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    Exclamation ANC is Going to Take the Farms and Implement Communism in South Africa


    State plans strict new curbs on land rights

    WYNDHAM HARTLEY Published: 2010/03/25 06:40:08 AM




    Rural Development and Land Affairs Minister Gugile Nkwinti yesterday failed to put out the fires raging over suggestions that productive farmland could be nationalised, instead raising new fears with a proposal that appears to curb property rights.
    Recently, the department’s director-general, Tozi Gwanya, caused a stir when he tabled in Parliament a strategic plan that proposed declaring all productive land a national asset, implying nationalisation. Critics, including farmers’ group AgriSA, argued the proposals were a smokescreen to hide the department’s bungled implementation of land reforms.

    AgriSA and opposition parties have warned of a devastating effect on agricultural investment. Yesterday, introducing his budget vote in the National Assembly, Nkwinti opened a new can of worms with the announcement that his department would soon propose, in a green paper, a three-tier system of land tenure. This meant the introduction of a qualified freehold for private land, leasehold for state land, and “precarious tenure” for foreigners.

    The freehold with “limited extent” for private ownership was not explained, but the intention could be to set a limit on how much land can be owned by an individual. It also appears that the intention is to deny freehold to foreigners unless they are in partnership with South Africans.

    Summing up the debate, Nkwinti tried to provide some reassurance, saying he had not even mentioned the issue of nationalisation and that changes to the property clause (section 25) of the constitution had not been raised in the African National Congress. “So, we have not spoken at all about any nationalisation of land. So let’s kill that debate, it’s not there,” Nkwinti said. The green paper would be submitted to the Cabinet soon and probably to Parliament by the end of next month.

    In responding, AgriSA president Johannes Möller warned that Nkwinti’s proposals might have negative long-term implications for agriculture. He said the minister had “made it clear that the state would place limits on private land ownership”.

    Freedom Front Plus MP Pieter Groenewald accused Nkwinti of failing to address the issue. He said there had been great anticipation of Nkwinti’s budget vote speech in the hope of assurances that the property clause of the constitution would not be tampered with. He said many wanted clarity on section 25 and private property rights, and “you have been too vague”.

    Democratic Alliance MP Annette Steyn said the department had “broken that thin line that creates a stable environment and leads to prosperity”. Nkwinti acknowledged that the government’s land reform programmes had not been sustainable and had not provided the expected benefits to recipients.

    To date, about 6-million hectares had been transferred through restitution and redistri- bution. Much of this land was not productive and had not created any economic benefit for owners. “There has been an overemphasis on hectares at the expense of development and food security.”

    Nkwinti said his department would spend about R900m in the 2010-11 financial year to refinance its failed land reform programme aimed at transferring 30% of farmland to blacks, and to boost food security and create jobs.


    Source: http://www.businessday.co.za/articles/Content.aspx?id=104501
    Any doubts that the ANC was and is still a communist organisation? Give it time they will "nationalize" farm land and then they will also confiscate mines, industry and businesses on a large scale.
    "And God proclaims as a first principle to the rulers, and above all else, that there is nothing which they should so anxiously guard, or of which they are to be such good guardians, as of the purity of the race. They should observe what elements mingle in their offspring;..." Plato Politeia

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    Land transfer: how to get it right: black farmers who have been resettled on formerly white-owned agricultural lands are forming unlikely but practical alliances with the former owners. The white farmers are swapping commercial-skills training for long-term leases--thus, hopefully, avoiding neighbouring Zimbabwe's dreadful land-reform fate. Tom Nevin reports.
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    They want the white owned land, but cant use it without the white farmer's know how... They are placing the cart in front of the horses... Stupidity and colour has a direct link...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Horagalles View Post
    Any doubts that the ANC was and is still a communist organisation? Give it time they will "nationalize" farm land and then they will also confiscate mines, industry and businesses on a large scale.
    It's pointless going on about "Communism", it's too vague. "Capitalism" where everything belongs to THE CORPORATIONS (very popular model in the West and also being implemented in Eastern Europe) is another form of Communism. Most "Westerners" are just too daft to realise this.

    Rather just describe the ANC for what they are - corrupt, inept thieving blacks heavily influenced and controlled by Zionist Jews and Internationalists and Bankers / Moneymen from the West's major "trading" centers.

    Incidentally, the "white-ish" opposition DA Party also happens to be dominated by Jewish / Zionist interests. It's a neat little trick to bet on all the horses in a race. By covering all eventualities they ensure that we'll get nowhere.

    The sooner the whiteys in SA start realising that the DA isn't going to save them from the ANC's clutches and that nobody is coming to help the better. They need to switch off that mind-control rubbish pumped out on M-Net, forget about their damn cricket and rugby and start preparing to fight or leave.

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    They want the white owned land, but cant use it without the white farmer's know how... They are placing the cart in front of the horses... Stupidity and colour has a direct link...
    Yes and no. In countries like Nigeria and Mozambique they welcome white SA and Zimbabwean farmers and recognise that they need their expertise and assistance to boost local agriculture.

