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    Post When Did Multiculturalism Become Entrenched in America?

    When Did Multiculturalism Become Entrenched in America?
    What Parties are Responsible for Multiculturalism in America?

    I trace the Turning point in American History, that entrenched Multiculturalism into the depth of American Mainstream culture as the birth year of MTV in 1990. Ever since than MTV has been a Medium used by Negroes and others to Promote their Cultural and "Values". Before MTV was around Wiggerism and Romanticization of black male/white female was far from Mainstream.

    I hold Rich Capitalists responsible. They are the one's who willingly betray White culture in exchange for the all Mighty Dollar. They are the one's who Tolerate Jew Media. They are the ones who Bribe Politicians to make Policies that serve their Interests while hurting White America.
    Sure you can blame Negroes,you can blame Jews, You can blame Spics who don't want to learn English, but Ultimately it's the Plutocracy of the American Captalist System, that holds the most blame, Exalting the Almighty Dollar above all else.
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    Post Re: When Did Multiculturalism Become Entrenched in America?

    Can you not abstain from personal attacks towards single tribes?

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    Post Re: When Did Multiculturalism Become Entrenched in America?

    It was more of a process than single incidents that produced the misery we live in today.

    But the most important turn points were:
    a) The 2nd world war and the allied propaganda (you couldnt be a bigger racist than Germany to get others involved, not to forget the Jewish influence)
    After the war they couldnt go back to business after they fought a bloody war with no other reason against Germany than saying , “we fight for justice and a free world blabla...”


    b) Kennedy era, Vietnam war and 68 Neomarxist (many of them but not all Jewish) revolution - total egalitarism and nurture as important factor for everything only...
    Jews tried to get involved in policy even more in the USA, partly because of their wish get on the top with helping other minorities and get through with a plan for a society they want (plural-pseudotolerant-liberal), to help Isreal (6 days war etc.)
    In this time the first big alliance between WASPs and Jews was made.
    The WASPs agreed because they feared Communism, so they made concessions to egalitarian-Marxist demands and said later: “Look, we are the real land of the free, more egalitarian and free than Marxism blabla...”
    Again after they won the “Cold War” they couldnt go back to business and in fact this ideology (combination of Marxist egalitarian and classic Liberal views) was very useful for their new concepts of social organization and their wish to fullfil the Anglo-destiny (many in GB and US really felt and feel that way) to make the world free...especially the economy first of course – with no personal interests, I’m sure ^^

    c) The new Neoliberal even faster expanding capitalistic economy with exponents like the Jews which fled from Vienna for the NS, like Friedman and Hayek, both Monetarian and liberal, which influenced first Reagan (Reaganomic, social destruction, military budget) and secondly Thatcher even more, because Reagan was an idiot, but for one good cause, to destroy Communism, and with his deficit spending for the military sector not a pure Monetarian - which Thatcher the bitch of GB actually was.

    d) The not very successful results of this policy but on the other hand the collapsing system of real Socialism.
    From this time on they said that their Neoliberal economy just dont work perfect because so many do still influence the "free market" and do not let the "invisible hand" work which will produce a "better world for everybody.

    They tried to save their collapsing markets by even more social "reforms" and expanding economies, getting new capital with pensions fonds (press the rest out of the working and middle class) for a wordwide big capital circulation.

    For this you need a world without borders, without obstructive traditions and at best just consumer oriented-horny for working workaholics people with fitting life concepts.

    But how you get through with this? You need an ideology which can work for everybody, the Californian-American dream for everybody.
    Just an illusion for most, but how can it work?

    And universalistic concept of what humans are, what are the rights and duties of humans and what are the "god given rules".
    Thats the Pax Americana which want to bring liberalcapitalism in such a form to everybody.

    Many know that Europeans might die out, maybe they dont even like Latinos, Negroes etc., but hey, what is more important, your investment or collective future?
    For the Hedomats of today its clear - the investment.

    So if you want to convince even a Hindu or Muslim, you must be n good example for what you preach, must be (pseudo-) "tolerant" in your country, give people asylum blabla...

    Just to prove you mean it serious and its not just about money...

    Some even mean it serious this "one world concept" with race-mixing and pluralism-multiculturalism as the only way to "infinite peace".

    But for the most people in the "think-tanks" (like Wolfowitz) and the people behind its much more important to get through with their free world market - total Liberalism!

