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    Quote Originally Posted by Midgård View Post
    I hate the governing politicians of my country. Anna Ardin is an active "social democrat" and rabid feminist.

    I wont exclude a CIA conspiration but everyone should know that this could just be one of the many feminist lies that poisons Sweden. CIA does not necessarliy have anything to do with it.
    May be so.
    But people like her, are exactly who the CIA, looks for to Propagate Psychological operations and Black Op, Clandestine Operations.

    And you must remember the US, government has been doing this sort of stuff for a long, time.

    I would bet money that she is in contact or has at least been influenced by a handler of the CIA, that seen they were both going in the same direction.


    Here's her recipe for revenge:

    7 Steps to Legal Revenge by Anna Ardin

    January 19, 2010

    I’ve been thinking about some revenge over the last few days and came across a very good side who inspired me to this seven-point revenge instruction in Swedish.

    Steg 1 / Step 1

    Tänk igenom väldigt noga om du verkligen ska hämnas. Consider very carefully if you really must take revenge. Det är nästan alltid bättre att förlåta än att hämnas

    It is almost always better to forgive than to avenge

    Steg 2 / Step 2

    Tänk igenom varför du ska hämnas. Think about why you want revenge. Du behöver alltså inte bara vara på det klara med vem du ska hämnas på utan också varför. Hämnd ska aldrig riktas mot bara en person, utan även möta en viss handling.

    You need to be clear about who to take revenge on, as well as why. Revenge is never directed against only one person, but also the actions of the person.

    Steg 3 / Step 3

    Proportionalitetsprincipen.

    The principle of proportionality.

    Kom ihåg att hämnden inte bara ska matcha dådet i storlek utan även i art.

    Remember that revenge will not only match the deed in size but also in nature.

    En bra hämnd är kopplad till det som gjorts mot dig.

    A good revenge is linked to what has been done against you.

    Om du till exempel vill hämnas på någon som varit otrogen eller som dumpat dig, så bör straffet ha något med dejting/sex/trohet att göra.

    For example if you want revenge on someone who cheated or who dumped you, you should use a punishment with dating/sex/fidelity involved.

    Steg 4 / Step 4

    Gör en brainstorm kring lämpliga åtgärder för kategorin av hämnd du är ute efter. För att fortsätta exemplet ovan så kan du paja ditt offers nuvarande relation, fixa så att dennes nye partner är otrogen eller se till att han får en galning efter sig.

    Do a brainstorm of appropriate measures for the category of revenge you’re after. To continue the example above, you can sabotage your victim’s current relationship, such as getting his new partner to be unfaithful or ensure that he gets a madman after him.

    Använd din fantasi!

    Use your imagination!

    Steg 5 / Step 5

    Tänk ut hur du kan hämnas systematiskt.

    Figure out how you can systematically take revenge.

    Kanske kan en serie brev och foton som får den nya att tro att ni ännu ses bättre än bara en stor lögn vid ett enstaka tillfälle?

    Send your victim a series of letters and photographs that make your victim’s new partner believe that you are still together which is better than to tell just one big lie on one single occasion

    Steg 6 / Step 6

    Ranka dina systematiska hämndscheman från låg till hög i termer av troligt lyckat genomförande, krävd insats från dig samt grad av tillfredsställelse om du lyckas.

    Rank your systematic revenge schemes from low to high in terms of likely success, required input from you, and degree of satisfaction when you succeed.

    Den ideala hämnden ligger givetvis så högt som möjligt i dessa staplar, men ofta kan en ökad insats av arbete och kapital ge säkrare output för de andra två, egentligen viktigare parametrarna.

    The ideal, of course, is a revenge as strong as possible but this requires a lot of hard work and effort for it to turn out exactly as you want it to.

    Step 7 / Step 7

    Skrid till verket. Get to work. Och kom ihåg vilket ditt mål är medan du opererar, se till att ditt offer får lida på samma sätt som han fick dig att lida.

    And remember what your goals are while you are operating, ensure that your victim will suffer the same way as he made you suffer.

    Entry Filed under: politik . Entry Filed under: politics . Taggar: hämnd , revenge , laglig hämnd , hämnas , återgälda , straffa .

    Tags: revenge , revenge , revenge lawful , avenge , reciprocate , punish.


    Apparently, Ardin was either one of the people or the person who invited Assange to Sweden:

    The politics of Ardin are bizarre to me, but Sweden is different from Wasilla. I think.

    And here is information on her internship/employment with the Swedish government. It is found on pages three through five (PDF).

