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    What is the Power of an Oath?

    Jager wrote:
    And yet it has happened, that is the power of written words I'd say
    Don't you have guns for this? ...Shouldn't the government lie down in fear of an armed revolt?....what a surprise, after all your constitution should have protected you against this somehow, maybe lying around in a vitrine isn't that powerful after all.
    What would you say, Jager, is the power of an oath?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zimobog View Post
    What would you say, Jager, is the power of an oath?
    The honor of men, if there is none, an oath has no power at all.
    "Nothing is more disgusting than the majority: because it consists of a few powerful predecessors, of rogues who adapt themselves, of weak who assimilate themselves, and the masses who imitate without knowing at all what they want." (Johann Wolfgang Goethe)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jäger View Post
    So how do you think it could happen that men without honor rose to the top of your nation?
    The answer to this is real simple.These men are not true Americans.They are
    Plutocrats and Obama is a foreigner.The only code these men live by is the
    one printed on the back of a dollar bill.
    A true American,something you know nothing about,has only one oath and
    that oath is to uphold all amendments of the Constitution written before 1913
    1913 is the year in which they added the 16th amendment,which authorizes unapportioned federal taxes on income.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lokies Domain View Post
    The answer to this is real simple.These men are not true Americans.
    You didn't understand my question, I didn't ask why those men have no honor, I asked how it could happen they came to lead your union. This isn't even limited to politics, your whole economy is full of people with dishonorable conduct as well.
    "Nothing is more disgusting than the majority: because it consists of a few powerful predecessors, of rogues who adapt themselves, of weak who assimilate themselves, and the masses who imitate without knowing at all what they want." (Johann Wolfgang Goethe)

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    Jager said:
    So how do you think it could happen that men without honor rose to the top of your nation?
    You didn't understand my question, I didn't ask why those men have no honor, I asked how it could happen they came to lead your union. This isn't even limited to politics, your whole economy is full of people with dishonorable conduct as well.
    Do you think men should honor their oaths?

    When I asked you "what is the power of an oath?" you answered with what an oath isn't not what it is. So I ask you again, what is the power of an oath?

    In answer to your question to me:

    These men came to lead the union of the States the same manner that those that lead your nation came to power: they were selected by the globalist plutocrats to be our "choices". Is it any different where you live?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zimobog View Post
    Do you think men should honor their oaths?
    Yes, however, this doesn't mean I think every man will honor an oath.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zimobog View Post
    When I asked you "what is the power of an oath?" you answered with what an oath isn't not what it is. So I ask you again, what is the power of an oath?
    The honor of men.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zimobog View Post
    These men came to lead the union of the States the same manner that those that lead your nation came to power: they were selected by the globalist plutocrats to be our "choices". Is it any different where you live?
    It isn't any different, however, I identify the problem in the system those men get selected, a parliamentarian republic, something which your constitution protects.
    It is also of interest to note, that in my country the power of dishonorable men was increased through American interference, and eventually cemented through a constitution molded after an American design.
    I don't want to discuss this in detail though, there are already other threads available, so to get more to the point: how can you prevent this from happening again?
    "Nothing is more disgusting than the majority: because it consists of a few powerful predecessors, of rogues who adapt themselves, of weak who assimilate themselves, and the masses who imitate without knowing at all what they want." (Johann Wolfgang Goethe)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jäger View Post
    You didn't understand my question, I didn't ask why those men have no honor, I asked how it could happen they came to lead your union. This isn't even limited to politics, your whole economy is full of people with dishonorable conduct as well.
    Unfortunately the same thing has happened right across Europe. It's not quite as corrupt and evil as the US System yet but it's heading that way fast.

    There's been a general failing in the West where "we" (as in Western Aboriginals) have slowly been sidelined by the kosher brigade and their causes like "diversity", "integration", "liberalism", "NeoConservatism", "Zionism", mass immigration into our countries (in order to destroy our culture and hence the remaining resistance to them and their agendas) and so forth.

