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    Germanic Free State Project

    I apologize if this has been raised before, I did do a search but didnt find much on it here.

    How do forum members feel about discussing the formation of a new location somewhere in the world that all who believe in a pure Germanic society could move to?

    I'm thinking along the lines of the http://freestateproject.org/which has been trialed in the USA.

    I don't have all the answers but would think a discussion on this is warranted by those serious about our future.

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    First off, yes, I think the idea of a national homeland is a good one.

    I think its funny that the idea of a Jewish homeland is almost universally accepted, but any mention of this idea in "traditional" circles is greeted with hostility and outright violence. Its not even a question of "hating" other people, but wanting to be with one's own kin.

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    Well we already have homelands, and I doubt it would be the easiest solution to our problems to find a new place to live and start over from scratch, at least not now.

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    I agree with Méldmir.
    For me, the homeland is called Europe. It's a beautifull place with lots of history, and despite it's many problems also can have a bright future. Those problems are for example decandence, blind multiculturalism, monotheism and a lack of a strong spiritual backbone that's bound to the ground we walk on.

    And then there's another slight problem. How do you define a 'pure germanic state'? What will be part of it and what won't? How pure is pure. It's much easier said than done and holds some pretty absolutist theats.

    From my point of view I would say let's start fixing Europe. From an Asatru-perspective of course.

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    I think this is a idea worth discussion, yes we already do have our homelands. The point would to not move from them but to secure these lands from outside forces. To say that it is impossible is simply not true everything is possible. To say that it would be too hard of work is also not true, everything worth having is always hard work to get.

    The biggest thing would be to make this idea trans-generational that way it continues after we are gone.

    The first thing we do is get other Germanics aware of who they are and the idea that we are a culture worth preserving.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorodinssohn View Post
    First off, yes, I think the idea of a national homeland is a good one.

    I think its funny that the idea of a Jewish homeland is almost universally accepted, but any mention of this idea in "traditional" circles is greeted with hostility and outright violence. Its not even a question of "hating" other people, but wanting to be with one's own kin.
    The jewish homeland is accepted because the media is run by jews. How simple the concept.

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    Quote Originally Posted by michaelg
    How do forum members feel about discussing the formation of a new location somewhere in the world that all who believe in a pure Germanic society could move to?
    There is such an idea, where people mused about buying some land and make it an exclusively Germanic country.

    Basically, good idea.

    But #1): we already have homelands, which we cannot abandon. When we do, we admit defeat.

    But #2): when we flee our homelands, we leave them and the remaining Germanics to the hordes of ever more immigrants to fix the crumbling economy. We would make it for those much more worse and the extinction of them would just accelerate.

    But #3): A question of principle. This is our lands. What the hell are people thinking with just leaving them to those hordes instead of fighting the invasion? When Irby says in the other thread, there is nothing comparable to a Germanic warrior in the world, then how the Hel can we even think about fleeing?


    Even when it would be a part of a Germanic country becoming independend, we still would leave those who cant or dont want to join that happy little enclave behind. This does not go along well with all the notions of community sense, helping each other and all that other stuff we like so much to think about ourselves.


    No. The only valid answer to the invasions is to fight. Fighting back what is ours, fighting our enemies, fighting for what and who we are, and protecting those who cannot fight (women, children, old).
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    I propose we take back our homelands that are currently be taken over by Hispanics, Asians, Africans or Muslims, depending on where you live. This idea of creating a "homeland" somewhere sounds more like a "surrender most of what you already have" scheme. It is another way of saying "partition", something I have already stated my views on in this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by velvet View Post
    This does not go along well with all the notions of community sense, helping each other and all that other stuff we like so much to think about ourselves.
    Indeed, we should put our money where our mouth is or don't speak of these things at all. It's a matter of personal honor not to quit a fight when it concerns something we say we care for.

    Despite it's peculiarities and faults, I love our northern homelands and do not wish to abandon it in any case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by velvet View Post
    we already have homelands, which we cannot abandon. When we do, we admit defeat.
    Dare I mention the Battle of Dunkirk? Didn't turn out to be all bad for the British in the end.

    I'm not suggesting all European preservationists pack their bags and leave their current homelands, but it is usually a smart choice to not keep all your cards on one hand. A Germanic Free State could function both as an inspiration for the mainstream European people and as a fort to gather our strenght and grow our numbers in, without our children being indoctrinated by the school system and society in general.

    I'm all for it!

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