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    Schism | The Growing Divide Between Israel & American Jews

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    Schism: The growing divide between Israel and American Jews

    by Peter Beinart | May 12, 2010

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    In 2003, several prominent Jewish philanthropists hired Republican pollster Frank Luntz to explain why American Jewish college students were not more vigorously rebutting campus criticism of Israel. In response, he unwittingly produced the most damning indictment of the organized American Jewish community that I have ever seen.
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    Among American Jews today, there are a great many Zionists, especially in the Orthodox world, people deeply devoted to the State of Israel. And there are a great many liberals, especially in the secular Jewish world, people deeply devoted to human rights for all people, Palestinians included. But the two groups are increasingly distinct.
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    I knew a lot of Jews in NYC, and for the most part, they're nice people. Personally, I like jews and most asians better than other minorities.

    I think they mean well, like most whites that want the world to "unite." But the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

    I've never met a Zionist Jew(that I know of), but they're obviously out there, and it explains a great deal that there's a divide in Jewish ideologies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by casualty View Post
    I think they mean well, like most whites
    Jews aren't white, jews are an afro-asiatic people of Hither Asiatic stock.





    If jews were white, they would not have been kicked out a hundred times out of White and European countries in the past 2,000 years.

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    And there are a great many liberals, especially in the secular Jewish world, people deeply devoted to human rights for all people.
    Bullcrap, human rights for everyone except if you are white (or what they label as white/European/Germanic etc).

    When it comes to zionism outside of israel they both hold hands.

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    I know jews aren't white. I meant most whites, even th liberals, mean well. The zionist are clearly dangerous.

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    They are suffocating in their own choke-hold, so to speak. They have fought for inclusion in mainstream society and achieved it together with a corresponding drop in anti-Semitism, and now they are paying the price. As their young have become accepted in popular culture -- and they themselves have come to dominate it -- they are also becoming increasingly influenced by it (as they increasingly live in it and identify with it) and it is becoming harder and harder to organised Jewry to maintain two conflicting party lines, one for Jews and one for the rest. Where it succeeds is among the Orthodox Jews who do not identify with Western culture, secular Jews are instead influenced by the secular culture. These are the reasons behind the old saying a little anti-Semitism is a good thing for the Jews. They have tried to eat their cookie and to have it too, and have failed abysmally.

    This confirms my view of Jews as basically opportunists, as parasites more or less aimlessly drifting around looking for a suitable environment in which to apply their methods. I do not believe that they have a grand plan but rather a quite static modus operandi that has proved successful over time. What saved them before was their lack of success; i.e. that they never, even in their greatest triumphs, became seen as people in general but always as a distinctly foreign and somewhat unwelcome element. Now they have succeeded, and that has landed them in a situation with which they never had to cope before, and that might very well prove to be their undoing as they are now losing that internal cohesion that used to be their great asset and the key to their success.

    I do not think that they will be able to cope with the non-linearities that they have unleashed upon the world and, ultimately, upon themselves. Simply put, they will not have the manpower or the resources to deal with the unintended consequences of their own actions.

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    TheDailyBeast.com

    Love Israel? Criticize It

    by Peter Beinart | May 19, 2010


    The Daily Beast's Peter Beinart, responding to attacks on his recent essay, says those who love Israel as a liberal democratic Jewish state should be furious with the country today—not ignore or explain away its faults.
    Click here to read his response.

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