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    Personally I love Classical Greek & Roman history (Greece a bit more than Rome)
    Mainly I love the architecture, statuary (art), ingenuity, religion, and warriors.
    Spartans and Legionaries are the pinnacle of ancient European military might. Despite the fact that I would still choose be a Celto-Germanic barbarian

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    Quote Originally Posted by Das Ubertarian View Post
    The inhabitants of Greece and Italy are not the Greeks and Romans. Centuries of mixing with slaves from Asia and Africa diluted their blood stream to the point that they became unrecognizable. Do you seriously think a bunch of 5'4'' swarthy Italians would've beaten the Gauls? I think not.
    We all know what happened when Mussolini tried to invade France:

    ...on the Côte d'Azur the Italian invasion was held up by a French NCO and seven men.

    That is why we don't talk about that part of the war, it would be too embarrassing to the Italians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neophyte View Post
    We all know what happened when Mussolini tried to invade France:

    ...on the Côte d'Azur the Italian invasion was held up by a French NCO and seven men.

    That is why we don't talk about that part of the war, it would be too embarrassing to the Italians.
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    National Socialism is the only salvation for Germanics and Europids everywhere. Capitalism, libertarianism, and communism is the enemy.

    National socialized collectivism must prevail over radical individualism.

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    I've read a lot on Greco-Roman history and myth. It was my first love in life.

    I have a lot of respect for their achievements in politics, warfare, the arts and sciences. But both groups became despotic, bureaucratic, cosmopolitan, imperial powers who eventually lost their own religions (and thus their own souls) in the multi-cultural goo they created. A warning for us all.

    I also find I am a lot closer to the values of the hearth and the meadhall exhibited by the ancient Germanic tribes than the pretentious philosophy dreamed up by the Greco-Roman elite.

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    The fact that my father is a Roman, makes my ties with the Roman culture stronger.

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    Well if it wasn't for them we may not have so many overpaid sports stars, since it was the great pursuit to mimic the celebrity gladiators in the Coliseum and Olympics that created modern commercial sports. Physical activity is good, but spectator sports and excessive worship/adoration of athletes is going overboard in today's world.

    I don't think they were any more "nordic" back then than they are today. Lombards and Goths have lingering genes in Northern Italy (Fabio, Hulk Hogan/Bollea, etc), no doubt, but the sculptures of leaders like Julius Caesar look nothing like classic Nordic features. They were Caucasian and European of course, but Nordic? Hardly. We really can't tell the tone of skin or hair color from statues, so who's to say the Caesars weren't as swarthy as Sylvester Stallone or Tony Danza with black hair? Guys like this seem to be better ringers for Julius than Dolph Lundgren or Brock Lesnar.

    Alexander, I think, could have been a blonde. At least that's the popular movie and painting depiction of him. He had curly hair though. Macedonians were quite a few miles north of the sea, and closer to the Black Sea where the Germanic tribes lingered for a time.

    Other than that architecture styles, culture and general way of life are different. Sure they built stuff and had an orderly society, but so did the Chinese, Egyptians and Japanese. That doesn't mean they were Germanic. Once an empire falls, not only do the foreign peoples they attracted compromise the identity of the nation and empire, but there is a target on that country's back once it weakens. It's old tributaries are now the masters and will not let it rise again. That is the real reason great empires don't usually rise in the same place twice. The same will probably happen to America and Britain over time.

    Notwithstanding Rome used the "Church" to rule over Europe when it found out Germans were very serious about their militaries. When the body and weapons defeats you, attack the very soul of the people. I consider my self a believer in the Christ, but Catholicism to me is an obvious ploy to fight back and hold on to the crumbs (or should I say chunks of iron) of the Roman empire. Martin Luther and Daniel in the Bible thought so too.

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    In my opinion: totally overrated by the film industry and other brainwashing mechanisms like education system.

    Why do I see Roman propaganda films like "The Eagle" still to this day? That movie was pitiful along with all the others like it, showing a 'disciplined and honorable' conquering force. Oh, boo hoo dying Romans, why are you even there? It reminds me of US troops today.

    It all probably has something to do with the Catholic Church... All they've done is remove the indigenous religion of the Germanic man and destroy his blood. Even to the darker people's, all they've done is destroy their religions which were taught to them by the Germanic man. They've truly created chaos in this world - fear, confusion and insanity. I think Gnostic and Arian Christianity were accepted by some Germanics, but Athanasianism was definitely forced on most of them.

    Whatever 'light' they theoretically brought to the world in ancient times was done by blue eyes. That is, the original founders of the Athenian philosophical society and even Rome were Germanics. As the blood became contaminated, their light was put out.

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    At least roman heroism is better then celtic hollywood americanism; Trying to compare woads to freedom fighters.. Or the illusion that woads had trebuchechets, longbows, merlin, and that a late roman army of 7 sarmations can defeate a saxon groop of hundred...

    Yeah, right.

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    The Greek and Roman histories where in many ways the result of the never -ending racial, economic and military struggles in Asia -Minor. To understand Greek-Roman history one needs to understand the loss of Asia minor to the effects of multi-culture and invading armies seeking plunder. Asia minor, was home to great indo european civilizations such as the Medes, Persians and babylonians these higher forms of civilization fell in the same manner as ancient Egypt, the use of non-white labor, immigration of Negros and Semities . The Negro and Semite was the known enemies of Egypt until over time the indo-european stocks became to weak to resist. Add the competition between white cultures for regional power and we see the rise of Ancient Greek and Roman civilization. Both Greece and the Roman empire also became weak and fell through the use and acceptance of the Negro and Semite, the Northern hives did add better stock to the gene pool but Germanic culture was centuries behind what had evolved in Asia Minor.
    The story of Rome and the Greeks is long and a sad tale of reality.

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    I have recommended a book here before, and Elessar bought it after my recommendation and liked it.

    Terry Jones - Barbarians


    In the Monty Python film Life of Brian, a member of the People's Front of Judea asks, "What have the Romans ever done for us?" (apart from, of course, the "sanitation, medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh water system and public health"). The director of that movie—and now popular historian—Jones (Who Murdered Chaucer?), along with Ereira (The People's England), now answer the question: a bit, but nowhere near as much as the barbarians did. Jones attempts to overturn the popular conception of the glorious Roman Empire, which he says is mostly propaganda, and claims that the barbarians—a general term describing the tribes of western and northern Europe, as well as of the Middle East—have for too long been slandered as "savages" by the allegedly more advanced and civilized Romans and their descendants. In fact, these assorted Celts, Vandals, Persians and Goths were technologically, economically and intellectually sophisticated, but were on the wrong side of history. While scholars will sniff at Jones's offhand humor, somewhat wide-eyed "revelations"—which have been revealed before—and tendency to believe the vastly exaggerated death tolls of the time (he relies on Plutarch's figure that Julius Caesar slaughtered a million Gauls, a virtually impossible feat), readers will go along for a most enjoyable ride and appreciate his fascinating tale of the barbarians' lost world. 24 pages of color photos, maps. (Sept. 15)
    The celts had roads before romans, the celts invented the swords which the romans used etc. Also very much interesting about germanics.

    There is a show too, but havnt watched it.

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