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    The Top 5 Most Disturbing Gangsta Tactics

    Coming soon to a neighborhood near you.

    The five most disturbing discoveries of the FBI’s study are that these ganstas:

    1.Have no hesitation whatsoever about pulling the trigger.
    2.Have more experience using deadly force in "street combat" than most police.
    3.Practice with firearms more often and shoot more accurately than the average police although tend to "Shoot for effect" without aiming in actual encounters.
    4.Nearly 70% of gangstas were successful (In getting rounds on target) with handguns, compared to about 40% of the victim officers, the study found.
    5.The street combat veterans (Gangstas) survived by developing a shoot-first mentality.
    "If you hesitate," one gangsta told the study’s researchers, "you’re dead. You have the instinct or you don’t. If you don’t, you’re in trouble on the street…."


    Weapon Choice


    1.Handguns, obtained illegally in street transactions or thefts.
    2.In contrast to media myth, none of the firearms in the study was obtained from gun shows.
    3.What was available "was the overriding factor in weapon choice".
    4.None of the attackers interviewed was "hindered by any law–federal, state or local–that has ever been established to prevent gun ownership.
    5.The gangsta’s in the study "just laughed at gun laws".


    Familiarity


    1.The average age was 17 when they first started packing "most of the time."
    2.Nearly 40% of the gangstas had some type of formal firearms training, primarily from the military.
    3.More than 80% "regularly practiced with handguns, averaging 23 practice sessions a year,"
    4.Practice was usually in informal settings like trash dumps, rural woods, back yards and "street corners in known drug-trafficking areas."
    5.One spoke of being motivated to improve his gun skills by his belief that officers "go to the range two, three times a week [and] practice arms so they can hit anything."
    6.Officers in the study averaged 2.5 qualifications per year. Only 6 of the 50 officers reported practicing regularly with handguns apart from what their department required.
    7.The gangstas practiced more often than the officers they assaulted, and this "may have helped increase [their] marksmanship skills,"
    8.The gangsta quoted above about his practice motivation, for example, fired 12 rounds at an officer, striking him 3 times. The officer fired 7 rounds, all misses.
    9.More than 40% of the gangstas had been involved in actual shooting confrontations before they feloniously assaulted an officer.
    10.Ten of these "street combat veterans," all from "inner-city, drug-trafficking environments," had taken part in 5 or more "criminal firefight experiences" in their lifetime.
    11.One reported that he was 14 when he was first shot on the street, "about 18 before a cop shot me."
    12.Another said getting shot was a pivotal experience "because I made up my mind no one was gonna shoot me again."
    14.Only eight of the 50 LEO victims had participated in a prior shooting; 1 had been involved in 2 previously, another in 3. Seven of the 8 had killed gangstas.


    Concealment


    1.The gangstas said they most often hid guns on their person in the front waistband, with the groin area and the small of the back nearly tied for second place.
    2.Some occasionally gave their weapons to another person to carry, "most often a female companion."
    3.None regularly used a holster, and about 40% at least sometimes carried a backup weapon.
    4.In motor vehicles, they most often kept their firearm readily available on their person, or, less often, under the seat.
    5.In residences, most stashed their weapon under a pillow, on a nightstand, under the mattress–somewhere within immediate reach while in bed.
    6.Almost all carried when on the move and strong majorities did so when socializing, committing crimes or being at home.
    7.About one-third brought weapons with them to work.
    8.Interestingly, the gangstas in this study more commonly admitted having guns under all these circumstances than did gangstas interviewed in the researchers’ earlier 2 surveys, conducted in the 1980s and ’90s.
    9.Male gangstas said time and time again that female officers tend to search them more thoroughly than male officers.
    10.In prison, most of the gangstas were more afraid to carry contraband or weapons when a female CO was on duty.
    11.On the street, however, both male and female officers too often regard female subjects "as less of a threat, assuming that they are not going to have a gun.
    12.In truth, the researchers concluded that more female gangstas are armed today than 20 years ago–"not just female gang associates, but female gangstas generally."


    Shooting Style


    1.Twenty-six of the gangstas [about 60%], including all of the street combat veterans, "claimed to be instinctive shooters, pointing and firing the weapon without consciously aligning the sights".
    2.Gangstas frequently "Practice getting the gun out and using it".
    3.Gangstas "Shoot for effect." Or as one of the gangstas put it: "We’re not working with no marksmanship….We just putting it in your direction, you know….It don’t matter…as long as it’s gonna hit you…if it’s up at your head or your chest, down at your legs, whatever….Once I squeeze and you fall, then…if I want to execute you, then I could go from there."


