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Thread: Food Reform: Senate Bill S510 Makes It Illegal to Grow, Share, Trade or Sell Homegrown Food, or Even to Produce Your Own Food

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    Quote Originally Posted by wittwer
    These particuliar clauses you refer to in the Bill regarding the policing of Food, applies in times of National, State or Local Emergencies where Martial Law needs to be imposed (by Court Order) in order to recreate and/or maintain order.
    You are a terrorist (German with English subtitles)


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    This is just a Federal reiteration of State Law that controls the movement and commercial aspects of any commodity during Emergencies to control Black Markets and assure equal access to commodities such as water, food and energy.
    Soon enough "Black Markets" will be the only place where you can get vital vitamines, some fruits, cattle thats not pumped full with hormones and antibiotics... Remember, you, the citizen, are a terrorist. Because you're white.

    Quote Originally Posted by wittwer
    As for the Constitutionality of the current piece of legislation, The Constitution under the "Commerce Clause" Art. I, Sec.8, Clause 3 and the "Necessary & Proper Clause" Art. I, Sec.8, Clause 18, allows for the enactment and enforcement of legislation for the security and wellbeing of the Nation.
    When your government is not anymore of your nation, but your enemy, an occupying force, what do you think is meant with the "wellbeing of the nation"? You/the citizens? Certainly not.

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    The current Bill, is just a continuation of these efforts to secure, protect, and ensure the safety and healthfulness of America's Food Supply well into the 21st Century.
    Since you obviously get those new legislations delivered before they even are published, you seem to be part of the government machinery - which also explains your complete lack of critique to anything a bill says (when in the last 100 years did a bill hold what it had promised?), not to say dangerous naivity.
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    I would basically echo wittwer and say further that these sorts of stories seem to be popular with conspiracists on the rightist fringe. Upon close inspection they are typically seen to be far less nefarious than they might at first appear.

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    We need more common sense and less laws, restrictive laws hamper the small growers, and the big guys pay or find ways around the laws. If sheeple elect morons, you get moronic laws...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valbiorn View Post
    We need more common sense and less laws, restrictive laws hamper the small growers, and the big guys pay or find ways around the laws. If sheeple elect morons, you get moronic laws...
    Growing or sharing homegrown food?! really?!

    I can see Agricorporations rejoicing and planning their finacial conquest right now, I can also see genetically modified mutant foods with unnatural and artifical flavors added to them earning these pests lots of money. I can also see their chemtrail planes flying through our skies testing their pesticides and poisons on our houses and streets.

    Take a look at just who this new law is really meant to benefit.
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    Common Sense & Legislation

    Quote Originally Posted by Valbiorn View Post
    We need more common sense and less laws, restrictive laws hamper the small growers, and the big guys pay or find ways around the laws. If sheeple elect morons, you get moronic laws...
    "If Common Sense were a common commodity, the World would be a Utopia".

    Which the World ain't. Such is the need for Legislation. Much Legislation is a response to stupidity and ignorance that has floated to the surface and cause myriad problems. Such is the reason for this Bill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wittwer View Post
    These particuliar clauses you refer to in the Bill regarding the policing of Food, applies in times of National, State or Local Emergencies where Martial Law needs to be imposed (by Court Order) in order to recreate and/or maintain order. This is just a Federal reiteration of State Law that controls the movement and commercial aspects of any commodity during Emergencies to control Black Markets and assure equal access to commodities such as water, food and energy.

    As for the Constitutionality of the current piece of legislation, The Constitution under the "Commerce Clause" Art. I, Sec.8, Clause 3 and the "Necessary & Proper Clause" Art. I, Sec.8, Clause 18, allows for the enactment and enforcement of legislation for the security and wellbeing of the Nation. These particuliar applications vis a vis legislation have been further enhanced and developed by the Supreme Court Case, "McCulloch vs Maryland" and in the explanations developed in the Federalist Papers No.33 and No.44.
    Oh, yeah this makes sense. They are allowed to say when a national crises or emergency is. Like the "War on Poverty" the "War on Drugs" or the "War on Terror". Just remember our founding fathers warned us about trading Liberty for security.

    This bill is not a common sense law. Have you ever wondered why we have not been able to defeat Poverty, Drugs and Terrorism? We have not been able to defeat these things because they are not centralised. If you centralise our food system there is greater chance of mass contamination or mass failure. Look we are talking about our federal government here, the very people that could not even run a brothel let alone a food supply. Are you that naive to believe that our government has our best interest at heart?

    I like how you bring up the commerce clause. One of the very things that has been used against our bill of rights over and over again. Using the commerce clause or the supreme court does not make it constitutional as both in the past have gone against the intent of the Constitution.

    As for the historical antecedents of this Bill, this has been a work in progress for over 100 years. It starts with the "Pure Food & Drug Act" of 1906 and has been amended and added to by the "Meat Inspection Act"; "Food, Drug & Cosmetic Act" and "Food Quality Protection Act". The current Bill, is just a continuation of these efforts to secure, protect, and ensure the safety and healthfulness of America's Food Supply well into the 21st Century.
    There we go again trading safety and security for liberty. I have no problem for safe standards as long as they are applied evenly and fairly. That is something our government has failed to do. That is something this bill fails to do also.

    Do you think this over processed food is healthy? Really I would like to know. It has nothing to do with healthfulness, but has everything to with control.


    Have I seen the Bill? Yes. Copies of it were sent to the various State & County Agricultural Offices in our State for review and comment by Durbin's Office prior to release by the Committee.
    That is the same source I first seen this bill and first started getting pissed about it. Just look at who is sponsoring this monster. Dick Durdin is just a shining example of of freedom and liberty is he not(sarcasm).

    I think I can see you supporting the banker bailout, obama care, cap and trade and gun control as well. After all are not these things for our own protection( more sarcasm ). It would not even surprise me if you were a obama supporter, as you do seem to believe in big government.
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    In my opinion this law was not enacted to protect us from anything.... it was in fact enacted to allow control... just because they used the excuse and cover of black market trading does not change what it really is.... a form of control keeping people reliant on government to survive....

    When people are able to feed themselves, a very easy thing thing to do, and when people are able to care for themselves medically, also been done for thousands of years but illegal now. They are then able to survive and reproduce without the aid of government, also been done for thousands of years. The control of government is a very tenuos thing and the government is very well aware of that.

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