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    Feds Vs. State Again in Suit Against Arizona Law

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100707/...cement_lawsuit

    A nice parable Sorry, I don't know the author.

    You have two families: Joe Legal and Jose Illegal. Both families have two parents, two children, and live in California .
    Joe Legal works in construction, has a Social Security Number and makes $25.00 per hour with taxes deducted.
    Jose Illegal also works in construction, has NO Social Security Number, and gets paid $15.00 cash 'under the table.'
    Ready? Now pay attention..
    Joe Legal: $25..00 per hour x 40 hours = $1000.00 per week, or $52,000.00 per year. Now take 30% away for state and federal tax; Joe Legal now has $31,231.00..
    Jose Illegal: $15.00 per hour x 40 hours = $600.00 per week, or $31,200.00 per year. Jose Illegal pays no taxes. Jose Illegal now has $31,200.00.
    Joe Legal pays medical and dental insurance with limited coverage for his family at $600.00 per month, or $7,200.00 per year. Joe Legal now has $24,031.00.
    Jose Illegal has full medical and dental coverage through the state and local clinics at a cost of $0.00 per year. Jose Illegal still has $31,200...00.
    Joe Legal makes too much money and is not eligible for food stamps or welfare. Joe Legal pays $500.00 per month for food, or $6,000.00 per year. Joe Legal now has $18,031.00.
    Jose Illegal has no documented income and is eligible for food stamps and welfare. Jose Illegal still has $31,200.00.
    Joe Legal pays rent of $1,200.00 per month, or $14,400.00 per year. Joe Legal now has $9,631.00.
    Jose Illegal receives a $500.00 per month federal rent subsidy. Jose Illegal pays out that $500.00 per month, or $6,000.00 per year. Jose Illegal still has $ 31,200.00.
    Joe Legal pays $200.00 per month, or $2,400.00 for insurance. Joe Legal now has $7,231.00.
    Jose Illegal says, "We don't need no stinkin' insurance!" and still has $31,200.00.
    Joe Legal has to make his $7,231.00 stretch to pay utilities, gasoline, etc.
    Jose Illegal has to make his $31,200.00 stretch to pay utilities,
    gasoline, and what he sends out of the country every month.
    Joe Legal now works overtime on Saturdays or gets a part time job after work.
    Jose Illegal has nights and weekends off to enjoy with his family.
    Joe Legal's and Jose Illegal's children both attend the same school. Joe Legal pays for his children's lunches while Jose Illegal's children get a government sponsored lunch. Jose Illegal's children have an after school ESL program. Joe Legal's children go home.
    Joe Legal and Jose Illegal both enjoy the same police and fire services, but Joe paid for them and Jose did not pay.

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    The honest one is the dumb one

    Maybe we should all become illegals in one or another country, this way one maybe get something back of what one paid for in his homecountry... at least my own emigration plans radically changed right now... I mean, all that paper stuff, getting a job prior to immigration... for what? As an illegal, you get everything blown into your a**...

    but wait, as a white, I might be bared from all that benefits...
    Ein Leben ist nichts, deine Sprosse sind alles
    Aller Sturm nimmt nichts, weil dein Wurzelgriff zu stark ist
    und endet meine Frist, weiss ich dass du noch da bist
    Gefürchtet von der Zeit, mein Baum, mein Stamm in Ewigkeit

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    Quote Originally Posted by velvet View Post
    ...but wait, as a white, I might be bared from all that benefits...
    As a white you are very right!

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    Here is the future:

    Welcome To Maywood, Mexico (SoCal)
    By Roger Hedgecock
    7-6-10

    Boasting a population that is 97% Hispanic, more than half foreign born, and 40% illegal, the Los Angeles County, Calif., incorporated city of Maywood has achieved the Reconquista goal. It is now as lawless and chaotic as any place in Mexico. Maywood is a warning to every city and town in America.

    The Maywood City Council announced this week that after years of radical policies, corruption and scandal, the city was broke and all city employees would be laid off and essential city services contracted out to neighboring cities or to L.A. County government.

    How did this happen? Until recently, Maywood was the model for "brown power" politics.

    Maywood was the first California city with an elected Hispanic City Council, one of the first "sanctuary" cities for illegal aliens, the first city to pass a resolution calling for a boycott of Arizona after that state passed a law to enforce federal immigration laws, the first California city to order its police department not to enforce state laws requiring drivers to have licenses to drive, the first American city to call on Congress to grant amnesty to all illegals.

    Council meetings were conducted in Spanish. Maywood was the leader in the peaceful, democratic achievement of the La Raza goal to take power in the U.S.

    The City of Maywood started out quite differently. Back after World War II, Maywood was a booming blue-collar town with good jobs, a multi-ethnic suburb of Los Angeles.

    On the 25th anniversary in 1949 of Maywood's incorporation as a city, the town celebrated with a beard-growing contest, a rodeo, and wrestling matches in City Park. Chrysler operated an assembly plant there until 1971.

    But the early 1970s saw these industrial jobs in aerospace, auto and furniture manufacturing, and food processing evaporate under the pressure of higher taxes, increased local and state regulation, and the attraction of cheaper land and cheaper labor elsewhere.

