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    Nazis for Israel: a New Neo-Nazi Organization That Supports Jews

    German neo-Nazis: We're pro-Israel, condemn anti-Semitism


    Nazis against anti-Semitism? As bizarre as that sounds, a group of Germans which calls itself "National Socialists For Israel" launched its Web site in support of Israel.

    "Stop the hatred of the Jewish people," the Web site reads. "The Jews are a healthy, strong nation."

    The organization - whose members have yet to reveal themselves to the public - claims that Israel's right to exist is anchored in the principles of social Darwinism, the same principles which the Nazis adopted prior to the Second World War.

    "Israel earned the right to live among the nations [after emerging] from unending wars," the group writes on the site. "Israel also has a right to exist. This nation also has culture... The nation of Israel is appreciated... It is our duty, as neo-Nazis, to defend this supreme success. Not just for the German people and the European cultural sphere, but also, especially, for Israel."

    As such, "Nazis for Israel" also leveled criticism at their colleagues in the neo-Nazi National Democratic Party (NPD), calling them "politicos, cowards, and reactionaries."

    "Show us proof of a Jewish plot to dominate the world," they wrote in a rare manifesto which was posted on their Web site.

    These unusual statements on the internet compliment the group's other public campaigns, including the dissemination of bumper stickers. One of the stickers features a picture of Reinhard Heydrich, the senior Nazi official who chaired the Wansee Conference where the Final Solution was hatched. Underneath the photo reads: "As a Nazi, I'm a Zionist."

    Another sticker shows a photo of Israel Defense Forces soldiers during the Second Lebanon War under the heading: "2,000 years of struggling to survive - respect to those worthy of it."

    In terms of the group's attitude towards the Holocaust, the organization says: "We must view what is referred to as 'the Holocaust' within the context of acts of self-defense undertaken by nations under threat." It added, however, "that there is no justification for it." Instead, the Nazis ought to have supported the Zionist cause, the group states.

    The group claims it held its first meeting of activists in Berlin last month. It said the meeting touched on issues ranging from "solidarity with Israel, anti-Semitism, capitalism, and Islam."

    http://nasofi.blogspot.com/


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    I wonder what Hitler would have made of this...

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    In Germany everything exists. Pro-Israel Neo-Nazis, Anti-Israel Neo-Nazis, Pro-Israel Antifascists, Anti-Israel Antifascists. We even have the so called "Anti-Germans", which are Germans who say that Germany deserved Death and shouldn't exist at all.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Boche View Post
    In Germany everything exists. Pro-Israel Neo-Nazis, Anti-Israel Neo-Nazis, Pro-Israel Antifascists, Anti-Israel Antifascists.
    Reminiscent of the USA. I once came across a web site of homosexual Nazis in Southern CA who preached the superiority of homosexuals. Homosexuals allegedly have a superior brain, they argued.

    We even have the so called "Anti-Germans", which are Germans who say that Germany deserved Death and shouldn't exist at all.
    They should give a shining example, practice what they preach, and start with themselves.

    Quote Originally Posted by Heiliger Tod View Post
    I wonder what Hitler would have made of this...
    Antisemitism forms part of the core of Hitlerism and is inseparably linked to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heiliger Tod View Post
    I wonder what Hitler would have made of this...
    Hitler would have obviously cringed, since he was a well known hater of Jews. I believe reading Mein Kampf is enough to realize that.
    However, it is not to say that National Socialism is incompatible with Philosemitism. Their version of National Socialism is Jewish National Socialism, also known as Zionism:

    "Israel earned the right to live among the nations [after emerging] from unending wars," the group writes on the site. "Israel also has a right to exist. This nation also has culture... The nation of Israel is appreciated... It is our duty, as neo-Nazis, to defend this supreme success. Not just for the German people and the European cultural sphere, but also, especially, for Israel."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Erhard View Post
    Reminiscent of the USA. I once came across a web site of homosexual Nazis in Southern CA who preached the superiority of homosexuals. Homosexuals allegedly have a superior brain, they argued.
    Source requested

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boche View Post
    In Germany everything exists. Pro-Israel Neo-Nazis, Anti-Israel Neo-Nazis, Pro-Israel Antifascists, Anti-Israel Antifascists. We even have the so called "Anti-Germans", which are Germans who say that Germany deserved Death and shouldn't exist at all.




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    You forgot the "I'm not German, I'm a citizen of world" variety.: Try that one in China...or anywhere else.eyes:

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    Did anybody noticed that "neo" is a de facto synonim of "all the contrary"?

    While it's true that NS tried to relocate jews out of Europe, supporting Israel is a bit different in the way these neo-nazis express it. They speak of Israel as if it should be considered an almost "Honorary Aryan" state. That's not Hitler's idea.
    Also, NS wasn't antisemite, the only semites hated by NS were jews, but not Arabs for example (there were even pro-Axis Arab troops). I even dare to say that NS only hated jews, as other groups like gipsies or homosexuals could be tolerated under certain circumstances. Plus, these bald kids talk on antisemitism not only as if NS was antisemite, but also as if NS hated jews without fundaments. Hitler considered jews as Untermenschen, but being Untermensch doesn't mean that one is stupid or that one cannot evolve. In Mein Kampf Hitler makes reference to jewish intelligence in a couple of times (without proposing it) and the way they used that intelligence against Germans. And "against Germans" is the reason of the hatre, not the mere condition of being jew. If it were only for the ethnicity, Hitler wouldn't have make an alliance with Japan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazorquero View Post
    Also, NS wasn't antisemite, the only semites hated by NS were jews, but not Arabs for example (there were even pro-Axis Arab troops).
    To my knowledge, the term Antisemitism itself was coined by an Antijudaist (i.e. a person opposed to Jews, their values and their negative influence), however; namely the German publisher Wilhelm Marr. It was used from the beginning in a sense to refer explicitly and exclusively to Jews, and not to other ethnicities of the Semitic language branch such as the Arabs.

    In any case, Wilhelm Marr published in 1879 the famous book "The Victory of Judaism over Germanicism" in which the term "Antisemitism" supposedly was first introduced and back then it naturally didn't have the negative connotation it carries for about 50 years only. If you today call a person an Antisemite in public, he might sue you or would at least pretend to be indignant and outraged and would demand an apology. In the late 19th and early 20th century, he would have been entirely indifferent or would have even considered it a compliment.

    Most people referred voluntarily and proudly to themselves as "Antisemites," and already in the early 1880's the League of Antisemites was founded which demanded the repatriation of the Jews from Germany.

    Still until the 40's of the former century it didn't do damage to a man's reputation to be called or to call himself an Antisemite. Actually, until about the mid of the former century, it's difficult to find any great non-Jewish thinker or statesman in history who hadn't disliked the Jews in his own way and whose biography or lifework is entirely free of "antisemitic" thoughts.

    After the political climate had changed in the 60's, the new philosemitic and anti-Germanic establishment had to rewrite our history books completely to leave the antisemitic comments uttered by nearly every great European over the last 2,000 years either out or to portray these people as narrow-minded, unenlightened bigots; or they had to be presented in a way, as if their thoughts in exactly this area, even though not in others, would have been uncritically guided by the "prejudices" of their time.
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    This 'group' is a blogspot which probably has about two members, and quite possibly could be a joke.
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