    Unfortunately "we" were caught sleeping and allowed all this to happen. If things continue the way they are "The West" (USA + Europe) as we know it will cease to exist. It'll have become a United Nations. Heck, it already is......

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoyBatty View Post
    Unfortunately "we" were caught sleeping and allowed all this to happen.
    This is correct, however, there is a strong correlation of adopting an Anglo-Parliamentarian system and degenerating, after all Germany is not sleeping voluntarily, we were put to sleep, and coincidentally we are unable to wake up even if with such a "great constitution" created after the (French-)Anglo-Parliamentarian model. Is this really just a coincidence?
    "Nothing is more disgusting than the majority: because it consists of a few powerful predecessors, of rogues who adapt themselves, of weak who assimilate themselves, and the masses who imitate without knowing at all what they want." (Johann Wolfgang Goethe)

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    It isn't any different, however, I identify the problem in the system those men get selected, a parliamentarian republic, something which your constitution protects.
    In our Republic, the law rules and stands above the mob. In a parlimentarian democracy, the mob and it's whim are the rulers. The oligarchy controls the mob by propaganda and manipulating public opinion thru mass-media and slick marketing of "democratic ideals". There are no true democracies that are not ruled by elite oligarchies, therefore democracy is a transitional goverment between Republic and plutoracy. Sometimes the oligarchy is hidden, as in America, and other times it is clearly visable... as it was in NS Germany.

    As America drifts further toward democracy, the more the mob rules and the less the law rules. Bread and circus. How can it be called even a democracy when we have a "choice" between two pre-selected favorites of the oligarchy? They chose to "elect" either Hillary Clinton -or- B.H. Obama at a secret meeting attended by both of the "canidates". It never was a "race".

    Besides, in America our President is elected by electors, not by popular vote anyway...



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    QUOTE]It is also of interest to note, that in my country the power of dishonorable men was increased through American interference, and eventually cemented through a constitution molded after an American design... there is a strong correlation of adopting an Anglo-Parliamentarian system and degenerating, after all Germany is not sleeping voluntarily, we were put to sleep, and coincidentally we are unable to wake up even if with such a "great constitution" created after the (French-)Anglo-Parliamentarian model.
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    Germany is not only sleeping, she has over-slept, and is hitting the snooze button again. We have the same globalists who wish to control us as you do.
    Have German people ever wished to be free and sovereign, besides the ones that came to America?

    That is the divide as I see it: between those who want to live in freedom and enjoy the same and those who want to live for the state.

    I don't want to discuss this in detail though, there are already other threads available, so to get more to the point: how can you prevent this from happening again?
    How can all the West prevent it from happening again? This has been the norm since before WWI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zimobog View Post
    In our Republic, the law rules and stands above the mob.
    As long as the law can be legally changed, the rule of the mob stands and falls with universal suffrage. Wyoming was pretty quick with this, 100 years and your law came under the mob, another 100 years and ... well, we can see the results.
    Why? Why did your republic fall so fast under mob rule? Wasn't it designed to prevent this? Why did it fail?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zimobog View Post
    We have the same globalists who wish to control us as you do.
    Yes, but we had to be beaten into accepting them, your leadership sold you out for some shekels.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zimobog View Post
    Have German people ever wished to be free and sovereign, besides the ones that came to America?
    Yes, the last public incarnation of this thought was born in 1933.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zimobog View Post
    That is the divide as I see it: between those who want to live in freedom and enjoy the same and those who want to live for the state.
    Not the state, the community, the Volk, our leader is part of our Volk. The divide is between those who think the individual is all, and neglect any duty to their kin, and those who don't.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zimobog View Post
    How can all the West prevent it from happening again? This has been the norm since before WWI.
    Through the abolishment of the West, and with it their idiotic thought of paper belief (apotheosis of the constitution) and (parliamentarian) democracy.
    "Nothing is more disgusting than the majority: because it consists of a few powerful predecessors, of rogues who adapt themselves, of weak who assimilate themselves, and the masses who imitate without knowing at all what they want." (Johann Wolfgang Goethe)

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