    The multi-ethnic Maywood of the post-war years was transformed in the '80s and '90s by wave after wave of Hispanic immigrants, many of them illegal.

    In August 2006, a "Save Our State" anti-illegal immigration rally in Maywood drew hundreds of protesters-but a larger number of defenders of illegal immigration. The pro-illegal protesters carried signs which read "We are Indigenous! The ONLY owners of this Continent!" and "Racist Pilgrims Go Home" and "All Europeans are Illegal Here."

    According to newspaper reports at the time, objectors to illegal aliens were subject to physical attacks. A 70-year-old man was "slashed," a woman attacked, and cars vandalized. Pro-illegal demonstrators raised the Mexican flag at the U.S. Post Office.

    The illegal population and their sympathizers became increasingly radicalized. Elections to the City Council saw "assimilationist" incumbent Hispanic council members ousted by La Raza supporting radical challengers.

    For years, the Maywood City Council authorized police checkpoints to stop drunk driving. Drivers without licenses had their cars impounded. Illegals in California cannot get drivers licenses. By 2005, the number of such impounds were in the hundreds. A community campaign was launched forcing the City Council to suspend the checkpoints.

    Cars were still being impounded whenever a police traffic-violation stop resulted in a driver without a license. Felipe Aguirre, a community activist with Comite Pro-Uno, an "immigration service center," coordinated a new campaign against any impounds. He was elected in 2005 to the City Council. He is the mayor of Maywood today.

    Aguirre and a new majority of the council dismantled the Traffic Department. Illegals were given overnight-parking permits and impounds stopped. You didn't need a license to drive in Maywood. The Los Angeles Times wrote glowingly of this "progress" in a story entitled "Welcome to Maywood, Where Roads Open Up For Immigrants".

    The Maywood Police Department was restructured by the new council. A new chief and new officers were hired. Later it turned out that many of the new officers had previously been fired from other law enforcement agencies for a variety of infractions. The Maywood P.D. was known as the "Department of Second Chances."

    Among those hired was a former L.A. Sheriff's deputy terminated for abusing jail inmates; a former LAPD officer fired for intimidating a witness; and an ex-Huntington Park officer charged with negligently discharging a handgun and driving drunk.

    Even the L.A. Times called the Maywood Police Department a "haven for misfit cops." Their story alleged that a veteran officer was extorting sex from relatives of a criminal fugitive; that another officer tried to run over the president of the Maywood Police Commission; and that another officer has impregnated a teenage police-explorer scout.

    Charges of corruption and favoritism led to one recall of city council members and threats of more recalls are heard to this day.

    Maywood is represented in the state Senate by Democrat "One Bill" Gil Cedillo. He earned the nickname by introducing every year in the state legislature a bill to grant drivers licenses to illegals. Maywood is represented in Congress by Democrat Lucille Roybal-Allard, a staunch advocate of amnesty for illegals.

    Today, Maywood is broke. Its police department dismantled along with all other city departments and personnel. Only the city council remains and a city manager to manage the contracts with other agencies for city services in Maywood.

    Maywood is the warning of what happens when illegal immigrants, resisting assimilation as Americans, bring with their growing numbers the corruption and the radical politics of their home countries. Add the radical home-grown anti-Americanism of Hispanic "leaders" and groups like La Raza and you get schools where learning is replaced with indoctrination, business and jobs replaced by welfare and gangs, and a poisonous stew of entitlement politics.

    In too many American communities, this sad tale is all too familiar.

    http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=37671
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    I've just sent the first parable out to several friends and relatives, people need to see this kind of thing in terms of numbers, which everyone understands. The second story is even more heartbreaking. Arm yourselves and prepare to defend your own cities against this kind of parasitism.

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    Nebraska town bars illegal immigrants from jobs and renting propertyFremont in Nebraska has passed laws meaning illegal immigrants cannot work or rent property within its boundaries
    (76)Tweet this (48)Ed Pilkington in New York guardian.co.uk, Tuesday 22 June 2010 19.18 BST Article history
    A home-made sign urges people to back a ban on giving jobs or renting property to illegal immigrants in Fremont, Nebraska. Photograph: Dave Weaver/AP


    A small town in the pig-farming and cattle rearing great plains of Nebraska has opened the latest frontline in the battle over immigration by voting effectively to banish all illegal immigrants.

    Under ordinance 5165, which passed in a special election yesterday, undocumented immigrants in Fremont will lose the right to rent homes and take up jobs. A new system of licences for property and business will be introduced to catch out those without proper resident status.

    The measure was passed on a turn-out of 45% of the population, with 3,906 in favour and 2,908 against.

    Fremont has relatively few immigrants: in a 2008 census, 4.4% of its 25,000 population were recorded as foreign born, compared with the national figure of 12.6%. Most are Hispanics.


    The text of the proposal the town voted on. Link to this interactive Those in favour of the ban argued that lack of action by the federal government meant the community had to act on its own. Scott Getzschman, a local councillor, told the Fremont Tribune: "People are fed up with the fact that the federal government will not take this issue head on."

