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    Tut Anghk Amun Was Western European

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    King Tut’s DNA is Western European
    Posted by EU Times on Jun 7th, 2010 // 101 Comments


    Despite the refusal of the Secretary General of the Egyptian Supreme Council of Antiquities, Zahi Hawass, to release any DNA results which might indicate the racial ancestry of Pharaoh Tutankhamen, the leaked results reveal that King Tut’s DNA is a 99.6 percent match with Western European Y chromosomes.

    The DNA test results were inadvertently revealed on a Discovery Channel TV documentary filmed with Hawass’s permission — but it seems as if the Egyptian failed to spot the giveaway part of the documentary which revealed the test results.

    Hawass previously announced that he would not release the racial DNA results of Egyptian mummies — obviously because he feared the consequences of such a revelation.

    On the Discovery Channel broadcast, which can be seen on the Discovery Channel website here, or if they pull it, on YouTube here, at approximately 1:53 into the video, the camera pans over a printout of DNA test results from King Tut.

    Firstly, here is a brief explanation of the results visible in the video. It is a list of what is called Short Tandem Repeats (STRs).

    STRs are repeated DNA sequences which are “short repeat units” whose characteristics make them especially suitable for human identification.

    These STR values for 17 markers visible in the video are as follows:
    DYS 19 – 14 (? not clear)
    DYS 385a – 11
    DYS 385b – 14
    DYS 389i – 13
    DYS 389ii – 30
    DYS 390 – 24
    DYS 391 – 11
    DYS 392 – 13
    DYS 393 – 13
    DYS 437 – 14 (? not clear)
    DYS 438 – 12
    DYS 439 – 10
    DYS 448 – 19
    DYS 456 – 15
    DYS 458 – 16
    DYS 635 – 23
    YGATAH4 – 11

    What does this mean? Fortunately, a genius by the name of Whit Athey provides the key to this list. Mr Athey is a retired physicist whose working career was primarily at the Food and Drug Administration where he was chief of one of the medical device labs.

    Mr Athey received his doctorate in physics and biochemistry at Tufts University, and undergraduate (engineering) and masters (math) degrees at Auburn University. For several years during the 1980s, he also taught one course each semester in the electrical engineering department of the University of Maryland. Besides his interest in genetic genealogy, he is an amateur astronomer and has his own small observatory near his home in Brookeville, MD.

    He also runs a very valuable website called the “Haplogroup Predictor” which allows users to input STR data and generate the haplogroup which marks those STR data.

    For those who want to know what a haplogroup is, here is a “simple” definition: a haplogroup is a group of similar haplotypes that share a common ancestor with a single nucleotide polymorphism (SNP) mutation.

    Still none the wiser? Damn these scientists.

    Ok, let’s try it this way: a haplotype is a combination of multiple specific locations of a gene or DNA sequence on a chromosome.

    Haplogroups are assigned letters of the alphabet, and refinements consist of additional number and letter combinations, for example R1b or R1b1. Y-chromosome and mitochondrial DNA haplogroups have different haplogroup designations. In essence, haplogroups give an inisight into ancestral origins dating back thousands of years.

    By entering all the STR data inadvertently shown on the Discovery video, a 99.6 percent fit with the R1b haplogroup is revealed.

    The significance is, of course, that R1b is the most common Y-chromosome haplogroup in Europe reaching its highest concentrations in Ireland, Scotland, western England and the European Atlantic seaboard — in other words, European through and through.

    So much for the Afro-centrists and others who have derided the very obvious northwestern European appearance of a large number of the pharonic mummies. It seems like March of the Titans was right after all…
    Quoted from http://www.eutimes.net/2010/06/king-...tern-european/



    That means another white civilisation. no negroes ever produced one.
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    Wow, call me a hypocrite but I once defended people who proclaimed that Africans had been civilised before, there are many sites out there which propogate this kind of stuff and said that the Egyptians clearly had African hair etc [I suppose it would look like that after they been dead a few thousand years]. Slap my hand but I thought I was backing up the truth.