    Hit Rate


    1.More often than the officers they attacked, gangstas delivered at least some rounds on target in their encounters.
    2.Nearly 70% of gangstas were successful (In getting rounds on target) with handguns, compared to about 40% of the victim officers, the study found. (Efforts of gangstas and officers to get on target were considered successful if any rounds struck, regardless of the number fired).
    3.Gangstas "Might have had an advantage because in all but 3 cases they fired first, usually catching the officer by surprise".
    4."10 of the total victim officers had been wounded [and thus impaired] before they returned gunfire at their attackers."


    Missed Cues


    1.Officers would less likely be caught off guard by attackers if they were more observant of indicators of concealed weapons, the study concludes.
    2.These particularly include manners of dress, ways of moving and unconscious gestures often related to carrying.
    3."Officers should look for unnatural protrusions or bulges in the waist, back and crotch areas," the study says, and watch for "shirts that appear rippled or wavy on one side of the body while the fabric on the other side appears smooth."
    4.In warm weather, multilayered clothing inappropriate to the temperature may be a giveaway.
    5.On cold or rainy days, a subject’s jacket hood may not be covering his head because it is being used to conceal a handgun.
    6.Because they eschew holsters, gangstas reported frequently touching a concealed gun with hands or arms "to assure themselves that it is still hidden, secure and accessible" and hasn’t shifted".
    7.Such gestures are especially noticeable "whenever individuals change body positions, such as standing, sitting or exiting a vehicle".
    8.If they run, they may need to keep a constant grip on a hidden gun to control it.
    9.Just as cops generally blade their body to make their sidearm less accessible, armed criminals "do the same in encounters with LEOs to ensure concealment and easy access."
    10.Officers who are assigned to look for concealed weapons, while working off-duty security at night clubs for instance, are often highly proficient at detecting them. "But then when they go back to the street without that specific assignment, they seem to ‘turn off’ that skill," and thus are startled–sometimes fatally–when a suspect suddenly produces a weapon and attacks.


    Mind-Set


    1.Thirty-six of the 50 officers in the study had "experienced hazardous situations where they had the legal authority" to use deadly force "but chose not to shoot." They averaged 4 such prior incidents before the encounters that the researchers investigated.
    2."It appeared clear that none of these officers were willing to use deadly force against an gangsta if other options were available".
    3.The gangstas were of a different mind-set entirely. In fact, the study team "did not realize how cold blooded the younger generation of gangsta is. They have been exposed to killing after killing, they fully expect to get killed and they don’t hesitate to shoot anybody, including a police officer.
    4.They can go from riding down the street saying what a beautiful day it is to killing in the next instant.
    5."gangstas typically displayed no moral or ethical restraints in using firearms".
    6.The street combat veterans (Gangstas) survived by developing a shoot-first mentality.
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    Source: http://forum.pafoa.org/general-2/96016-top-5-most-disturbing-gangsta-tactics.html

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    Action is faster than reaction, no news there. In fact, in any combat situation, it is almost always the one who strikes first that wins. You do not get points for coming in second. Period.

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    I can't take this post seriously because it looks like it was just written for some gun-nut forum with made up statistics, not to mention it's full of errors and slang.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kultron View Post
    I can't take this post seriously because it looks like it was just written for some gun-nut forum with made up statistics, not to mention it's full of errors and slang.
    Hm...anytime I hear someone mention the words "gun nut" I am reminded of liberal-talk.
    I hate to be the bearer of bad news (good news where I'm from) but there are quite a few gun nuts on this forum, including myself.

    Please elaborate on why you think the Pennsylvania Firearm Owners Association are full of crazies.

    "...made up statistics..."? If you go to the link you will find that this study was undertaken by the FBI.
    Also, please point out the errors and "slang" that you deemed were unfit enough to be taken seriously.

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    I do not doubt the authenticity of the report, however, I am skeptical of all survey based reports due to the simple fact that participants are known to exaggerate and outright lie for a wide variety of reasons. From what I can see this report relies almost exclusively upon surveys of people identifying as "gangsta", a segement of the population that is inherently prone to lying and shameless self-promotion. Do you think that any self-proclaimed gangsta is going to present himself as anything less than a practiced gunman? Of course not, their entire identity consists of self-aggrandizement.

    Having said that, anyone who carries a gun and identifies as a "gangsta" is an absolute danger to civil society even if they have never pulled a trigger before. I don't need a survey built upon the boasts of known liars to convince me that any person who values his or her freedom should own and know how to use a firearm, if that is the intent of this report.

