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    How Many People Live in the UK?

    This article is 2 1/2 years old. Is it actually possible that the population of the United Kingdom is 1/3 greater then official statisitics? And where are the extra 20 million from?

    City Eye: Facts on a plate: our population is at least 77 million

    It is the statistic that dare not speak its name, though eventually it must. It has huge ramifications for the civil and political life of this country, the health of the equity markets and, most immediately, the residential property market. So don't forget you read it here first: the population of the UK is presently somewhere between 77 and 80 million.


    The 2001 census, already hopelessly out of date and easy to avoid for those who find filling in forms a trifle inelegant, numbered us at a little under 59 million. But as statistics go, that one's most definitely a damned lie.

    My sources for the above statement are good, but scared of admitting the truth for fear of incurring the wrath of Whitehall. It's like the best way of monitoring illegal drug consumption: forget the pious statements from ministers – the foolproof method is to sample our water and the effluent in it. That's easily the best way of monitoring what the nation has been consuming.

    Consumption – that's the thing. Based on what we eat, one big supermarket chain reckons there are 80 million people living in the UK. The demand for food is a reliable indicator; as Sir Richard Branson says, you can have all the money in the world but you can only eat onelunch and one dinner.

    The supermarket in question was privately lobbying the Competition Commission to let it grow its market share. The argu- ment, reasonably enough, was that the market was far bigger than the regulator realised, so expanding the network was fair.

    I have a second, respectable, source. A major, non-commercial agricultural institution reckons there are 77 million of us in the UK. Again, its reckoning is based on what we eat.

    That faint background noise you're hearing as you read this is the sound of everyone slithering off the record. Why? In political terms, standing behind these figures would be to toss a hand grenade into a vat of gasoline. People would be hounded out of a job for scaremongering.

    The Office for National Statistics' figures, published last week, predict a population of 75 million by 2051. It's an honest estimate but horribly wide of the mark because number counting doesn't work effectively. If you want to know how many there are of us, ask a food firm.

    If the true numbers were revealed, the Little Englanders and xenophobes would come out in force about the evils of immigration. But that's what made America great in the 19th century, and it's a driving force of our economy right now. It's also anti-inflationary.

    David Buik, a money manager with broker BGC Partners, was talking of "one million Eastern Europeans unaccounted for in London" on television last week. I suspect he's right if somewhat conservative in his estimate. How many do you see working in the construction industry and waiting at tables?

    And when I say "anti-inflationary", I mean they are getting rotten wages. Dignified by the term "cheap labour", the hidden hordes will do well for the services sector, among others. People are assets – to maintain and to be maintained – so we are wealthier as a nation.

    All of which is reflected in strong economic demand and markets see-sawing between optimism over what we all see on the streets (that 77 million figure feels right to me) and the possibility of something nasty if the Bank of England credit-crunch prognosis is correct (to echo last week, I think next spring will be unpleasant).

    As for housing, property magnates and chief executives of housing associations alike say the expanding population means serious demand for the foreseeable future, credit crunch or no. Next week, I'll look at the detail of this argument.

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    That's worrying reading to say the least.

    Obviously i don't buy the line about immigration being such a great thing. But it's still a good article to refer people too when talking about immigration and population growth.
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    The extra 20 million are of course "the brave newcomers to the old world" as jewmasonic propaganda calls them since world war II.

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    Why can't people understand that England is full!

    They say that immigration is necessary to drive our economy. But what does a better economy get us? More money to buy more trinkets we don't need? More money to to pay for our ever increasing housing costs? Our housing costs wouldn't be so high, and there would be much more space for each of us, if there weren't so many immigrants!

    I would rather grow our economy through technological advances and increased productivity with the native population.

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    They say immigrants are needed for the economy but they feel to see that our economy was just fine when immigrants were unheard of.

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    "But that's what made America great in the 19th century"

    Really? Well, it ain't what made Britain great in the 19th century.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedJack View Post
    "But that's what made America great in the 19th century"

    Really? Well, it ain't what made Britain great in the 19th century.
    Immigration didn't make America great. Immigrants came to America because America was already a great place, thanks to the founding settlers who provided the social infrastructure to make it so. The whole "immigration makes us strong" and all that other positive crap about immigrants has reached the level of "undeniable positive orthodoxy" . The real reason for mass immigration is cheap labor & to divied and conquer the electorate.

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    There are way too many people in the UK,and another thing.....if we got rid of all the blacks we would have an hours more daylight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angelcynn Beorn View Post
    Obviously i don't buy the line about immigration being such a great thing.
    Haha! I take it you don't live in South or East London mate

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    The Population Bomb

    The UK is not the only country with this problem. It is a world wide problem.
    There are approximately 6.8 billion on the face of the planet at this moment in time and this population is increasing at rate of approx. 150 new souls every minute. How much longer is it going to take until we run out of space and resources (especially food and potable water)?

    Why do you think all this mass migration coming out of the Third World into the Industrialized West is going on? They have run out of food, water, space and jobs there.

    So stop whining about population density and start screaming about requiring mandated sterilization...

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