    And they cant go back because the USA is so weak atm, so depending from foreign markets, so much was invested, that the state would totally collapse if they want to go back again...
    So they work on and on and on for the free world market and hope to get at least from foreigners more money back than they invested -
    this concept is not a non-profit one and even the Jews are more interesting in stabilizing their power they have now, than doing something social etc.

    So I do not wonder that most of the Jews are Liberals today, and just very, very small groups real Marxists any more...they have made it, they dont need the minorities any more.

    Maybe from time to time against the gentiles, and to prove their "honest conviction" of the one world shit...

    But you are right, most of them were WASPs, just the ideas (look at Hayek, Friedman and Soros) came from Jews.
    The WASP establishment wants power and profit, so they followed their "think tanks".
    They dont must to believe it, its just another mean for this Plutocrats to stay in power and gain more profits - to spread the American idiocy of life throughout the whole world.

    Just some thoughts...
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    Post Re: When Did Multiculturalism Become Entrenched in America?

    I think Anglo Saxons are rather naive in their individualism. I think humans as a species are anything but individuals (as even the Englishman said, "No man is an island") - and that we achieve the most and in fact feel the most free as a collective.

    "Individual freedom" is a fallacy, as is the silly concept of "Freedom" as a self-explanatory thing. Lenin asked the right question: "Freedom to do *what*?"

    The free market ideology, the idea of Market as value-generator, is also a fallacy. It's a red herring to divert people from the fact that these "free markets" are controlled by groups of people working towards their own goals, and to the detriment of the "citizens" in the nations they use. The "invisible hand" is a human hand.
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    Post Re: When Did Multiculturalism Become Entrenched in America?

    Thats true. But even their radical Individualism doesnt explain their racial egalitarianism. Thjere Marxism and religion comes in.

    But you are absolutely right.

    The reason why the promote such individualism is imo, that, they want no obstacles for their free world market and world control.
    Groups can defend themselves, individuals cant.

    And for the free market, if the business men has just to fight with one or two workers, what can they do? He is just stronger and will be even more in the future.

    In the past the collective would have reacted sometimes, religious instances would, political groups and unions. But today?
    They are just lost.

    They want just the market and the individuals - with no higher organization WHICH THE LIBERAL PLUTOCRATS DO NOT CONTROLL in between.

    And yes, more collective spirit is human and makes humans more healthy. They wouldnt need as much psychotherapists, drugs and useless things with a fulfilled life.

    MTV and the hedomatic society is just the result of the final manipulation, the playing with the most primitive instincts. The society does things with this drives/instincts for which they are not made for to manipulate the youth in the right direction.

    They still make many mistakes but at least they make masses of small consumption addicted individuals which are egomanic and hedonistic out of the youth what is there primary goal with all their advertisment and propaganda.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agrippa
    Thats true. But even their radical Individualism doesnt explain their racial egalitarianism. Thjere Marxism and religion comes in.

    But you are absolutely right.

    The reason why the promote such individualism is imo, that, they want no obstacles for their free world market and world control.
    Groups can defend themselves, individuals cant.

    And for the free market, if the business men has just to fight with one or two workers, what can they do? He is just stronger and will be even more in the future.

    In the past the collective would have reacted sometimes, religious instances would, political groups and unions. But today?
    They are just lost.

    They want just the market and the individuals - with no higher organization WHICH THE LIBERAL PLUTOCRATS DO NOT CONTROLL in between.

    And yes, more collective spirit is human and makes humans more healthy. They wouldnt need as much psychotherapists, drugs and useless things with a fulfilled life.

    MTV and the hedomatic society is just the result of the final manipulation, the playing with the most primitive instincts. The society does things with this drives/instincts for which they are not made for to manipulate the youth in the right direction.

    They still make many mistakes but at least they make masses of small consumption addicted individuals which are egomanic and hedonistic out of the youth what is there primary goal with all their advertisment and propaganda.
    Money!!! Money!!! Money!!!

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    Post Re: When Did Multiculturalism Become Entrenched in America?

    Ok, well, ever since the Euros set foot in America, they inched closer and closer to the native tribes and that is the source of multiulturalism.

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    Post Re: When Did Multiculturalism Become Entrenched in America?

    In the past the collective would have reacted sometimes, religious instances would, political groups and unions. But today?
    How has the Collective been so suppressed?