    I always had a suspicion that the Egyptians we at least a mix of southern Europeans and Africans, but this is no mix, the guy is pure European. Judging by the map on the original site, I would say he is Celtic as much as anything?

    Nice find!


    edit; axim or is it axum from ethiopia was a black empire and civilisation?

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    The thought that Tutankhamun was Western European would never had crossed my mind!

    You learn something new everyday.

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    King tut a ‘briton’ eh, yea we certainly learn a new thing everyday. …roughly speaking of course.

    It is also interesting when we consider that Akhenaton ~ his father, invented monotheism [the Atun, sun god] and many things in the bible derive of Egyptian teachings, such as the the judgement, confessions etc. for me it makes my whole spirituality circular and brings it together nicely in a single influential European culture and spirituality.

    tehe, the jews got a bit of us in them after all. in fact without the egyptian and persian influence they were essentially worshippers of baal, who sacrificed babies by scorching them to death.

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    I think we need to get our facts right before we take this as fact; here’s what I got from wiki and other forums…


    In human genetics, Haplogroup R1b is the most frequently occurring Y-chromosome haplogroup in Western Europe, parts of central Eurasia (for example Bashkortostan[3]), and in parts of sub-Saharan Central Africa (for example around Chad and Cameroon). R1b is also present at lower frequencies throughout Eastern Europe, Western Asia, Central Asia, and parts of North Africa. Due to European emigration it also reaches high frequencies in the Americas and Australia. While Western Europe is dominated by the R1b1b2 (R-M269) branch of R1b, the Chadic-speaking area in Africa is dominated by the branch known as R1b1a (R-V88). These represent two very successful "twigs" on a much bigger "family tree".

    http://en.wikipedia....roup_R1b_(Y-DNA)


    http://primarysources.newsvine.com/_...stern-european


    Analysis of the STR values provided in the article show the following (compared to the Atlantic Modal Haplotype data for my own family -Armenian Modal Haplotype values might show some variation):
    DYS 19 – 14 (? not clear)
    DYS 385a – 11 (R1b1)
    DYS 385b – 14 (R1b1)
    DYS 389i – 13
    DYS 389ii – 30
    DYS 390 – 24 (R1b1/R1b1c)
    DYS 391 – 11 (R1b1c)
    DYS 392 – 13 (R1b1)
    DYS 393 – 13 (R1b1)
    DYS 437 – 14 (? not clear)
    DYS 438 – 12
    DYS 439 – 10 (nm; range = 11-13)*
    DYS 448 – 19 (R1b1)
    DYS 456 – 15
    DYS 458 – 16
    DYS 635 – 23
    YGATAH4 – 11 (R1b1)
    Of the nine STRs that match from my records, 8 show values within the range of R1b1 or R1b1c. One, DYS 439 shows a value outside the range by 1 but is probably acceptable. IF - and that's a very big IF - these are valid data, 5 of the six markers identifying the AMH are correct and the 6th, DYS388, whose value would be 12 in the AMH, isn't shown. This would be enough to show a high probability of subject being AMH.

    -------------------

    Giving it some thought, the Hyksos ruling elite have, theoretically, been identified as Indo-Europeans (or a mixture of Semitic and Indo-European people) and the Hyksos ruled Lower Egypt during the 18th and 17th centuries BCE - the 14th Dynasty period. The Hyksos also occupied Upper Egypt at the beginning of the the 18th Dynasty, so it would be very interesting indeed if the 18th Dynasty was descended from the Hyksos Indo-European ruling class from either of those periods.

    There was intermarriage between the royal families of Egypt and Mittani by this point. I don't know if there was any between them and the Hittites yet, but if there were, that definitely gets you to Anatolia.