    Zimbabwean and South African landgrabs have more to it than "black stupidity". It's part of an agenda to disenfranchise whites and to put the country under total control of the puppets in power and those who "advise" and control them namely the Internationalists and Zionists. By kicking the white farmers and landowners off their land conditions are created whereby the country now has to import more and more of its food. (A ridiculous situation as SA is more than capable of being entirely self-sufficient). The International Food Supply Corporations (owned by you-know-who) gain massive influence and power over the country etc.

    Kissinger once remarked on how to control the world and listed control over energy, money supplies and food as some the primary targets. The black dummies play neatly into the hands of their masters.

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    Julius Malema, die omstrede jeugleier van die ANC, het eergister in Zimbabwe gesê dat sy party ZANU-PF se voorbeeld gaan volg en teen die einde van die jaar gaan begin om plase in blanke besit oor te neem.

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    'n Lid van ZANU-PF se veiligheidsdepartement het verlede week aan die Zimbabwe Mail gesê dat Malema se besoek aan Zimbabwe in opvolg van 'n geheime hoëvlakgesprek tussen Robert Mugabe en Jacob Zuma geskied het. Blykbaar het Mugabe reeds vir Zuma oortuig en sy "volgehoue steun in Suid-Afrika se grondhervormings- en verinheemsingsproses verseker".

    Verlede week het 'n hoëvlakafvaardiging van Suid-Afrika se veiligheids- en intelligensiedienste, wat noue bande met die ANC het, in Harare aangekom waar hulle 'n tyd lank aan die Zimbabwiese Nasionale Weermag se Stafkollege in Harare opleiding sal ondergaan.
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    Yes it isn't exactly a surprise what our dear Rainbow Nation "brother" has been keeping himself busy with in Zimbabwe.

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    HARARE - South Africa’s ruling party ANC is planning Zimbabwean style land invasions after the FIFA 2010 World Cup, amid reports Zimbabwe’s Zanu PF and War Veterans Association will provide crucial support for the programme, sources in Zimbabwe said on Monday.

    Controversial African National Congress Youth League (ANCYL) President, Julius Malema, is set to visit Zimbabwe for a series of meetings with Zanu PF counterparts.

    The crucial visit will go a long way in exchanging ideas and preparatory stages for both logistics and mobilisation for sporadic land invasions across the country.

    A member of the Zanu PF security department told our reporter that the basis of Malema’s visit to Harare is a follow up to a secret discussion between President Mugabe and his South African counterpart Jacob Zuma, three weeks ago.

    The source said when South African President Jacob Zuma visited Zimbabwe during the coalition talks between Zanu PF and the MDC, he discussed at length, matters ranging from the British media’s personal attacks on his private life during the recent visit to the United Kingdom and the need to expedite South African land reform.

    It is at this stage that Mugabe converted Zuma into his camp, and the two leaders agreed to join hands in actively assisting each other in the land reform and indigenisation process.

    This week, a high-level delegation in the South African security forces, intelligence and media with close links to the ruling party ANC are travelling to Zimbabwe and they will spend three months training at the Zimbabwe National Army’s Staff College.

    Senior Zimbabwe National army officers who led Zimbabwe’s land invasions will train their South African counterparts and impart knowledge based on their experiences.

    A source said, South African land invasion factor is the reason why Zimbabwean President Mugabe has identified Jabulani Sibanda as the prefered choice to lead the Zimbabwe War Veterans Association in the association’s reported power struggles.

    Sibanda's speaks Ndebele and this is an important factor in his abilities to communicate with South Africa's ANC land invadors, the source said.

    Zanu PF Youth League national secretary for administration Leslie Ncube said Malema was visiting Zimbabwe to discuss and share ideas on "youth empowerment and revolutionary tactics".
    "The ANCYL president will be arriving next week. It will be a three-day visit and other executive members of the ANC youth league will accompany him," Ncube said.

    The Zanu PF youth official said the ANC and his party have enjoyed cordial relationships that date back to the liberation struggle adding these ties would be further strengthened by Malema’s visit.

    "We share the same revolutionary history and they (visiting delegates) are coming to learn from our agrarian reform and indigenisation.

    "The ANC is about to expand its land reforms, and we will share advice and discuss how resources should be equitably distributed to the youth and also how they can benefit from natural resources such as mining," Ncube said.

    Speaking to South African media, Gugule Nkwinti, the Minister of Rural Development and Land Reform accused white farmers of scuttling the land reform programme by frustrating government’s willing buyer willing seller policy through inflating prices.

    He warned South Africa risks sinking into chaos as the patience of new black farmers is running thin as evidenced by sporadic farm invasions.

    "If South Africans who own land  don’t recognise the reality on the ground  and can no walk the mind with government in terms of what is proposed right now then in fact they are the ones who will be responsible for creating conditions of chaos which can be worse than what has been witnessed in Zimbabwe," said Nkwinti.

    Africa’s economic giant needs R 75 billion to acquire 80 million hectares of land by 2014 but this target will not be reached as national coffers are running dry as a result of a litany of service delivery issues that needs to be addressed such as a long housing back log, water and electricity deliveries to millions of households.

