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    My University Teaches About Race Differences

    Because I went to the most conservative public University, I took a few classes on subjects that most universities would simply avoid; Racial Inequality, IQ, Poverty, Government Welfare. Some facts we learned would be seen as “insensitive” to certain groups of people however they are 100% true. Because most of you probably will never get a chance to have conservative professors- I feel a great responsibility to educate others.

    Please stay with me, (not just because this took me forever to write), but I think these are basic concepts about society that everybody should know.

    1) Race, IQ and Behavior
    i) All of these statistics have been taken in America or North America, numerous times by many leading researchers (Dr. Richard Lynn and Dr. Tatu Vanhanen, Arthur Jensen among many others) and here are the averages.

    • Blacks; Average IQ 80, 70% of black children are illegitimate! been in prison 28.5%, 47% graduate High School, 25% in poverty
    • Whites; Average IQ 100, 25% of children are Illegitimate, been in prison before 4.4%, 75% graduate High School, 8.6% in poverty
    • Asians; Average IQ 105, Illegitimacy is 10% of Asian children, been in prison 1%, 77% graduate High School, 11.8% in poverty

    Notes: The IQ in Sub Saharan Africa is about 70 (Which is the mental age of a 12 year old). So why would African Americans score higher? The average African American is actually 20% white, and 10% American Indian which probably accounts for this difference in 10 points. It is also interesting to note that mixed Black/White children in America score exactly in between the averages for Whites and Blacks in IQ- 90.

    This data has spurred a debate about how much of the difference in IQ (and probably also other mental aspects determining behavior; Illegitimacy, Poverty, Crime etc.) is caused by nature (genetics) and how much of this is caused by nurture (family, poverty, community etc.) What you might be surprised to know is that data on this question is widely studied yielding nearly the exact same result every time but the results are never taught in universities (except mine).

    ii) Environment vs. Nurture
    For the short answer, nurture can only raise IQ about 10 points. This was found by David Armor in his book entitled, Maximizing Intelligence. In fact the differences in IQ were found to be caused 90% by genetics and only 10% by nurture based upon meta analysis tests published in Current Directions in Psychological Science. They study this by analyzing identical twins separated and adopted by different families at birth. And the result is that the IQ differences are usually less than 5 points and on occasion 5-10 points, but almost never more than 10 points of difference. All results were centered about the average for each race. But what are the ramifications of this data?

    The answer might shock you, the average high school graduate has an IQ of 105 and the average college graduate has an IQ of 115. This means that many ethnic Sub-Saharan African people, where the average IQ is only 70 will almost never produce any college graduates in the West (especially engineering and the sciences). Not surprisingly, most colleges in Sub Saharan Africa have vastly lower standards for academic testing compared to the west and East Asia. Other research has shown that to build a developed country an IQ threshold of 90 is the bare minimum. The top schools in Africa have an average IQ of 83-85. The average IQ of college professors, doctors, executives, accountants by the west’s standards are almost impossible for sub-Saharan Africans.


    2) Unskilled Immigration
    What exactly happens economically when a large influx of unskilled immigrants flood a job sector. Well basic economics tells us. Using a supply of labor and demand of labor graph, the effects can be calculated. The influx of Mexican immigration into America has decreased the average unskilled labor job 5% in wage. In certain sectors, like construction the wage has decreased 20%.

    The sad thing is that applying what I discussed in section 1), many of the immigrants will have trouble rising to the top of society, (engineers, scientists, doctors etc.). This means that the 5% decrease in unskilled wages is probably here to stay, because they will not move out of unskilled labor.

    3) Affirmative Action
    Our governments have seen the data on graduation rates, and remember something they learned back in high school- Jim Crow and slavery. So they ignore common sense data what I discussed in section 1) and instead think the only reason for a disparity is that blacks must have been discriminated against. So our government came up with affirmative action and now discriminates against whites and asians.

    First, Affirmative action doesn’t increase the rate of blacks going to college- it only changes the college they go to. At the University of Michigan, the average black SAT score is 230 points lower than the average white SAT score. In 2002, .7% of blacks scored a 700 or higher on the math SAT, while 6.2% of whites did. Accounting for population levels, this means that top schools should have 1% of their student bodies’ black, but in reality our top schools are 6% black- clearly showing blacks have much lower standards than whites. Since top Ivy schools like Harvard and Princeton accept blacks with SAT scores between 1200-1300, this leaves lower ranked schools like the University of Michigan (a school I didn’t get into) to have to lower their standards to accept blacks. They accept blacks with SAT scores of 1000-1100, well below their normal level! (250 points lower than my score)!

    Mismatching students has serious academic implications, blacks that score at the lower end of their college tend to, not surprisingly, fail at a much higher rate. Furthermore, this mismatching causes blacks to choose easy majors in college; athletics, leadership, education leading to low paying jobs.

