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    Quote Originally Posted by Erhard View Post
    To my knowledge, the term Antisemitism itself was coined by an Antijudaist (i.e. a person opposed to Jews, their values and their negative influence), however; namely the German publisher Wilhelm Marr. It was used from the beginning in a sense to refer explicitly and exclusively to Jews, and not to other ethnicities of the Semitic language branch such as the Arabs.

    In any case, Wilhelm Marr published in 1879 the famous book "The Victory of Judaism over Germanicism" in which the term "Antisemitism" supposedly was first introduced and back then it naturally didn't have the negative connotation it carries for about 50 years only. If you today call a person an Antisemite in public, he might sue you or would at least pretend to be indignant and outraged and would demand an apology. In the late 19th and early 20th century, he would have been entirely indifferent or would have even considered it a compliment.

    Most people referred voluntarily and proudly to themselves as "Antisemites," and already in the early 1880's the League of Antisemites was founded which demanded the repatriation of the Jews from Germany.

    Still until the 40's of the former century it didn't do damage to a man's reputation to be called or to call himself an Antisemite. Actually, until about the mid of the former century, it's difficult to find any great non-Jewish thinker or statesman in history who hadn't disliked the Jews in his own way and whose biography or lifework is entirely free of "antisemitic" thoughts.

    After the political climate had changed in the 60's, the new philosemitic and anti-Germanic establishment had to rewrite our history books completely to leave the antisemitic comments uttered by nearly every great European over the last 2,000 years either out or to portray these people as narrow-minded, unenlightened bigots; or they had to be presented in a way, as if their thoughts in exactly this area, even though not in others, would have been uncritically guided by the "prejudices" of their time.
    I understand perfectly what you say, and when I wrote my post I kept it in mind. However, I can't simply use incorrectly that word; I personally dislike jews, but I have absolutely nothing against Arabs (I must add here, that Arabs in my country have a history quite diferent from the European experience) and I even admire many Arab achievements and other Semites like Phoenicians and Asyrians. I've seen too, a jew saying that an Arab was an "antisemite", and the Arab answered him "So I'm and antisemite? It's curious that I'm Semite too" (this opinions exchange was seen in local television during a debate on the last war in Lebanon).
    If I keep using "Semite" as a synonim of jew, that would be comparable to saying that the Swastika is a symbol of hatre.

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    German Neo-Nazis: We're Pro-Israel, Condemn Anti-Semitism

    Neo-Nutzi's should be the more accurate term for this group. I mean "Nazi's for Israel", it reminds me of "Toys for Tots" for some reason.

    Yeah, Anti-Semitic is term certain Jewish or Pro-Jewish special interest groups wanted to monopolize on a near fanatical basis. Sometimes in the news one can catch Jews calling Arabs/Palestinians Anti-Semitic during some ethnic strife article or something..so some things will really make you laugh of what is pulled on the mass population who really wouldnt know any better.

    *Theres actually a pretty good article here on the "The Aryan idea and Nazi-Germany", one can find many Arabs, Muslims and even truly non-Whites(ie non Caucasoid) serving in the 3rd Reich.

    http://www.patriot.dk/aryan1.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by SwordOfTheVistula View Post
    This 'group' is a blogspot which probably has about two members, and quite possibly could be a joke.
    It's the kind of shit I'd pull if I had the money and no responsibilities. Really bugged some people, too lol.

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    This is kind of a more healthy alternative to holocaust denial. In the sense that, taking the harsh propaganda and action against jews and other such people away from Nazism then pretty much turns Nazism into a heroic, positive, vital and energetic thing: Being proud of your race and reconstituting your nation, fighting for what you believe in and stirring up Europe quite a bit in a historic scale, grand speeches and military pride, etc.