    Nkwinti said the South African government is working on a policy aimed at addressing the land inequalities urging farm owners to be more flexible in land redistribution negotiations.

    He said the new policy is about preventing going the disastrous way of distributing land like the one witnessed in Zimbabwe where President Robert Mugabe’s government forcibly took land from previous white owners in chaotic scenes that left many dead since the inception of the programme in 2000.

    "This about preventing Zimbabwe," said Nkwinti.

    He did not elaborate on whether his government will consider amending the constitution to enable it to forcibly take land like what happened in their northern neighbours where the government had to pass legislation to change the constitution allowing it to compulsorily acquire land from white farmers.

    Nkwinti said just like in Zimbabwe where about 4000 white farmers owned most of the country’s arable land, land in South Africa is concentrated in the hands of a few land owners, most of whom are foreigners.

    "We have a major monopoly of land ownership in South Africa and we must break that monopoly," said Nkwinti.

    Nkwinti earlier this month told parliament that the government was adopting a "use it or lose it" policy to encourage increased production capacity but his weekend comments appear to be a shift towards a more radical policy.

    Thousands of poor black South Africans, most of whom still live in abject poverty because of the apartheid era system are waiting for land promised at independence in 1994 and often repeated in campaign speeches by current President Jacob Zuma in his quest for political office last year.

    Just like Zimbabwe, South Africa inherited an unjust land ownership system from the apartheid governments which parceled out all the best farm land to white farmers, leaving blacks to arid land not fit for agricultural purposes.

    The South African government has in the past said it will not go it the Zimbabwe way and often move quickly to crush land related protests and attempts at invading farms owned by white farmers though it has largely been unable to stop farm murders but this time it appears it is starting to feel the people power.

    Farm seizures are blamed for plunging Zimbabwe – once a net exporter of the staple maize grain – into severe food shortages since 2001 after black peasant farmers resettled on former white farms failed to maintain production because the government failed to support them with financial resources, inputs and skills training.
    http://www.thezimbabwemail.com/zimbabwe/4904.html
    Although the word "Commando" was wrongly used to describe all Boer soldiers, a commando was a unit formed from a particular district. None of the units was organized in regular companies, battalions or squadrons. The Boer commandos were individualists who were difficult to control, resented formal discipline or orders, and earned a British jibe that"every Boer was his own general".

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    Well, it sounds all a little like they're perfectly clear about what they are planning to do: Disown white farmers who oft have ancestors in the country that owned the same plot of land for a couple of centuries and hand it over to blacks with a sub-standard knowledge of how to run a farm in the name of "humanitarian destruction of a racist precedent", kind of strange in what package they wrap their very own racist, anti-White, agenda.
    -In kalte Schatten versunken... /Germaniens Volk erstarrt / Gefroren von Lügen / In denen die Welt verharrt-
    -Die alte Seele trauernd und verlassen / Verblassend in einer erklärbaren Welt / Schwebend in einem Dunst der Wehmut / Ein Schrei der nur unmerklich gellt-
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    Quote Originally Posted by Horagalles View Post
    Any doubts that the ANC was and is still a communist organisation? Give it time they will "nationalize" farm land and then they will also confiscate mines, industry and businesses on a large scale.
    The ANC aren't true Communists. True Communists nationalise assets for equal redistribution for the betterment of the nation. Real Communists educate the masses, they embark on massive social and engineering showcase projects in order to promote their vision of utopia.

    The ANC "pretend" to adhere to Communism when in fact they are nothing more than an unwashed mob of looters. The ANC don't understand for nor care for the most basic principles of a marginally functional Communist system. It's just a convenient ticket to sell to those who have nothing and think they will get "state" money for nothing.

    It is likely that the ANC will confiscate assets throughout the country but keep in mind that certain uhm.... "business people" and corporations are likely to be allowed to continue their work. Remember, the ANC still need money from somewhere to keep them in the style they are accustomed to.

    Therefore they will combine forces with the same forces who guided, assisted and advised them during the "struggle" era to loot the country at the expense of "the people" whom they claim to represent.

    By equal token, the SACP (South African Communist Party) are a mob of often Eastern European (Lithuanian in particular) Zionist Scheissters wearing a Communist badge of convenience. In the former Soviet Union and pre-revolutionary era Russia these people were known as Bolsheviks. Today they have reinvented themselves in the USA and are often grouped around the "Neo Conservative" identity.

    It's the same mafia hiding under different names, identities and supposedly different ideologies.

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    Is the Weerstandsbeweging planning anything during the World Cup? That would the time with the biggest publicity?
    weel nich will dieken dej mot wieken

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocko View Post
    Is the Weerstandsbeweging planning anything during the World Cup? That would the time with the biggest publicity?
    Hopefully not because ZOG News will have a field day with this.

    The best publicity for the AWB would be to just lie low and let ANC supporters make all the headlines for robbing, raping and murdering tourists during the WC. (pun intended)

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