    From the comment thread, it appears that this story is going to get very complex, very strange this coming week. Even though Ardin's possibly having been put up to making her tentative complaint to the authorities by some agency representing the U.S. government appears to be unlikely, we may be about to learn a lot about how complex underground politics in Sweden have become in the early 21st century.

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    That Wikileaks site is pretty good i must say....i just looked at it and wrote my name in the search function and it actually told me what i was getting for christmas........weird.

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    Regarding Assange: The charges seem bogus. Not sure what the agenda is of the accusers.

    What has gone wrong in Sweden where so many women are radicalised, rabid frothing-at-the-mouth feminazis? Where does all the hatred, anger and obsession with man-hating come from?

    Are they bored? Do they have too much "freedom" and have they taken to exercising that "freedom" to its extreme conclusion? (ie hating white men, loving Islamic extremists etc) Are they taught or encouraged by ZOG?

    Did Swedish men perhaps "tolerate" this situation for too long, pressured into being "reasonable" and "behaving correctly" when instead they should be clamping down on this idiocy and its causes?

    Does anybody have more insight into this bizarre Swedish phenomenon? It's of course present in other EU countries as well but from what one can gather via the media not as radical and prevalent.

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    Casualties vs. Rape

    What the pictures don't show (selectively edited by whomever) that those "kids" were armed to the teeth with AK-47/56's. RPG's and hand held surface to air missles. Along with cell phone detonators for IED's. When one touches a weapon they themselves become a combatant. Regardless of age or gender. Welcome to the modern battlefied...

    As for Assange, everyone knows he can't keep his @3$#* in his pants and at times likes to force it on others... Sweden is just trying to enforce it's Laws.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wittwer View Post
    What the pictures don't show (selectively edited by whomever) that those "kids" were armed to the teeth with AK-47/56's. RPG's and hand held surface to air missles. Along with cell phone detonators for IED's. When one touches a weapon they themselves become a combatant. Regardless of age or gender. Welcome to the modern battlefied...

    As for Assange, everyone knows he can't keep his @3$#* in his pants and at times likes to force it on others... Sweden is just trying to enforce it's Laws.

    How does 'everyone' know that? I'd never even heard of him until yesterday (when I first viewed this thread). But even if I had heard of him, how on Earth would anyone who doesn't personally know him, or more specifically, anyone hasn't had any sexual interactions with him, have any idea what his style might be?

    As for the footage, the US committed itself to a politically correct war. No returning fire until they've taken out half your platoon, setting up counselling centres in towns they've just firestriked, and absolutely no prememptive shooting of any suspected terrorists, bazooka wielding or no, until you've completed request form #34334/A, had it signed and co-signed, stamped by your CO, stamped by his CO, created copies in written and digital form, and submitted for review by the ethical committee of cultural understanding and respect to be returned within 10 working days. Obviously, it's a pathetic way to fight a war, but it's the one the US has chosen, so it's funny to see them try to fight a war like a normal army when they think no one's watching.

    The 'war on terror' is 100% political strategy, 0% military strategy, so people are commenting on how the US F-ed up politically, regardless of the fact that shooting civilians even suspected of harbouring weapons is a perfectly reasonable tactic for any army that doesn't pretend to be holier than thou when it's carpet bombing small farming villages, but that excludes the US military in Iraq.

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    I am not fond of the wars we are waging in the mideast or feminists. With that said, the footage he didn't edited out clearly shows the targets were armed. They were legit in the eyes of the law of land warfare to be targets. Regardless if anyone likes it or not, those are the facts regarding that attack.

    As far as the rape allegations, I have no idea. I will say there are a LOT of false rape allegations rolling around out there in all countries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schaferhund View Post
    I am not fond of the wars we are waging in the mideast or feminists. With that said, the footage he didn't edited out clearly shows the targets were armed. They were legit in the eyes of the law of land warfare to be targets. Regardless if anyone likes it or not, those are the facts regarding that attack.
    LOL!
    Then why has the army confirmed that the video was accurate, and that the guy was carrying a camera, NOT a gun.

    Wait, Ill answer that for you.
    Because in an international war crimes court their ass will be going to the lethal injection room, because they could not prove in court.


    Quote Originally Posted by Schaferhund View Post
    As far as the rape allegations, I have no idea. I will say there are a LOT of false rape allegations rolling around out there in all countries.
    The Fact that it is there; is enough for me, considering the history and reputation of the CIA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoyBatty View Post
    Regarding Assange: The charges seem bogus. Not sure what the agenda is of the accusers.

    What has gone wrong in Sweden where so many women are radicalised, rabid frothing-at-the-mouth feminazis? Where does all the hatred, anger and obsession with man-hating come from?