    Lastly, having lived much of my life around wannabe mexican "gangstas" here in lovely (sarcasm) Phoenix Arizona I can attest that my personal experience has proven quite the opposite of the report. Most of their type don't even know how to clean their gun or clear a jam if the need arises not to mention that most of their weapons are in awful condition because they are black market trash that no knowledgable gun owner has ever maintained.

    Undoubtedly there are well armed well trained street thugs out there but my gut tells me that they are the exception and not the rule...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kultron View Post
    I can't take this post seriously because it looks like it was just written for some gun-nut forum with made up statistics, not to mention it's full of errors and slang.
    Kultron I accidently gave you a thanks.I am still asleep and accidently pushed the wrong button.

    Since you think this post was written for some gun-nut forum,I got a propostion for you.
    Come down South to Dallas,Texas or Houston,Texas for that matter and take
    a walk through one of the all black neighborhoods and I'll bet you your life you will eat those words you wrote.
    The Gangstas that Ronans FBI statistics details are very real and they will shoot to
    kill on a moments notice.They live and die by the gun and grow up believing
    there is a war going on between them and the establishment.
    And as for the "Gun-Nuts" you mentioned,I to am a Gun-Nut and the threat
    of "Gangstas" is one of the reasons I own Guns.


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    Quote Originally Posted by OnePercent View Post
    I am skeptical of all survey based reports due to the simple fact that participants are known to exaggerate and outright lie for a wide variety of reasons.
    I am sure they were able to base the evidence for their findings on more than what the subjects claimed. It is also entirely possible that many of them could have been telling the truth.

    The crimes described here are a pretty regular occurrence in the neighborhoods the agents observed. Somebody is committing them. The gangsta movement is a very trendy lifestyle that many of its members choose either out of peer pressure or desperation.
    The negroes and mexicans who typically belong to these gangs always seem to boast no matter what they talk about. It is a fact that most violent crimes are committed by minority groups, and most of these were committed to complement the "gangsta" lifestyle, since it is the gangs who often control entire neighborhoods where minorities are more populous.

    Do you think that any self-proclaimed gangsta is going to present himself as anything less than a practiced gunman? Of course not, their entire identity consists of self-aggrandizement.
    If the majority of them own guns and the average gangsta is an itchy-trigger type personality then it matters not to me if a larger number of them lie about their alleged skills. They still have to be treated as if they are experts. It would be dangerous to not give them the benefit of the doubt.

    I don't need a survey built upon the boasts of known liars to convince me that any person who values his or her freedom should own and know how to use a firearm, if that is the intent of this report.
    Maybe not you but there are certainly many others who would find this study to be beneficial. I literally had to scare my own mother with statistics and studies such as this before finally convincing her to not just carry her own pistol but practice with it regularly. Even though my parents live in an almost 100% White neighborhood that does not exclude the very real possibility that a group of home invaders could strike at any moment. They often stray from their home turf to commit crimes in the better neighborhoods.
    (BTW, Waco is 51% White, 26% black, 21% hispanic, and many of these are illegals.)

    Undoubtedly there are well armed well trained street thugs out there but my gut tells me that they are the exception and not the rule...
    If they own guns in large numbers then I will take them just as seriously as if they all were experts.

    In summing up, the main reason that the slang word "gangsta" is used by the FBI is merely to conform with political correctness. It is a safer way to describe minorities without having to resort to the racist-sounding “black gang member”. By using this one word they assume that most people will know exactly who they are talking about without the issue of skin color being brought into it.
    This is the trend everywhere and just about the only thing I dislike about the above study. They need to reach a point when they will just admit that blacks are the main instigators behind the ever growing violent crime statistics.

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    I don't know about you but as a gun-owning American living in a violent urban area I am far more afraid of some of the branches of our own federal government (such as the ATF, for example, that is inarguably well-armed and well-trained) than I am about a bunch of dumb black "gangstas". Here's why, the "gangtas" are almost exclusively killing off one another while our own government is actively targeting people like you and I who are armed for our own protection. Either way, they are both enemies in my eyes.

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    I take anything that uses statistics as a base because of how the stat's are gained and the way they are applied

    How ever i don't doubt the ability of Dumb black Gangsters as they are Dumb enough to just do it

    we don't have dumb black gangsters here just white one's or yellow one's
    Tasmanian twice the heads!!.......twice the intelligence!?

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    Jews would hinder any attempt by wasp america to come down conclusively on these armed african bandits.

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