    MTV and the hedomatic society is just the result of the final manipulation, the playing with the most primitive instincts. The society does things with this drives/instincts for which they are not made for to manipulate the youth in the right direction.
    Yes in some ways I see the hedonistic MTV Culture as some sort of diversion made by those Rich Captalists to keep the young distracted and busy with the latest trends and fads, always trying to be in "style" and "Cool". Just another way to generate money with total disregard for the effects. The sad thing is Young people are so caught up in this MTV Culture so caught up with trying to be in style and appearing Cool in the eyes of their peers that they don't even realize their being manipulated by profit driven Captalists bent on polluting American White Culture and turning it into a Multicultural freak show.

    I wonder how long America on with this System the way things are now. It would seem all it would take is a collaspe of the Economy to shatter the current Liberalism that is so rampant. Perhaps when America is divided into different factions After an Severe Economic collapse only than will Americans again realize the importance of Racial solitarity and perservation.
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    Post Re: When Did Multiculturalism Become Entrenched in America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Agrippa
    Thats true. But even their radical Individualism doesnt explain their racial egalitarianism. Thjere Marxism and religion comes in.

    But you are absolutely right.

    The reason why the promote such individualism is imo, that, they want no obstacles for their free world market and world control.
    Groups can defend themselves, individuals cant.

    And for the free market, if the business men has just to fight with one or two workers, what can they do? He is just stronger and will be even more in the future.

    In the past the collective would have reacted sometimes, religious instances would, political groups and unions. But today?
    They are just lost.

    They want just the market and the individuals - with no higher organization WHICH THE LIBERAL PLUTOCRATS DO NOT CONTROLL in between.

    And yes, more collective spirit is human and makes humans more healthy. They wouldnt need as much psychotherapists, drugs and useless things with a fulfilled life.

    MTV and the hedomatic society is just the result of the final manipulation, the playing with the most primitive instincts. The society does things with this drives/instincts for which they are not made for to manipulate the youth in the right direction.

    They still make many mistakes but at least they make masses of small consumption addicted individuals which are egomanic and hedonistic out of the youth what is there primary goal with all their advertisment and propaganda.
    I think it's unfair to call the individualist consumer liberalism current in the West and especially the USA "Marxism." Marx was a major figure to point out many of the things you suggest here: including how individual workers who lack "class consciousness" (collective thinking) are easy prey for highly organized and powerful capitalists. I think many of Marx's insights remain quite relevant to the modern world, and his economic analysis was excellent and perhaps unsurpassed to this day.

    Marx promoted Socialism for Europe only, and considered e.g. capitalist development in India to be progressive (for India). I don't know of him ever promoting racial mixing.

    However, Marx-ists in the USA promoted racial mixing. Or rather, people promoting racial mixing used (quite selectively) Marx's words (as well as the words of many others) to promote their political agenda.

    However - Marx's idea of revolution by a proletarian underclass is untenable in the West. The USA and the West in general tends to find proleterian laborers from undeveloped countries. We need a solution for this. In the USA, a strong protectionist alliance with Europe would be excellent. No more free education and development for Third World people and economies. We need a collective spirit, not "every man making a profit for himself."

    What Marxism is to blame for is the idea of class warfare, and dividing Western societies along these lines - which has been misused since the 1960's in the USA as the Countercultural movement, which promoted such destructive ideas as radical feminism, sexual liberation, egalitarianism, etc.

    However the trend of Globalism is quite strong. Perhaps an increase in global terrorism can cause a new feeling of isolationism and protectionism - but more likely it will increase the involvement of the West in the Third World, both commercially and militarily.

    :-(

    Any ideas for a solution?
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    However the trend of Globalism is quite strong. Perhaps an increase in global terrorism can cause a new feeling of isolationism and protectionism - but more likely it will increase the involvement of the West in the Third World, both commercially and militarily. Any Ideas for a solution?
    Yes I think that likely too. Terrorism will only make Global co-operation more imperative. Isolation is impossible. How many of us come in contact with non-white on a daily basis? However protection in the form of making Racism an accepted Idealogy is possible.

    The best solution I can think of is a system where people society is Stratified based on Race like that of Brazil.


    In the future America is either heading for Brazilfication or Balkanazation. It's either going to be a Diverse yet Stratified Country where everyone knows their place such as Brazil(where the unspoken law of Race reigns) or a society like that of the Balkans where each of the various ethnicities are isolated in enclaves and constantly fighting Genocidal wars with their neighbors. I personally see Brazilifacation as being more Realistic.

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