    Are they bored? Do they have too much "freedom" and have they taken to exercising that "freedom" to its extreme conclusion? (ie hating white men, loving Islamic extremists etc) Are they taught or encouraged by ZOG?

    Did Swedish men perhaps "tolerate" this situation for too long, pressured into being "reasonable" and "behaving correctly" when instead they should be clamping down on this idiocy and its causes?

    Does anybody have more insight into this bizarre Swedish phenomenon? It's of course present in other EU countries as well but from what one can gather via the media not as radical and prevalent.

    Honestly I think the Jew/Communist of the post WW2 world, were determined to see that Hitlers "Master Race" was never developed, and they rushed into Scandinavian countries to push their social engineering BS.

    This is reason enough alone that the US should have kept OUT of WW2. Because what ever bad Hitler would have done he would have killed out most of the Leftist Marxist.

    That alone would have made the current world a better place to live in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamar Fox View Post
    How does 'everyone' know that? I'd never even heard of him until yesterday (when I first viewed this thread). But even if I had heard of him, how on Earth would anyone who doesn't personally know him, or more specifically, anyone hasn't had any sexual interactions with him, have any idea what his style might be?
    Well!
    There is one person that knows for sure which Scum Bag, in the US CIA she spoke to.

    And that is Anna Ardin!

    I'm sure with the right sort of "Convincing" she would tell the truth.


    Quote Originally Posted by Hamar Fox View Post
    As for the footage, the US committed itself to a politically correct war. No returning fire until they've taken out half your platoon, setting up counselling centres in towns they've just firestriked, and absolutely no prememptive shooting of any suspected terrorists, bazooka wielding or no, until you've completed request form #34334/A, had it signed and co-signed, stamped by your CO, stamped by his CO, created copies in written and digital form, and submitted for review by the ethical committee of cultural understanding and respect to be returned within 10 working days. Obviously, it's a pathetic way to fight a war, but it's the one the US has chosen, so it's funny to see them try to fight a war like a normal army when they think no one's watching.
    Yeah the current US Armed Forces could give the USSR a run for its money in stupid policy, ignorant tactics, and what have you.
    What is even more hilarious, is they are the guys that armed the Taliban, to wear down the Soviets into economic collapse. Ether these are the Stupidest Military commanders in the history of the world, or they are deliberately subverting the US economy.

    Personally I'm betting on the Latter.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamar Fox View Post
    The 'war on terror' is 100% political strategy, 0% military strategy, so people are commenting on how the US F-ed up politically, regardless of the fact that shooting civilians even suspected of harbouring weapons is a perfectly reasonable tactic for any army that doesn't pretend to be holier than thou when it's carpet bombing small farming villages, but that excludes the US military in Iraq.
    Yeah!
    The "WAR ON TERROR" has become a major joke at this point. At least Vietnam was against real communist. What we now have is a war to set up a global police state. The thing that really chaps my ass is the idiots that are doing it have the nerve to wear american flags.

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    WikiLeaks Cables Expose Pakistan Nuclear Fears


    US and UK diplomats warn of terrorists getting hold of fissile material and of Pakistan-India nuclear exchange


    American and British diplomats fear Pakistan's nuclear weapons programme could lead to fissile material falling into the hands of terrorists or a devastating nuclear exchange with India.

    The latest cache of US embassy cables released by WikiLeaks contains warnings that Pakistan is rapidly building its nuclear stockpile despite the country's growing instability and "pending economic catastrophe".

    Mariot Leslie, a senior British Foreign Office official, told US diplomats in September 2009: "The UK has deep concerns about the safety and security of Pakistan's nuclear weapons," according to one cable classified "secret/noforn [no foreign nationals]".

    Seven months earlier, the US ambassador to Islamabad, Anne Patterson, cabled to Washington: "Our major concern is not having an Islamic militant steal an entire weapon but rather the chance someone working in government of Pakistan facilities could gradually smuggle enough material out to eventually make a weapon".

    The leak of classified US diplomatic correspondence exposes in fine detail the deep tensions between Washington and Islamabad over a broad range of issues, including counter-terrorism, Afghanistan and finance, as well as the nuclear question. US concern over Pakistan's bomb programme was spelled out in an intelligence briefing in 2008. "Despite pending economic catastrophe, Pakistan is producing nuclear weapons at a faster rate than any other country in the world," the secret cable said.

