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    Germanics & the Megaliths

    I'm wondering what you people think. Should we (germanic peoples) associate ourselves with the ancient european megaliths, megalithic cultures or people? Did germanic or even indo-european peoples have anything to do with them or did we inherit them from another people from another time?


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    The European Megalithic Culture was almost certainly Germanic. Read the works of the archaeologist Jurgen Spanuth, or the compilation of ancient legends known as the Oera Linda Book. Note also the location of Doggerland as the geographical centre of the Megalithic Culture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oski View Post
    I'm wondering what you people think. Should we (germanic peoples) associate ourselves with the ancient european megaliths, megalithic cultures or people?
    No.


    Quote Originally Posted by Oski View Post
    Did germanic or even indo-european peoples have anything to do with them or did we inherit them from another people from another time?
    Those are not Germanic, they are of Upper Paleolithic origin.

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    Germanic people might be of Indo-European culture, but not all of us are of Indo-European blood.

    I would say that there's a significant probability that the cousins of the Indo-European people, that are commonly referred to as paleo-Europeans or Upper Paleolithic peoples, interbred into the populations that become the Germanics, and for that reason they could be said to be a part of our history.

    Personally, I feel little connection on the cultural or spiritual level with the sedentary hunter-gatherers and farmers responsible for the things, but I can't deny a genetic connection to them.
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    The Megalithic culture is one aspect of the Germanic formation, not the most important, but one among others.

    I don't think it was Indo-European, in fact I don't know of any serious author doing so.

    They were just one of those waves, this time from the West, which brought new and more progressive racial and cultural elements to the North.

    The Germanic people were the result of the Mesolithic people, all those waves coming and the Indo-European colonisation uniting them under one ethnocultural identity = Germanic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agrippa View Post
    The Megalithic culture is one aspect of the Germanic formation, not the most important, but one among others.

    I don't think it was Indo-European, in fact I don't know of any serious author doing so.

    They were just one of those waves, this time from the West, which brought new and more progressive racial and cultural elements to the North.

    The Germanic people were the result of the Mesolithic people, all those waves coming and the Indo-European colonisation uniting them under one ethnocultural identity = Germanic.
    Okay. Do you think this wave is more connected to one european ethnicity than others. I understand they predate the formation of these ethnicities and when these divides happened each ethnicity took their own take on them (ogham, spiral carvings, circles for celts, runestones & boat graves for germanics, totems for slavs etc.) but does this lead to a pan-european type of nationalism that we should avoid or embrace? Which existing language family has the most megaliths within their borders?

    Slavs:



    Basques:



    Germanics:
    http://img843.imageshack.us/i/dsc07990rokrunsten.jpg/



    Isles:



    Armenia & Thracia:


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    The British Isles has something like 8000 stone circles, while the number of true stone circles in Europe is tiny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oski View Post
    Okay. Do you think this wave is more connected to one european ethnicity than others.
    Well, they might have been more related to what we call from the genetic perspective the "Atlantic Facade" in my opinion.

    So it is an essentially more "Western" connection.

    Racially rather diverse, it had mostly progressive racial elements from Atlantomediterranid-Nordid-Dalofaelid/Cromagnid.

    but does this lead to a pan-european type of nationalism that we should avoid or embrace?
    Two problems here:
    - Paneuropean being often used primarily from people which feel related to Coudenhove-Kalergi, which writings are quite interesting, but his approach is totally different from what any racially aware people should want, European oriented or not.

    - Natonalism being always based on - by definition - a nation. So there is not even some sort of "Germanic nationalism", but only Pangermanism, a Germanic consciousness, common interests, related people and the like.

    If there is no nation, to call that Nationalism makes little sense to me.

    Also there are more European elements which unite Europeans than just the Megalithic culture, it starts with the Mesolithic populations, the specific Neolithic cultures, the Indo-Europeans as the most important element probably, occidental culture from Antiquity to modernity including Christian cultural elements and the like.

    From genetics to culture, Europeans being united by many bonds - but obviously differences are there as well, now probably more than then, from the racial perspective at least, since progressive leptodolichomorphs (Nordoid and Mediterranoid) began to dominate huge regions at that time...

    Anyway, I think it might be wrong to both ignore the differences as well as to overestimate them inside of Europe and currently, from a political perspective, it is absolutely clear that a European movement of different nationalist and racially aware, as well as Anticapitalist groups is absolutely necessary, because otherwise the fate of nations like the English and French is absolutely fixed - others will follow and become a bastard-mass under plutocratic rule.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rev. Jupiter View Post
    Germanic people might be of Indo-European culture, but not all of us are of Indo-European blood.
    That is correct, plenty of European populations may be European but are not of Indo-European blood. Though, in the case of Upper Paleolithics since there is no Upper Paleolithic population just remnants even the most Upper Paloelithic oriented individual in Europe is going to have some amount of Indo-European blood.

    In the British Isles for example the mixture between Indo-Europeans and Upper Paleolithics is pretty common.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agrippa View Post
    Racially rather diverse, it had mostly progressive racial elements from Atlantomediterranid-Nordid-Dalofaelid/Cromagnid.

    Racially diverse?You got that right.-Immigrant Bronze Age archer
    may have built Stonehenge-

    http://www.zateev.net/ontarget/bodie...ge_archer.html


    I know this is old news but still rather interesting.Also I'd like to ask if
    anybody knows if this articles information below is based on fact.Maybe one
    of you native Germans live near one of these digs and can shed some
    light on what I find to be a very intriguing subject.

    http://www.aislingmagazine.com/aisli...inGermany.html

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