    There has been a segment of the population that, for some time, has tried to remove the black mark of Nazi irreverence toward jews by saying that despite all their harsh language and thoughts/theories about jews, the Nazis never systematically killed them off. This has been a way of recapturing some pure, good and heroic status for the Nazi movement. Alternately: admitting they did such things, but discounting all such speech and ideology against jews and the like, is another such way of trying to re-idealize the ideology of National Socialism. Probably as I said a healthier and more acceptable way if one can say that it can be healthy or acceptable in the least to try at all to do such a thing for Nazism.

    It is for that reason I can see such a view point to not be ironic or a joke at all.

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    Proud racialists in solidarity with a very self aware and proud race - it's got to be a step forward in my book

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    This makes sense to me. Most anti-Semites today criticize Israel (faking compassion for Palestinians ), in great part because it is socially more acceptable than criticizing international Jewry itself. But Israelis are not real Jews, at least not what bothers us when talking about "Jews". Israelis have returned to the community of nations by attaching themselves to a land, working on it and defending it. They are quite a nation amongst others and not a harm for Germanics nor anybody (except Palestinians of course, for which nobody actually cares, even not their fellow Arabs in the Middle East).

    So, you can't be both anti-Jewry and anti-Israel. If all the Jews could return to Israel, the "Jewish question" would be put to an end. It could thus be a wish for all anti-Semites that Israel becomes the safest and most hospitable nation on Earth, supporting militant Zionists to get as many Jews as possible to settle there.

    There is the problem of Israel drawing the United States into a disastrous foreign policy, but that's the child product of American Jewry, not of Israel itself. The problem is that international Jewry supports Israel not as an end in itself, but as an add-on to their power.


    - International Jewry = problem (the "Jewish question")
    - All the Jews in Israel --> end of the problem
    - Current situation = International Jewry + Israel as a genetical reservoir, racist ethnostate and source for second passport and non-extradition in case of problem (any Jewish criminal who can get there before being arrested will never be extraded)


    So, the current situation is the worst, but I just think you can't logically oppose both Jewry and Israel, otherwise where would they go?

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    Nazis for Israel: a New Neo-Nazi Organization That Supports Jews


    A new German neo-Nazi organization calls on neo-Nazis to stop hating jews. The group believes jews have proved themselves to be a strong people, and judging them from a Darwinstic point of view proves they are a strong race that should be supported.

    The group also condemns the holocaust and the German neo Nazi party, the NPD, referring to them as reactionary hypocrites.

    A first meeting of group members was held in Berlin last month. The subjects dicussed were racism, capitalism, Islam and the Zionist movement.

    The group has issued a series of stickers with strange phrases such as "As a Nazi, I myself am a Jew" and one that shows Israeli soldiers on it and reads "a 2,000 years fight for survival is something you have to respect".


    http://www.pollsb.com/polls/p14285-n..._supports_jews

    http://nasofi.blogspot.com/
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    Although the word "Commando" was wrongly used to describe all Boer soldiers, a commando was a unit formed from a particular district. None of the units was organized in regular companies, battalions or squadrons. The Boer commandos were individualists who were difficult to control, resented formal discipline or orders, and earned a British jibe that"every Boer was his own general".

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    Well.. this is rather odd, to say the least..

    Out of a very morbid curiosity, I wonder what the PC/extreme left crowd think of this..

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueEyedBeast View Post
    Well.. this is rather odd, to say the least..

    Out of a very morbid curiosity, I wonder what the PC/extreme left crowd think of this..
    These days it is fashionable in the left (not just the extreme left either) to hate Israel and Jews just as much as they hate National Socialists.

    Personally, I agree with them. Too many people spend too much time worrying about some great "Jewish conspiracy", when no such thing exists. There are much greater threats to the survival of Germanic peoples and cultures than some half-baked conspiracy theory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matamoros View Post
    ...Too many people spend too much time worrying about some great "Jewish conspiracy", when no such thing exists. There are much greater threats to the survival of Germanic peoples and cultures than some half-baked conspiracy theory.
    Fair enough, but that's no reason to support them [the jews, that is]. We should support our own people and interests first and foremost, and let everyone else do the same for theirs.

    Edit:
    Well, as it turns out, a thread has already been made on this subject. It can be found here.

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