the world stage. This wont be allowed to happen, and we would be sanctioned econimically. Say what you will, but people dont tend to want less.

    3rd point is that we dont have the same connection as earlier in history. We have party cooperation along party lines, we are exposed to much of the same from culture and religion, but I think we have lost the solidarity connection we had in the post ww2 era. If our solidarity was the same as it used to be, im sure we would have bailed the icelanders out earlier. Addition to this, im sure we would attract all kinds of oppurtunists we dont have today. The unwanted power hungry kind

    To grow large isnt always the best defence.
    Easy to see happen. EU fractures in two, club Med goes it's way with a latin Euro, and the northern states with a teutonic Euro governed out of Frankfurt. The twin pillars of debt collapse and resource constraints (peak oil) see a complete lack of other people's money available for the progressives to throw around, nevermind the fact that economic pressures will force social/racial cohesion on all economies. The feedback loop is almost instantaneous, economies that move to a situation of homogenity survive, those that don't-Balkanize into civil war type conflicts or at the very least widespread anarchy and chaos.

    Twenty-three years ago if somebody said the Berlin Wall would be irrelevant the year after, we'd all be like WTF???

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    I like the Scandinavian countries very much but we are different branches of the old Germanic tribes: Germany is West-Germanic and Scandinavia North-Germanic so I don´t think it would be a good idea to unite all of us under one rule. Scandinavian culture is a little bit different to West-Germanic culture and so is the language.

    Well, I would prefer to unite the Bajuvarian branch of the Germanic tribes into one nation instead. The same could be done to the Alemannic tribes.

    The red area in the following map would be the Greater Bavarian state with all Bavarian territories united (Altbayern, Südtirol and Austria without Vorarlberg).

    The green area would be the Greater Alemannic state with all Alemannic territories united (Schwaben, Baden, Vorarlberg and the German-speaking areas of Switzerland).



    Red: Greater Bavaria
    Green: Greater Alemannia

    These two countries could also even merge into one to create the strongest and wealthiest area on the European continent, the "Alpine Republic" or the "Upper German Republic".

    But the best idea, of course, would be to reunite Austria, Südtirol and maybe the German-speaking parts of Switzerland with Germany.

    "Judge of your natural character by what you do in your dreams" - Ralph Waldo Emerson

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thusnelda View Post
    I like the Scandinavian countries very much but we are different branches of the old Germanic tribes: Germany is West-Germanic and Scandinavia North-Germanic so I don´t think it would be a good idea to unite all of us under one rule. Scandinavian culture is a little bit different to West-Germanic culture and so is the language.

    Well, I would prefer to unite the Bajuvarian branch of the Germanic tribes into one nation instead. The same could be done to the Alemannic tribes.

    The red area in the following map would be the Greater Bavarian state with all Bavarian territories united (Altbayern, Südtirol and Austria without Vorarlberg).

    The green area would be the Greater Alemannic state with all Alemannic territories united (Schwaben, Baden, Vorarlberg and the German-speaking areas of Switzerland).



    Red: Greater Bavaria
    Green: Greater Alemannia

    These two countries could also even merge into one to create the strongest and wealthiest area on the European continent, the "Alpine Republic" or the "Upper German Republic".

    But the best idea, of course, would be to reunite Austria, Südtirol and maybe the German-speaking parts of Switzerland with Germany.
    Weißwurstäquator!

    http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wei%C3%9Fwurst%C3%A4quator

    I think the author of the piece I linked to was merely throwing out examples of possible pairings, and it is the same cultural 'temperment' which would see the 'germanic' states of Europe in a new Hansa, complete with a teutonic Euro, more so than precise cultural differences. Prudent, rational, productive, as opposed to the Med states which are the exact opposite.

    No doubt Bavaria has a lot going for it. Between it and Switzerland there has to be a good percentage of the world's 'real' capital. Mittelstand in Bavaria with all it's industrial/engineered processes, and the capital buried throughout Swiss with half the world's gold refiners, the important ones anyways, and the only longstanding offshore jurisdiction of any kind of repute. I suppose Bregrenz, or Kreuzlingen/Konstanz would be the Hauptstadt-that would be pretty cool. Or maybe even Neuschwanstein...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ælfrun View Post
    LOL!
    Indeed.

    But it is true. They do not have really much in common. That refers not to any member on this board.

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