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    Quote Originally Posted by Æmeric View Post
    I think the English are more closely related to the Dutch & Low Saxons. The Normans were primarily an aristocratic group, most of the common people remained pre-conquest English. But the question remains has to just how much Cymru did the English absorbed in their conquest of England?
    Very little. IIRC, the native Bretons were forced into Wales and Cornwall as the Anglo-Saxons pushed inland. The Scots, I think, are majority Celtic, save those of the Orkney Isles and other areas of Norwegian influence.

    You're correct about the Normans. The biggest influence they had on England was its language. Many of our "high-end" words come from French rather than a Germanic source. Mansion, attorney general, president, court, justice. The commoner's language was mostly unaffected. Hence, house/home (haus/heim), bread (brot) etc etc etc. The people remained English, and the common language was mostly preserved, hence our continued use of Germanic word order rather than French word order.

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    Similarly, the Normans themselves were not largely "Nordic," at least not in the sense that lots of Vikings had come to France/Belgium and settled. The local Gaulic/Frankish/Gallo-Roman peoples were subjugated to the Viking overloads - for awhile.

    The Vikings or Norsemen were cousins of everyone around the North Sea, of course, but boy were their boats ever state-of-the-art for the time (and their war organization and weaponry, too).

    Certainly the Norsemen were responsible for organizing Normandy into a larger political unit capable of invasion. But the rank and file of their army had deeper (genetic and cultural) roots in France. They were Normanized Franks, of varying degree of Gallic background (William the Conqueror was not straightforwardly in line with mainstream thinking about rank and hierarchy in his day). The Normans certainly retained much in common with the Franks, both Salic and Ripuarian, who had been in the region for a long time.

    William II of Normandy, even as King of England, was still technically a vassal to the King of France. He would have probably been puzzled by any suggestion that he was a Norseman or a Viking.

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    Lancastershire?

    I was puzzled by Lancastershire? Did you mean Lancashire?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BritishLad View Post
    This is a question I've been wondering about for a while, so I'll get it off my chest and see what people who know more about the subject than me say.
    The English have obviously a stronger Germanic DNA than most the Welsh and Scottish, though some northern Scottish groups have strong Scandinavian ties. About 50% of the British males carry a Germanic Y-chromosome which is prevalent in Denmark and northern Germany, this is according to a genetical and biological study done by the University College London in 2011. Genomically anyway, British people are very similar already to people of the Netherlands, northern Germany, Denmark and Norway.

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