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    The egyptian did the same as we do: racemixing. And guess who Joseph, the advisor to the pharao was: A stupid jew.

    At the 25th dynasty you see a fully blown nigger on the throne and that was basically the end of egypt, after that came Alexander and his officers.

    Racemixing means the decline of a culture and civilization.

    Just look who is on the throne in the US and see what happens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocko View Post
    Quoted from http://www.eutimes.net/2010/06/king-...tern-european/



    That means another white civilisation. no negroes ever produced one.
    It is nice to be vindicated. As I said elsewhere, ancient civilizations had to
    be created by "white people", simply because modern day "whites" still
    demonstrate the ingenuity and organizational skills required to create and
    maintain an advanced society, while modern day non-whites clearly lack
    those skills.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tirannis View Post
    I think we need to get our facts right before we take this as fact; here’s what I got from wiki and other forums…


    In human genetics, Haplogroup R1b is the most frequently occurring Y-chromosome haplogroup in Western Europe, parts of central Eurasia (for example Bashkortostan[3]), and in parts of sub-Saharan Central Africa (for example around Chad and Cameroon). R1b is also present at lower frequencies throughout Eastern Europe, Western Asia, Central Asia, and parts of North Africa. Due to European emigration it also reaches high frequencies in the Americas and Australia. While Western Europe is dominated by the R1b1b2 (R-M269) branch of R1b, the Chadic-speaking area in Africa is dominated by the branch known as R1b1a (R-V88). These represent two very successful "twigs" on a much bigger "family tree".

    http://en.wikipedia....roup_R1b_(Y-DNA)


    http://primarysources.newsvine.com/_...stern-european


    Analysis of the STR values provided in the article show the following (compared to the Atlantic Modal Haplotype data for my own family -Armenian Modal Haplotype values might show some variation):
    DYS 19 – 14 (? not clear)
    DYS 385a – 11 (R1b1)
    DYS 385b – 14 (R1b1)
    DYS 389i – 13
    DYS 389ii – 30
    DYS 390 – 24 (R1b1/R1b1c)
    DYS 391 – 11 (R1b1c)
    DYS 392 – 13 (R1b1)
    DYS 393 – 13 (R1b1)
    DYS 437 – 14 (? not clear)
    DYS 438 – 12
    DYS 439 – 10 (nm; range = 11-13)*
    DYS 448 – 19 (R1b1)
    DYS 456 – 15
    DYS 458 – 16
    DYS 635 – 23
    YGATAH4 – 11 (R1b1)
    Of the nine STRs that match from my records, 8 show values within the range of R1b1 or R1b1c. One, DYS 439 shows a value outside the range by 1 but is probably acceptable. IF - and that's a very big IF - these are valid data, 5 of the six markers identifying the AMH are correct and the 6th, DYS388, whose value would be 12 in the AMH, isn't shown. This would be enough to show a high probability of subject being AMH.

    -------------------

    Giving it some thought, the Hyksos ruling elite have, theoretically, been identified as Indo-Europeans (or a mixture of Semitic and Indo-European people) and the Hyksos ruled Lower Egypt during the 18th and 17th centuries BCE - the 14th Dynasty period. The Hyksos also occupied Upper Egypt at the beginning of the the 18th Dynasty, so it would be very interesting indeed if the 18th Dynasty was descended from the Hyksos Indo-European ruling class from either of those periods.

    There was intermarriage between the royal families of Egypt and Mittani by this point. I don't know if there was any between them and the Hittites yet, but if there were, that definitely gets you to Anatolia.
    I'm not sure what the point of the above data is, ie, whether you are
    agreeing or not with the original post. But I would take anything on
    "wiki" with a grain of salt, since it is a creature of our favorite
    middle-eastern tribe.
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    I am not familiar with reading DNA.

    Does the DNA for Tut indicate in any sense racemixing?
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    Here is now a utube video which shows more information, also on his blood type which is typically european:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wccg...eature=related
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