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    Quote Originally Posted by Agrippa View Post
    You can say that, but you can't prove it. The latest research says otherwise, but the last word is not spoken.
    Look at the mongoloids especially the frail and scrawny North-Eastern Islander ones, do they look like they pocess any Neanderthal ancestry?

    Some of the non-homogeneous mongoloid populations will pocess some Neanderthal genes due to genetic drift and genetic contribution from Europids such as Ughuyres and Tocharians for China.

    But the same could be said about the non-negroid populations of Africa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arne View Post
    The theory of an ancestry within neanderthalensis mixing with sapiens was not really right- of the discussion goes on between the scientists- but it was also shown by the genom in relation to ours that there were too many differents for furtil procreation. It is just verified that their evolution neanderthalensis and non- african sapiens has more in common, than neanderthalensis with african sapiens.
    So eurasiens of course have more in common to each other then to african.
    So africans are really more anciant then eurasians, because their evoltion developed on.
    The two big theories of evolution have to be combinded- the out-of-africa is somehow right, the other of a regional evolution, too.
    And neanderthalensis`evolution has also to be written new, because they were more less in amount, more mobile nomadic than thought before and just all of one family, a very near degree and developed from the heidelbergensis, not directly from erectus than thought before. sapiens and neanderthalensis developed from heidelbergensis, heidelbergensis from antecessor, antecessor and erectus from ergaster.
    And that is just the ancestry we have in common, the ancestor heidelbergensis.
    These genes are his inheritance.

    Didn`t you read this? Or just ignore?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rassenhygieniker View Post
    Look at the mongoloids especially the frail and scrawny North-Eastern Islander ones, do they look like they pocess any Neanderthal ancestry?
    As much as progressive Europids - some even more so.

    Some of the non-homogeneous mongoloid populations will pocess some Neanderthal genes due to genetic drift and genetic contribution from Europids such as Ughuyres and Tocharians for China.
    Actually primitive Mongoloids are more Neandertaloid than progressive Europids in certain respects but those which can be explained by (mostly cold) adaptation.

    Especially Northern Mongoloids are often extremely low headed and the Indianids have very often strong browridges in combination with other primitive traits regionally (Lagid!).

    But the same could be said about the non-negroid populations of Africa.
    Australids and some primitive Mongolids are much more like Neandertaloids than the average Europid...
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    The Neanderthal expert John Hawkes was on a special about them on the National Geographic Channel about a year ago. It was mentioned that the FOXP2 gene was present in the Neanderthal, and is present in the modern Homo. According to him or some geneticist in the documentary, it should only be present in or the other; not both. This particular gene is responsible for complex human speech. I do know that many Niger-Congo languages are very simple compared to ones from other language families. I wonder if the FOXP2 gene has something to do with this difference.

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    It looks like Neanderthals may have beaten modern humans to the seas. Growing evidence suggests our extinct cousins criss-crossed the Mediterranean in boats from 100,000 years ago—though not everyone is convinced they weren’t just good swimmers.
    Neanderthals lived around the Mediterranean from 300,000 years ago. Their distinctive “Mousterian” stone tools are found on the Greek mainland and, intriguingly, have also been found on the Greek islands of Lefkada, Kefalonia and Zakynthos. That could be explained in two ways: either the islands weren’t islands at the time, or our distant cousins crossed the water somehow.
    Now, George Ferentinos of the University of Patras in Greece says we can rule out the former. The islands, he says, have been cut off from the mainland for as long as the tools have been on them.
    Ferentinos compiled data that showed sea levels were 120 metres lower 100,000 years ago, because water was locked up in Earth’s larger ice caps. But the seabed off Greece today drops down to around 300 metres, meaning that when Neanderthals were in the region, the sea would have been at least 180 metres deep (Journal of Archaeological Science, DOI: 10.1016/j.jas.2012.01.032).
    Ferentinos thinks Neanderthals had a seafaring culture for tens of thousands of years. Modern humans are thought to have taken to the seas just 50,000 years ago, on crossing to Australia.
    The journeys to the Greek islands from the mainland were quite short—5 to 12 kilometres—but according to Thomas Strasser of Providence College in Rhode Island, the Neanderthals didn’t stop there. In 2008 he found similar stone tools on Crete, which he says are at least 130,000 years old. Crete has been an island for some 5 million years and is 40 kilometres from its closest neighbour—suggesting far more ambitious journeys.
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    Original Article: http://www.newscientist.com/article/...-mariners.html
    http://amren.com/news/2012/03/neande...ient-mariners/

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