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    Quote Originally Posted by Caledonian View Post
    Don't forget Ethiopia.
    You are presumably laughing at the Italian defeat in 19th century Ethiopia, but Ethiopia had a modern military at the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ullrson View Post
    Had the Greeks fallen to Persia instead of vice versa Northern Europe could have been their next target, although I wouldn't be surprised if a tribal confederation could have beaten them with climate, tactics, ferocity, etc.
    Like the Ottomans the Achaemenids would have become overextended had they tried. In any case Persia had stimulated early Greek thought and left an obvious mark upon the Bible. Persian civilisation was thus not that alien to modern eyes and historically historians such as Childe viewed them as more Aryan than the Greeks, partly due to accepting mythologicised histories of the Greek mainland connecting the country to settlement by the Phoenicians or perhaps the Hyksos. (My own feeling is that the historic invasions had affected Crete.)

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    I love roman salute

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    ^ Apparently, the belief that was a Roman salute comes from a painting and there's not a lot of other evidence for it.

    On the main question, yes, there's no denying the greatness and influence of Greek and Roman culture. One of my favourite historical designs is the Corinthian helmet:

    https://itsallgreeklondon.files.word...ian-helmet.jpg

    There was a similar medieval Italian helmet called a barbuta/barbute: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbute

    At one of my schools we had six houses with different coloured badges: Celts, Greeks, Normans, Romans, Saxons and Vikings. I was in Romans (purple badge). The sports teacher used to call the Greeks "greasy Greeks" That would probably land him in trouble these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aelfgar View Post
    ^ Apparently, the belief that was a Roman salute comes from a painting and there's not a lot of other evidence for it.

    On the main question, yes, there's no denying the greatness and influence of Greek and Roman culture. One of my favourite historical designs is the Corinthian helmet:

    https://itsallgreeklondon.files.word...ian-helmet.jpg

    There was a similar medieval Italian helmet called a barbuta/barbute: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbute

    At one of my schools we had six houses with different coloured badges: Celts, Greeks, Normans, Romans, Saxons and Vikings. I was in Romans (purple badge). The sports teacher used to call the Greeks "greasy Greeks" That would probably land him in trouble these days.
    Salutatio imperatoria




    De bello civili
    De bello africo

    De bello iudaico


    Ancient Roman coin

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    Greco-Romans were the Latin Americans of ancient Mediterranean Europe. I no more draw distinction between Mexicans and Spaniards than I do between Americans and Britons. That goes for past as well as present. Before I knew better, I stared slack-jawed at Hercules and Xena on TV, but then again, it's not like there were Thor and Sif programmes to watch. I hate Mediterranean bias because it assumes a superiority at the expense of our supposedly inferiority. I would not cry if the Arabs annihilated Mediterranean societies everywhere, if only so we could swoop in and wipe them out in turn, then take from both all that remains. Otherwise, we ought to remain aloof from Jewish Zionism, Muslim Jihad and Catholic Crusade. If they want Armageddon, so be it. That doesn't have to be our problem. I'd rather be spelunking Hindu and Buddhist caves while backpacking and hitchhiking across Asia than put up with another Mediterranean-MENA dictatorship calling the shots in Germanic society.

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