    Leslie, director general of defence and intelligence at the Foreign Office, made clear the UK shared these anxieties when she spoke to US diplomats at a London arms control meeting in September 2009. The Pakistanis were worried the US "will drop in and take their nukes", she said, according to a US cable to Washington. Pakistan was now prepared to accept "nuclear safety help" from British technicians, but only under the auspices of the International Atomic Energy Agency.

    The cable said Leslie thought nuclear proliferation was the greater danger to the world, but it "ranks lower than terrorism on the public's list of perceived threats".

    Another senior British official at the meeting, Jon Day, the Ministry of Defence's director general for security policy, said recent intelligence indicated Pakistan was "not going in a good direction".

    The Russians shared concerns that Pakistan was "highly unstable". Yuri Korolev, from the Russian foreign ministry, told US officials: "Islamists are not only seeking power in Pakistan but are also trying to get their hands on nuclear materials."

    Speaking in February in Washington, he called for the problem of Pakistani– nuclear sites to be addressed in ongoing missile control talks, claiming: "Over the last few years extremists have attacked vehicles that carry staff to and from these facilities. Some were killed and a number were abducted and there has been no trace seen of them."

    He said: "There are 120,000-130,000 people directly involved in Pakistan's nuclear and missile programmes … There is no way to guarantee that all are 100% loyal and reliable."

    He claimed extremists were now recruiting more easily: "Pakistan has had to hire people to protect nuclear facilities that have especially strict religious beliefs, and recently the general educational and cultural levels in Pakistan has been falling."

    These fears are expressed in the secret state department files against a backdrop of Pakistani determination to build more nuclear warheads.

    A Chinese foreign minister, He Yafei, sought to explain to the Americans why Pakistan was blocking fissile material control talks. At a London meeting in 2009, he said: "The underlying problem … is that India and Pakistan view each other as enemies. Nuclear weapons are crucial to Pakistan. Indeed, a Pakistani military leader said his army was no match for the Indian army."

    US diplomats in Islamabad were told Pakistan was working on producing smaller, tactical nuclear weapons that could be used on the battlefield against Indian troops.

    "The result of this trend is the need for greater stocks of fissile material … Strategic considerations point Pakistan in the direction of a larger nuclear force that requires a greater amount of fissile material, Pakistani officials argue."

    The US conducted its own secret analysis of India's military contingency plans, which are codenamed Cold Start. India has said that if sufficiently provoked, it would mount a rapid invasion of Pakistan.

    The US said in a cable that it doubted the Indian army was capable of doing so: "It is the collective judgment of the mission that India would likely encounter very mixed results. Indian forces could have significant problems consolidating initial gains due to logistical difficulties and slow reinforcement."

    But the US ambassador to India, Tim Roemer, warned in February that for India to launch Cold Start, would be to "roll the nuclear dice". It could trigger the world's first use of nuclear weapons since Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

    "Indian leaders no doubt realise that, although Cold Start is designed to punish Pakistan in a limited manner without triggering a nuclear response, they cannot be sure whether Pakistani leaders will in fact refrain from such a response."
    Pakistan 'in tatters'

    A senior US intelligence official was "unrelentingly gloomy" about Pakistan, the current safe haven for al-Qaida in the Afghanistan war, during a private briefing of Nato representatives.

    Peter Lavoy, national intelligence officer for south Asia, concluded in November 2008 that nuclear-armed Pakistan's economy was "in tatters" and the country could "completely lose control of its Pashtun territories over the next few years", according to a leaked US cable.

    More than a third of people were unemployed or underemployed, he said.

    "Pakistan's population is becoming less and less educated, the country lacks sufficient energy and clean water resources to serve its population, and there is minimal foreign investment."

    A few months later, in April 2009, Patterson was slightly less gloomy, saying Pakistan was not a "failed state".

    "We nonetheless recognise that the challenges it confronts are dire. The government is losing more and more territory every day to foreign and domestic militant groups; deteriorating law and order in turn is undermining economic recovery. The bureaucracy is settling into third-world mediocrity, as demonstrated by some corruption and a limited capacity to implement or articulate policy."

    She said: "Extremism … is no longer restricted to the border area. We are seeing young Punjabi men turn up in [the tribal areas] and Afghanistan as fighters recruited from areas of southern Punjab where poverty, illiteracy and despair create a breeding ground for extremism."

    The good news was that President Asif Ali Zardari "while far from perfect", was "pro-American and anti-extremist; we believe he is our best ally in the government", she said.

    This January, however, the US special envoy to Afghanistan and Pakistan, Richard Holbrooke, told Indian government officials in Delhi that: "the army was the key decision-maker while President Zardari was increasingly sidelined". He said the civilian government had a limited capacity to move against groups behind the Mumbai terror attacks in 2008.

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