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    "Outrage" Over IQ Tests for Immigrants

    Plans by German politicians for immigrants to be forced to undergo IQ tests have led to widespread outrage.

    Integration Minister Maria Böhmer (CDU) described the suggestion as “erroneous and discriminatory”.

    The Home Affairs spokesman of the Berlin CDU, Peter Trapp, and the CSU’s European expert Markus Ferber have recently spoken out in favour of IQ tests.

    But Böhmer said: “The demand for IQ tests for immigrants is itself not particularly intelligent."

    She added that to categorise immigrants by intelligence would be discriminatory, and attacked the idea for being hugely prejudiced. Instead of dividing people, effort should be made to build stronger communities, she said.

    “This is not what a welcoming culture, that benefits our country, looks like.”

    The FDP also described the demands as ambiguous and called for them to be rejected. But those behind the controversial plans defended them, saying that they do not concern an abstract definition of intelligence, but instead define criteria which help to make immigration a success.

    Peter Trapp had told BILD that intelligence tests for immigrants should not be a taboo subject, saying: “We have to establish immigration criteria that benefit our country.”

    Under such a scheme, the criteria would include good vocational training and qualifications, as well as intelligence as measured by a test.

    Markus Ferber spoke in favour of a pan-European system for dealing with immigration, and pointed to Canada as an example.

    Canada is far ahead of us in this respect, they require that immigrant children have a higher IQ than the national average.” Ferber had previously told BILD that humane reasons such as uniting families should not, in the long term, be the only criteria for immigration.

    The SPD, Greens and Linke parties have criticised the coalition for what they describe as showing a lack of understanding regarding immigration.
    Germany rejects immigrant IQ test proposal


    Politicians in controversial plans - Outrage over IQ tests for immigrants - News - Bild.de

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    Doesn't really seem like that bad of an idea. Do you really want a bunch of ignorant immigrants in your country? I wish they would do that in the states. However, we would still have a problem. There are already massive amounts of illegals in this country.

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    I don't see how you could possibly be against it considering that IQ is a predictor of just about every category by which one could judge a successful immigrant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by William Frost View Post
    Doesn't really seem like that bad of an idea. Do you really want a bunch of ignorant immigrants in your country?
    Rather a bunch of sheeps than a bunch of wolves.

    At first sight, this looks like a very good idea. And it could be if it decreases the amount of immigrants taken in every year and leads to less immigration from alien parts of the world, especially the Near East and Africa. Though, it is not certain it would.

    You might end up with a very resourceful and intelligent ethnic opposition in your country, instead of a very poor and ignorant ethnic opposition. I know what I would have chosen.

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    Ah yes, and so we come to the age old problem of that certain groups do not want that you make demands of quality on would be immigrants. But at the same time proclaiming that those same immigrants will benefit the country if the are let in unchecked.

    These immigrants and children that would be effected by these measures are usually more likely to make demands on the social benefits system, are more criminal and usual only do low skilled jobs that would become more and more absolute in high-tech society. See for example what mechanization had done for farm work. There is much less demand for low-skilled labor there now then there was before industrialization, same actually goes for industry.

    So why do these parties protest against IQ-tests for immigrants, if doing so would actually be an economic benefit for the country. First of all these low-IQ immigrants because they are more likely to become depended on welfare and other government programs are more likely to became a stable voting block for them. Instead of native worker that climbs up and then left wing policies become a treat to him. If you look at from this way, the left have a strong interest in keeping people poor.

    Second is the fact that these immigrants are used as pawns in the cultural warfare to undermine, in this case, German culture. Which of course is already under assault for a long time. Alto here it is a two-front assault where both fronts have different objectives. One is the cultural-Marxist one, and the other a salafist one.
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