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    Quote Originally Posted by Finn View Post
    Read an article recently on British DNA. Said that 6 out of 10 British males carry Frisian DNA. And also the Frisian language (old Frisian ) being the root language of English
    I believe there were large numbers of Frisians in Britain before the Anglo-Saxon invasion of Britain and should have been called (and is by some scholars ) the. Anglo - Frisian invasion.

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    What makes you believe that the Frisians are not Germans?

    The Frisians are Germans. And so are (were) the Dutch genetically. The Netherlands split off from the Reich in the late 16th century.



    Today the East-Frisians are in the FRG while the West-Frisians are in Holland.
    The Dutch language is a Lower German dialect.

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    I agree with you MCPThree you have no argument with me. The Frisians are a Germanic tribe, the last tribe. Just tired of hearing the Saxons getting all the credit. Let's call it tribal rivalry lol.. very proud of our 2000 yrs + history

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finn View Post
    I agree with you MCPThree you have no argument with me. The Frisians are a Germanic tribe, the last tribe. Just tired of hearing the Saxons getting all the credit. Let's call it tribal rivalry lol.. very proud of our 2000 yrs + history
    Well, it is important to be familiar with the YGGDRASIL (The Tree of Live) theory.
    I am going to post more about it, but here for starters:
    H.S.Chamberlain: The Foundations of the 19th Century
    http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=137093

    There are generally 2 groups of Germanics: The West-Germanics and the North Germancis (Viking peoples). Both are however somewhat related, see common pre-Christian culture (Althing, Dieties, Sagas etc).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fortress Germania View Post
    Of course as an English nationalist I take the England is Germanic position. Scientists have found the patriachal DNA of English and Dutch men are almost identical, while the patriachal DNA of the English and Welsh, both British, are very different and they live on the same island. Testing is not yet accurate enough to differentiate between Viking, Angle and Saxon DNA in England.
    The second link you provided is very outdated. Since the article was published in 2002, the science of genetics has progressed exponentially. I'm English, born and bred in Devon with no Scots/Welsh/Irish ancestry that I know of. I decided to take a 23andme test to try to understand human haplotypes better; what surprised me were my results, that I sat in the `Irish` plot on the graphs that they provide once you have done a test. What it boils down to is this; English, Scots, Welsh and Irish are very closely connected genetically, in fact there is very little to differentiate us at all - we're much closer to each other than we are to our continental cousins. West British people (people from Wales, west of England, NW England) who take the DNA test tend to sit ever so slightly closer to the Irish than they do to the English.

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    The Normans: Norwegian or Danish Vikings?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blóð ok Andi View Post
    How "Scandinavian" were the Normans really, in terms of genetics?
    I believe that it is still disputed as to which Norse nation the Normans are actually descended from: Norwegians or Danes. It is not known whether Hrolf/Rolf/Rollo, the Norse founder of the duchy of Normandy, was Norwegian or Danish. But one thing is known: the Normans were not full-blooded descendants of Vikings but a meld of Norse and Frankish bloods, both of which are of course Germanic. Norse settlers in Normandy intermarried and interbred with Frankish women as well as adopting Old French as their language, Christianity as their religion, and the Frankish form of feudalism as their system of government. After a time and certainly by the 11th century, the Normans regarded themselves as Franks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caoimhe View Post
    I'm English, born and bred in Devon with no Scots/Welsh/Irish ancestry that I know of. I decided to take a 23andme test to try to understand human haplotypes better; what surprised me were my results, that I sat in the `Irish` plot on the graphs that they provide once you have done a test. What it boils down to is this; English, Scots, Welsh and Irish are very closely connected genetically, in fact there is very little to differentiate us at all - we're much closer to each other than we are to our continental cousins. West British people (people from Wales, west of England, NW England) who take the DNA test tend to sit ever so slightly closer to the Irish than they do to the English.
    Maybe the Irish/Welsh and Scots share the same genetic make up as us English because of the huge Norman influence that they endured for centuries.
    Remember there was no part of the British isles and Ireland that we Normans didnt dominate.....the Normans were very shrewd and the men married into the local aristocracies thus spreading the Norman seed genetically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TommyAtkins View Post
    Maybe the Irish/Welsh and Scots share the same genetic make up as us English because of the huge Norman influence that they endured for centuries.
    Remember there was no part of the British isles and Ireland that we Normans didnt dominate.....the Normans were very shrewd and the men married into the local aristocracies thus spreading the Norman seed genetically.
    Norman influence has a part to play, but it goes much deeper than that. The original population of the B. Isles (prior to the Celts) plays the biggest part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TommyAtkins View Post
    Maybe the Irish/Welsh and Scots share the same genetic make up as us English because of the huge Norman influence that they endured for centuries.
    Remember there was no part of the British isles and Ireland that we Normans didnt dominate.....the Normans were very shrewd and the men married into the local aristocracies thus spreading the Norman seed genetically.
    That's true. There is Norman ancestry to a greater or lesser degree in all the Anglo-Celtic aristocracies, peerages, and gentries throughout Britain and Ireland. Norman blood is a common element.

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    Scotland, WAles, and Ireland are more or less Celtic. The English are closely related to the Germanics and Normans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caoimhe View Post
    Norman influence has a part to play, but it goes much deeper than that. The original population of the B. Isles (prior to the Celts) plays the biggest part.
    That's your opinion. But every country in the British isles has some history of English and Norman settlement.

    • The Scottish lowland population is predominantly of Anglo-Saxon stock.
    • The Anglo-Saxons delved significantly deeper into Wales than the modern border reflects. Also the immigration of Flemings to Britain was of much greater importance to Wales than elsewhere. Typical "Welsh" names such as Jenkins, Thompkins, etc, are of Flemish origin.
    • Ireland was heavily settled - or planted - by English and lowland Scottish settlers over a period of hundreds of years.


    And of course the Normans and Vikings settled throughout the British Isles.
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