View Poll Results: All In All Did Christianity Have A Positive Impact on Europe?

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  • Yes Christianity did have a Positive Effect on Europe

    29 42.03%
  • Europe would have been better without Christianity's Influence

    13 18.84%
  • Christianity Ruined Europe

    21 30.43%
  • Christianity Strengthend Europe and Without it Europe would still be in the Dark Ages

    6 8.70%
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    Holocaustianity

    Are we not allowed to opt-out of the Crucifixion and Christianity, the "Hollowco$t" and Zionism?

    http://www.renegadetribune.com/catho...locaustianity/

    https://www.veteranstoday.com/2019/0...locaustianity/

    http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=375

    https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2...e-consumption/

    https://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Holocaustianity

    Who's tired of this White guilt?

    Remember, the Crucifixion is used to justify Christianization of the Gentiles, as Rome being the universal city and world capital of those who "profited" from the death of Jesus alongside the Siege of Masada, Destruction of the Temple and Jerusalem, "tainting" us to repent for it by disposing of Indo-European culture and enslavement to the Judæo-Christian reeducation narratives. We were impoverished by the Church to fatten murderous saints like Cyril of Alexandria, buggaring monks and today's pædophiles, with the promise of a better afterlife.

    Our ancestors were demons in the Old Testament and the B.C. period is consigned to oblivion, while our own individual national histories are dispensed as myth to be reconstructed by Christian "reality" on pain of death.

    Should we not reclaim pagan temples and holy groves? Why care about the proliferation of synagogues and mosques, without also being compelled to cry about their backdoors built into Europe burning down like at Notre Dame, yet no tears nor calls for rebuilding a place like Stonehenge?

    Christianity is the Trojan horse, as people are frightened into paralysis about the Hollowco$t. As long as some make excuses for holding synthetic Abrahamism in Christianity over our heads like the Sword of Damocles, Jews and Muslims have aces in the hole, thus Crucifixes are likely to give way to Stars of David being claimed as the Star of Bethlehem all this time anyway.

    Oh, Crusaders proved hostile to both Jews and Muslims, so we lost this spirit? Jews and Muslims kill each other all the time, fraternal origins notwithstanding. Why try rating up to their way of life and beg for "scraps from the master's table" like dogs that Jewsus and ilk all hated anyway? Miming Israelite life is somehow preferable to truly honoring thy mother and father?

    I'm not pro-Roman, but aghast at the snuffing of the Sacred Vestal Flame and rewriting history to A.D. rather than the Founding of Rome by Romulus and Remus, with all the agricultural cycles and festivals of the calendar being substituted with commemorations of the Catacomb Mob that fetishizes bones and believes in necromancing supposed powers of the dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaxonPagan View Post
    Quite true. The Thirty Years' War was initially a religious one but then took on a more political form to become a struggle between the Habsburgs and the rest of Europe.

    It was the Catholic v. Protestant issue that lit the touch paper though.
    The fact that it was actually a Wittelsbach-Habsburg feud may be lost on people. Should Bohemia belong to Bavaria or Austria? Of course, there was a balance of power issue, because of Burgundian Spain being combined in the rule of Charles V. Now, it would obviously be more convenient for all people, if Spain and Portugal did have an Iberian Union under the Braganzas, the Netherlands and Burgundy still together, perhaps under William the Silent, with Bavaria, Austria and Bohemia all under the Wittelsbachs, if Hungary and Croatia were held by the Habsburgs. That would have been fair and allowed regional identities to flourish naturally.

    Religion was a pretext to exploit, but if the Luxemburgers weren't in Bohemia, no defenestrations would have happened in Prague.

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    Not a Christian myself but rather agnostic however I don't cannot help but to notice that the decline of Christianity accompanies a decline in morals. By far the best contribution of Christianity IMO was its moral absolutism as well as a sense of eternal justice. This lead to people living a better, more humble life including and especially when nobody else watched. In their minds, god was always watching.

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    I was essentially raised with atheist nothingness - never baptized, taken to church, nor read the Bible (that said, my mother at least informed my sibling and I of our family's traditional Christian religion, within about a 5 minute conversation when we were children and mourning our dog's death (Mom: "You don't have to worry about death and your dog Daisy - when we die, we go to a place called Heaven; Jesus showed us that, etc.") - we also had about a dozen old family bibles and hymn books sitting in the den, some dating back nearly 150 years).

    I suspect Christianity did at certain points cause the European tribes to be less hostile towards each other and cooperate more so than when each nation had its own unique Gods; however, its track record is still pretty damning: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...icts_in_Europe.

    I know Christians will say: "Well, those were the actions/decisions of certain Monarchs and Emperors, not the Church." Fair enough, but if the religion was inadequate at preventing those types of rulers, then I think some criticism is justified. So yes, criticism number one is that it failed to prevent wars among our nations, and criticism number two is that Christianity is essentially the Jews' folklore with a Roman (addendum) version of their messiah figure (see Caesar's Messiah by Joseph Atwill for further information on that thesis).

    The question becomes: what would have happened (and still could) if we had a religion where the focus was faith in our respective peoples and nations (and Europe as a whole), instead of a derivation of the Jews' Middle Eastern folklore. Checkout my signature if you're especially bored for more info lol.
    We need a reservation system for our people and our own ethnic-nationalist faith, where we'll have sermons about our people and nations, real history, science, philosophy, etc., in addition to our older religions. Throw in some open bar nights, comedy club hours, music and dance, etc., and it'll be a cracker barrel of good times lol.

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