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    Who Supports US Foreign Policy?

    In the "Is Anti-Americanism Justified?" thread there are some that argue weather the reasons for and opposition to US foreign policy are in coherence with ethnic Nationalism and the differing forms of ethnic preservation most of us preach. I would like to illustrate this with a quote from the thread.

    In having just read through this thread, I actually found it rather enlightening. I was surprised and somewhat disturbed to see as many racialists with hardline political views, opposing American foreign policy based largely on liberal humanitarian arguments. I appreciate that historically not everyone would agree with how America lined up, certainly not against fellow Germanic people...but opposing military action on principle, seems at best, a determination to maintain weakness...at worst, hoping to buy sympathy and support from the foreign hordes waiting to supplant us.
    This got me thinking who oppose US foreign policy among ethnic Nationalist parties, organizations, and thinkers in Sweden and the simple answer is all of them. But who supports it? And I could not think of anyone I know of domestically or abroad that supports the current US foreign policy either, not in America or else ware. To my knowledge BNP does not, David Duke, Kevin MacDonald certainly doesn't...

    So my question is who among ethnic Nationalists supports US foreign policy such as :
    *Pro-War in Afganistan, Iraq, (Iran) and spreading of democracy and freedom by force and war
    *American-Israeli relations
    *Support for Israel in the Palestinian-Israeli conflict
    *Pro-War on terror

    If you can, please provide some sort of basic data for your claims as it is easier to exactly determine what they support and what they do not.
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    I haven't looked into it enough to give anything resembling a comprehensive overview, but Geert Wilders, the Norwegian Progress Party, the Danish People's Party, and the Berlusconi government (among others) have all taken positions that could easily be broadly deemed pro-US. Whether people here consider those people 'ethnic nationalists' is up to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe McCarthy View Post
    I haven't looked into it enough to give anything resembling a comprehensive overview, but Geert Wilders, the Norwegian Progress Party, the Danish People's Party, and the Berlusconi government (among others) have all taken positions that could easily be broadly deemed pro-US. Whether people here consider those people 'ethnic nationalists' is up to them.
    Well a good starting point would be if they them selves consider their views as ethnic Nationalists witch non of them do. Its not up to our perception of their views to categorize what they are. Its about the actual issue of being ethnic Nationalist or not, Geert Wilders, the Norwegian Progress Party, the Danish People's Party, and the Berlusconi government are not ethnic Nationalists as far as I know but by all means prove me wrong.

    Also this has nothing to do with being pro-USA or not, the issue is US foreign policy. Lets not cloud the words here.

    But it is a valid point as it shows that the bigger supporter of Israel you are the more you support these issues of War in the middle east.

    But the original question stands unanswered
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    The question should read:

    "Who supports U.S. foreign policy as dictated by jews and not the American people?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oxygen View Post
    Well a good starting point would be if they them selves consider their views as ethnic Nationalists witch non of them do. Its not up to our perception of their views to categorize what they are. Its about the actual issue of being ethnic Nationalist or not, Geert Wilders, the Norwegian Progress Party, the Danish People's Party, and the Berlusconi government are not ethnic Nationalists as far as I know but by all means prove me wrong.

    Also this has nothing to do with being pro-USA or not, the issue is US foreign policy. Lets not cloud the words here.

    But it is a valid point as it shows that the bigger supporter of Israel you are the more you support these issues of War in the middle east.

    But the original question stands unanswered
    Well, if you ask me, the question is rather poorly framed, as figures like Duke and MacDonald, and even the BNP, are pretty irrelevant politically. The people I mentioned are far more relevant, whether they're technically ethnic nationalists or not, and on the whole, I'd say they're not.

    I think it'd be better to say these groups tend to support Israel because of their animosity toward Islam. In my view that's an astute political move. Perhaps it'd do for you or others to explain how Denmark or Holland, etc., are hurt by these parties supporting Israel? I personally see it as basically a non-issue in the overall scheme of things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe McCarthy View Post
    Well, if you ask me, the question is rather poorly framed, as figures like Duke and MacDonald, and even the BNP, are pretty irrelevant politically. The people I mentioned are far more relevant, whether they're technically ethnic nationalists or not, and on the whole, I'd say they're not.
    So start your own thread and formulate a "better" question then instead of yappin in this one.

    I think it'd be better to say these groups tend to support Israel because of their animosity toward Islam. In my view that's an astute political move. Perhaps it'd do for you or others to explain how Denmark or Holland, etc., are hurt by these parties supporting Israel? I personally see it as basically a non-issue in the overall scheme of things.
    Yeah, a very astute political move indeed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oxygen View Post
    So start your own thread and formulate a "better" question then instead of yappin in this one.


    Yeah, a very astute political move indeed.
    The last I checked Zionists weren't terrorizing the streets of Copenhagen or Rotterdam, nor were they threatening to replace the indigenous populations there. Israel is not a threat to Europe in anything resembling Islamic proportions. These parties have properly prioritized, and it is why they are gaining ground on serious issues while guys like Duke are stuck giving lectures to Muslims in Damascus and Tehran.

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    Amongst white ethnic nationalists, no internationally recognized figures or parties that I know of support American foreign policy. Though I wouldn't actually consider Kevin MacDonald's A3P as especially noteworthy or recognized. The very small number and lesser caliber of these figures and parties is rather disheartening in itself. I know amongst continental Europeans there are more numerous and effective parties, than there exists in the Anglosphere.

    Virtually none of these figures or parties are especially hardline, none are National Socialists, self-described Fascists, really nothing of a militant, autocratic or totalitarian nature...which was the reason for my surprise on the other thread. In fact, arguments can be made that some are themselves guilty of either deliberately defending weakness or courting foreign hordes. I would cite Duke's various expeditions to the Middle East, speaking to crowds in Syria, as an example of pandering to those foreign hordes.

    It is my sincere belief that far more of the mainstream white populace in the West, does support American foreign policy, including many in Europe under the boot of Islam...these are not self-described National Socialists or Fascists, yet they take a harder line. I found this somewhat disturbing.

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    To Joe

    Hey if you want to contribute to the topic of this thread fine, thats great, but you are not! I guess you are far to busy posting all your important opinions to actually read what anyone else have to say or what the topic is about.

    Now if you want to discuss what Donald Duck thinks of US foreign policy or how to get in Bibi Netanyahu pants I all for that, but this is not the place to do it buddy. Stick to the topic or you know, try containing all that important stuff to your self.

    So...who among ethnic Nationalists supports US foreign policy is the topic for everyone, including Joe sics (A)pac.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oxygen View Post
    Hey if you want to contribute to the topic of this thread fine, thats great, but you are not! I guess you are far to busy posting all your important opinions to actually read what anyone else have to say or what the topic is about.

    Now if you want to discuss what Donald Duck thinks of US foreign policy or how to get in Bibi Netanyahu pants I all for that, but this is not the place to do it buddy. Stick to the topic or you know, try containing all that important stuff to your self.

    So...who among ethnic Nationalists supports US foreign policy is the topic for everyone, including Joe sics (A)pac.
    I imagine Iran gets more support from strictly 'ethnic nationalists' than the United States if you want an answer to your question. That says far more about ethnic nationalists than it does the United States in my opinion.

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