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    Question Designing 'Mecha' Technology

    I've been a fan of mecha cartoons since I was 8 years old, and I have since wondered if humans could ever achieve mecha technology of a sort that is seen in shows like Gundam, Gurren Lagann, Robotech, etc....

    It doesn't seem too outlandish to me, I've had some thoughts on the possible assemblies of a mecha that were inspired by my experience working in the construction field.

    For arms/legs one could use a similar construction that is used for booms on an excavator, the cockpit being modeled after the cab of a bobcat all armor plated with the same armor on modern tanks, visibility being achieved with a similar technology used on those rear view cams on some types of cars/suv's.

    Perhaps I need to lay off the sauce?

    Anyone else think such a thing is possible? Or not?

    Here's an unfinished sketch of my excavator based mecha. The exposed joints and hydraulic assemblies can be covered with military grade armor, along with the rest of the assembly. The arms would consist of excavator booms modified to fit on the back with a swivel shoulder that is moved by a series of hydraulic arms. I'm still working on a lower torso and legs. In regards to hands, I'm still working that out as well. Perhaps no hands, just weapons mounted to hydraulic arms.



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    A fellow on ABF directed me to this video:

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...9084715476228#

    Sweetness

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    Updated sketch: basically a combo of an excavator and that Finnish log harvester with a battleship cannon. I have yet to put a hand on the excavator boom, still thinking on that, and I'm still thinking on what to do for possible feet.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cadwallon View Post
    I've been a fan of mecha cartoons since I was 8 years old, and I have since wondered if humans could ever achieve mecha technology of a sort that is seen in shows like Gundam, Gurren Lagann, Robotech, etc....
    Yeah Robotech was pretty cool, and unlike the Transformers it actually had a half ass story line.

    As far as it being achievable that is a different story. In Robotech the technology was reverse engineered from the SDF1 Crashed Space Craft.

    So it was humans reverse engineering the Mecha Tech to fight the aliens.

    I would say that with current material science we do not have materials strong enough to actually build a real life mecha.

    I mean you need materials that are very thin and much stronger than metal.
    Also to control it you need far more advance computing.

    Still it is a cool SiFi Concept.

    Robotech Remastered Opening


    Macross Zero dogfight F14


    Although in the Mcross World I think I would find myself fighting on the side of the Anti Unification Army NOT the UN Space Forces.

    I do think it is interesting that they used the venerable old F-14 Americas Front Line Cold Warrior.

    A tribute to F-14 Tomcat

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    Quote Originally Posted by EQ Fighter View Post
    Yeah Robotech was pretty cool, and unlike the Transformers it actually had a half ass story line.

    As far as it being achievable that is a different story. In Robotech the technology was reverse engineered from the SDF1 Crashed Space Craft.

    So it was humans reverse engineering the Mecha Tech to fight the aliens.

    I would say that with current material science we do not have materials strong enough to actually build a real life mecha.

    I mean you need materials that are very thin and much stronger than metal.
    Also to control it you need far more advance computing.

    Still it is a cool SiFi Concept.
    Check out this log harvester:

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...9084715476228#


    Develop some better hydraulic systems that allow for a more speedy output and make thicker legs so it could go from 6 legs to 4 or 2 and we're set. The Finns are ahead of the game. :p

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    Ok that is a very neat machine. But one of the questions here would be would a mecha be more effective than a standard tank.

    Also when you start to consider Aircraft, they are already under weight restrictions, so for them you still need better material science.

    Robots on the other hand I think are just around the corner. And with Genetic Engineering and nanotechnology who knows what is possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EQ Fighter View Post
    Ok that is a very neat machine. But one of the questions here would be would a mecha be more effective than a standard tank.
    Depends on if we can develop the mecha concept further to where it can literally be a mechanic extension of the pilots body.

    Also when you start to consider Aircraft, they are already under weight restrictions, so for them you still need better material science.
    I'm not thinking of airborne mecha so much like that is seen in Robotech, but rather ground mecha and possibly modified ground mecha with air compressors to maneuver in space like that seen in Gundam: The 08th MS Team.

    Robots on the other hand I think are just around the corner. And with Genetic Engineering and nanotechnology who knows what is possible.
    Robots are pretty much here, I think it was Honda who developed a robot who could play soccer, and I saw something on the local news about a man with a cybernetic arm that had censors that were able to pick up nerve signals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cadwallon View Post
    Depends on if we can develop the mecha concept further to where it can literally be a mechanic extension of the pilots body.
    I think the problem is that people do not come with input and output ports. That being said it is my guess that if one were to build a brain computer interface that nanotechnology would be the place to start. Meaning that designing a nano electronic intercepts injected into the blood stream. that would essentially allow a computer to communicate directly with the neurons.

    But that is just a guess on my part.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cadwallon View Post
    I'm not thinking of airborne mecha so much like that is seen in Robotech, but rather ground mecha and possibly modified ground mecha with air compressors to maneuver in space like that seen in Gundam: The 08th MS Team.
    Ok, in that context I will concede that it is a real possibility, and maybe even a probability.


    Quote Originally Posted by Cadwallon View Post
    Robots are pretty much here, I think it was Honda who developed a robot who could play soccer, and I saw something on the local news about a man with a cybernetic arm that had censors that were able to pick up nerve signals.
    Yes the Japanese have come extremely far in the context of building lifelike robots.

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    This is part of my side of a discussion on the same topic that I had at another forum:

    Basically work a bit more with the technology here: http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2008/05/dean-kamens-rob/

    and then increase the size of the parts gradually.

    Start out with man sized machines, move up to slightly bigger perhaps one that's 9 ft. tall, work on up until you have a 30 ft. tall behemoth.
    With a technology similar to what is displayed on wired.com we wouldn't need inject anything into the bloodstream, but rather work with nerve signals and sending them to other devices.

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    Here is the SS Mouse Shadow, when you positively, absolutely have to nuke every spew in the room.

    I drew/painted it today, finally back at Skadi too.

    I loved Robotech, as did all the other kids on the block. At 4pm we would pile into someones house (whomever was nearest) and sit and watch it. Everything stopped for Robotech! I love it as much as Sailor Moon.

    Now if they somehow combined the two I'd be in heaven!!!

    What does SS mean anyway? I supposed I should go find out.

    You'll notice the robot I drew has mini mouse ears too. Credit must be given to my friend who taught me how to draw these machines.

    Anyway, If I was to design the real SS Mouse Shadow, it'd be a drone mech, piloted far-far away. I'd also put a nuke onboard. So if anyone dared shoot it, they'd cop it the hard way. Why? Because fighting fair is for pussies!

    And to the Tank vs Mech, why not have a hybrid? Tracks, raised up like a four wheel drive, center torso and arms. That way you get the best of both worlds, the speed of a tank with the all-purpose ability of a robot. I think I've got a picture of one somewhere.....
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