    Opponents said that voters had been influenced by a mood of hostility towards immigrants that was sweeping America. Krista Kjeldgaard, a member of One Fremont – One Future, said: "Nationally, there's been a lot of hoop-la and a lot of rhetoric used over immigration. It feeds off people's fears."

    In its campaigning, One Fremont warned the town that if it passed the measure it would pay heavily. Other small towns across the US that have passed similar laws, such as Hazelton in Pennsylvania and Farmers Branch in Texas, have had to spend up to $5m (£3.36m) in lawyers' fees after the new rules were thrown out as unconstitutional by the courts.

    Fremont council is braced for an increase in property taxes and possible cuts in public services to cover the cost of defending the ordinance against challenges. The American Civil Liberties Union has already announced it intends to oppose the measure.

    The Fremont move is just the latest in a spate of community efforts to restrict immigration, the most extreme of which is a state-wide law in Arizona that starts at the end of July requiring police to check the identification of anyone they suspect of being an illegal immigrant. The Obama administration is expected to file a lawsuit against the law next week.

    It is obvious that ACLU and other such jewish organisation are enemies of the people. Though they are often quoted in jew-media they apparently lose more and more ground.
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    Most of you have more wisdom about this than me, so any predictions on how this will come out? Do the feds ever lose this kind of thing?

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    Its very rare nowadays for the federal government to disclose anything it does not want to, especially if there is not any wide ranging public support of it. Hel, its rare for the supreme court to interpret the constitution correctly unless there is public pressure on them to do so. I minored in political science in college, and was disgusted to see the lengths people have to go to to find any semblance of truth from those in power. It often takes years for any lawsuit to get to the supreme court, and most cases are never heard unless its a big national topic. In this case, I wouldn't expect the attorney general to reopen the case unless a huge amount of Americans, along with their "representatives" called for it.

    For example, Ron Paul introduced a bill to examine the federal reserve's financial records of where the bail out money went. I know that I personally along with thousands of other people signed a petition and asked our representatives to support it. Its still stuck in committee and its been probably six to eight months now.

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    I think the elections in November will determine which way we go. It seems that Obama will be blocked afterwards to do anymore damage.

    They will put the Arizona law on ice. There it will rot. That will only make Arizonas either more angry or more complacent. Anyway, the immigrants lost already. There is going to be more about them, no matter what the nigger in the white house is going to do.

    As I can see the anger is growing nationwide and as the government is against the people it will turn into an anti-government thing. The incumbents who helped to produce this situation might just get out of it wholesale. The anger is boiling and we will see how the NWO is going to handle it. My guess is they give in a bit to let the steam off and sneak something through so they get their will.
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    ALIPAC Asks For Safe Passage Out of America for Illegals
    Posted on Tuesday, July 27 @ 12:44:09 EDT
    Topic: Americans for Legal Immigration PAC
    July 27, 2010

    CONTACT: Americans for Legal Immigration PAC
    (866) 703-0864 WilliamG@alipac.us

    Americans for Legal Immigration PAC (ALIPAC) is asking American citizens to contact the White House and the Department of Homeland Security to request that "safe departure" border checkpoints be established to offer safe passage to illegal immigrants who are leaving Arizona and leaving the United States in response to state level enforcement of existing federal laws and Constitutional provisions.

    Arizona is reporting a mass exodus of illegal aliens who are selling their property and moving to other states or back to Central and South America. This pattern of a peaceful and gradual exodus mirrors reports from other states that have passed immigration enforcement laws.

    Illegal immigrants detected trying to get into or out of the United States at border patrol checkpoints will be barred from applying to legally immigrate to the US for a minimum of ten years. Safe departure checkpoints would allow illegal alien families to depart the US without fear or hindrance.

    "We are asking the Obama administration to designate border checkpoints that illegal immigrants can use to leave the US, without fear of detention or prosecution for immigration crimes," said William Gheen. "The peaceful and gradual exodus of illegals from Arizona shows there is no need for Comprehensive Immigration Reform Amnesty. Comprehensive Immigration Enforcement works and has the desired effect without mass deportations."

    Americans for Legal Immigration PAC represents the views of a vast majority of Americans who simply want our existing border and immigration laws adequately enforced. Increased enforcement on the state level, combined with the bad economy, has led to a reversal in illegal immigration.

    While thousands of illegal aliens, many carrying drugs, sneak into America with paramilitary gangs each night, many more are leaving America than are coming in according to government sources, pro-amnesty sources, and pro-enforcement sources. Illegals are leaving because of the economy, state level enforcement, and increasing animus from the American population representing all races.

    "This is about the only situation we would ever advocate that our immigration laws be waived, we want to encourage the illegals to leave America on their own and thus we ask Obama to provide them safe passage out of America," said William Gheen.

    If the Obama administration will designate "Safe Departure" border crossings and release these locations to the Spanish media, more illegals will leave in an orderly fashion, instead of trying risky dessert crossings, paying money to the cartels for passage south, or fleeing to other states.

    Citizens can make their appeals to Obama and Homeland Security by calling White House 202-456-1414 and DHS 202-282-8000

    http://www.alipac.us/article5501.html
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