    In law school, affirmative action is widely practiced. What are the results? 8% of Blacks score in the top 50% of the class. And 50% of blacks score in the bottom 10% of the class! The whole point of law school is to pass the bar exam; 9% of whites fail this exam while 40% of blacks fail this exam. Clearly many of these affirmative action spots have been wasted. Should they have gone to students that scored higher, and had better credentials for the spot regardless of race?

    In conclusion, the interesting thing about Affirmative Action is that it ends up hurting the very group it aims to lift up. Egalitarians still think that affirmative action is “social justice”. But in fact they neglect to realize that “mother nature is not an egalitarian”- everybody is not of equal mental ability.






    4) More Stuff I Can Post
    If anybody enjoyed this, I would love to discuss more topics on here.

    Here are more things I can write….
    1) Race and Income (my teacher showed us actual data correcting the wildly exaggerated rate of discrimination and racial income disparities cited by the NAACP)
    2) Government Control (Taxes and MTR) (Socialism and Capitalism)
    3) Social Security (negative return on money you put in) Medicare (negative return on money you put in) and the Private Retirement account (positive return on money put in).

    (Those three are quite a bit more technical).

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    although these are infact acurate percentages and measurements i have to come to think that there are variables determining them. overall in the US Asian-Americans especially those that are immigrants came here from countries like South Korea with higher standards in education. entery level math in korea is calculus while in the US algrebra or geometrie. there society is more strict and they care those strict rules in there families over the United States, which i would say is more of a laid back society for the most part.

    as for whites there are more here, after all we are the majority, there fore we have a more "averaged IQ" than say the intellectual class asians coming to the US in a smaller population. this can probably explain the higher IQ levels coming from asians in the US.

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    "there society is more strict and they care those strict rules in there families over the United States, which i would say is more of a laid back society for the most part."

    I think your absolutely correct. I also think you can apply what I said into your thoughts. East Asians really push that 10 point IQ difference (nurture) for all its worth- but because of genetics they cannot push it higher. However there are drawbacks, I think that their family structures cause a lot of unneeded stress and tension. (in trying to push the 10 point difference even more).

    Most of my friends are East Asians and I do admire their work ethic- which I learned a great deal from- but I have also seen the bad effects of this that most will not see. Many feel trapped in their family and over-pressured by their parents demands. Most have distant relationships with family. Many pursue careers that they do not enjoy- doctors, pharmacists- only to make a lot of money. I think they push the trade off of work and enjoyment a little bit too far into the work side.

    Many of them also, (i guess in frustration) have admitted to me, (shockingly) that they hate their race (parents demands, physical features of Asian women and Asian people) and only want to date white girls who they told me "look the best".

    What a strange world.

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    Excellent post. Recently, I have noticed that there are a lot more blacks attending university than several years ago. I wonder whether entry standards have been lowered to accept them. I'm not sure if most of them are just spending one year here or not, or what their situations are, but i'm sure they'll be getting plenty of financial assistance either way, with the universities falling over themselves to accomodate them.
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    I always thought Houston was a black city.
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    Blacks have an average IQ of 80? That's nearly retarded!

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    "I always thought Houston was a black city."
    The college I attend was not in Houston but in small town containing the "most conservative" college and professors in america. But your correct Houston is now a Black and Mexican city. I grew up in a very diverse place in the city (35% white), but now live in a suburb just outside the city in an area 90% white but that is decreasing very fast.

    "Blacks have an IQ of 80? Thats nearly retarded"
    No, African Americans have an average IQ of 80, and African Blacks have an average IQ of 70. Both 70 and 80 are retarded in my opinion. But according to scientists IQ's between 70-84 are labeled Borderline intellectual functioning. 69 and below is mild mental retardation- which encompasses a HUGE percentage of population in certain African countries!

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    So why would African Americans score higher? The average African American is actually 20% white.
    How did that happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nordfrisk View Post
    although these are infact acurate percentages and measurements i have to come to think that there are variables determining them. overall in the US Asian-Americans especially those that are immigrants came here from countries like South Korea with higher standards in education. entery level math in korea is calculus while in the US algrebra or geometrie. there society is more strict and they care those strict rules in there families over the United States, which i would say is more of a laid back society for the most part.

    as for whites there are more here, after all we are the majority, there fore we have a more "averaged IQ" than say the intellectual class asians coming to the US in a smaller population. this can probably explain the higher IQ levels coming from asians in the US.
    -The largest ethnic subgroups are Chinese (3.53 million).

    -Koreans (1.56 million).

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    Let's discuss why African Americans have higher IQ than Africans. I suspect that the fact that they are have some European blood in them and the fact that they are educated in American schools has something to do with it.
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