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    Moslem Gangs Imposing Sharia Law in British Prisons

    Non-Muslim inmates at the high-security Long Lartin jail have been forced by the gangs to stop playing "Western" music and take down pictures of women from their cells, according to one former prison officer there. Prisoners at the jail, although allowed to cook their own food, are not allowed to prepare pork for fear of offending the Muslim inmates, the officer said.

    The officer, speaking to Radio Five Live's Donal Macintyre show, told how younger prisoners were targeted for forced conversion to Islam by the gangs. "They went along because they were intimidated. They genuinely weren't of the Muslim faith," she said. "I knew one lad quite well, who was approached by the radical Muslims and he changed. He was being controlled and bossed around and he wasn't even allowed to look at me or speak to me.

    "He just seemed very frightened all the time. He used to be forced to pray at certain times and he was even forced to grow a long beard even though he didn't want to."

    One Catholic prisoner who refused to convert was seriously assaulted after being repeatedly threatened by the gang, the officer said. "He said every so often they would come to his cell and hold the Koran up through the small window in the cell door and start running their fingers along their throats," she said.

    The officer's testimony is consistent with findings by the official prison watchdog, the chief inspector of prisons. In a report last year, the inspector, Anne Owers, quoted a number of prisoners at Long Lartin about the increasing dominance of Muslim gangs in the jail.

    Long Lartin was, said one, "turning into an American-style jail, [where] if you are not in a gang, you're in trouble. People are converting to Islam for protection."

    Another said: "There is a gang culture here, which is an issue. There are issues with Muslim gangs wanting to overpower others. A lot of people are becoming Muslim just because it is a bigger gang."

    Ms Owers says there is a similar gang culture in at least three other high-security prisons, Whitemoor in Cambridgeshire, Belmarsh in south-east London and Full Sutton in North Yorkshire. Some of the gang leaders are terrorist prisoners but most are in for ordinary offences.

    Two Muslim former prisoners claimed in the BBC programme that Muslims "run" some London jails and describe how they watched al-Qaeda videos in their cells, brought in by corrupt prison officers. They also detail further bullying and abuse of prisoners who refused to convert to Islam and said that in one London jail, prisoners who wanted to play music had their stereos smashed. They said that the official prison imams appointed by the Home Office were largely ineffective and not respected by Muslim prisoners.

    Malcolm Moss, national chair of the Prison Officers' Association, said: "We are seeing more and more Muslim gangs in our prisons. Often Muslims who go to prison are forced into gangs for their own protection. And that culture takes over a wing, takes over an area of the prison. We see it as a real danger, now and for the future of prisons."

    Mr Moss called for more Muslim prison officers to be recruited as part of an urgent effort to "face up" to the gangs.

    A spokesman for the Ministry of Justice said: "It is ridiculous to suggest that any gang 'controls' a prison. The Prison Service has a wealth of experience in dealing with gang activity and managing prisoners who form gangs. Expert staff identify, challenge and disrupt those prisoners attempting to bully, influence or intimidate others. We have long established strategies to address gang behaviour, and to counter bullying, combat illicit mobile phones and tackle drugs."

    The spokesman said there was "no evidence" that al-Qaeda videos had been watched and insisted that bacon was not banned.

    Source http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...h-prisons.html

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    This doesn’t surprise me at all. In effect the prisons are a kind of microcosm for the future of Britain. Obviously they are still too small at this point, (you would not think so if you went to Yorkshire), but once they have a big enough majority, they can start push their weight around.

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    I'm really kind of curious....why aren't the White Prisoners in the UK fighting back?

    Although Whites are a minority in the prison system here compared with Blacks and Mexicans if this sort of thing happened here in the US White Gangs like the 'Aryan Brotherhood', 'AB of TX', 'NLR', 'Aryan Circle', 'European Kindred', 'Soldiers of the Aryan Culture', 'The Dirty Whiteboys', 'So. Cal P.K.Woods', 'The Hammerskins', 'The Georgia Boys', all the various Outlaw M.C. Clubs and groups and gangs just like them would be going on a stabbing, beating and schlocking spree straight from the getgo.

    I'm not saying that any of these groups are all made up of 'nice guys' or that they're anyone to emulate in regards to their morals (some of those mentioned above are an exception to the rule though), but they'd get the job done and they wouldn't allow White Prisoners of European Heritage to get run over by a bunch of Muslims seeking to impose their idea of law on the rest of them.

    When the Muslim gangs tried this kind of thing in Denmark the Outlaw Bikers fought back (since the police wouldn't do anything about them, afterall that would be Racist).

    19 January 2010
    Six murders, 34 attempted murders in Danish Muslim gang war

    Politiken - Julian Isherwood

    The Anti-gang Unit of the Copenhagen Police Force has provided figures for 2009 gang-related crime showing that there were six murders and 34 attempted murders.

    2009 also saw 121 people remanded in custody. Twenty-eight cases have been concluded with sentences for either weapons or narcotics offences. Fifty-eight people are still in custody on charges ranging from murder, attempted murder, violence , weapons or narcotics crimes or extortion. A further 24 have been released but remain under charge, while charges against 10 people have been dropped.

    The figures come as Copenhagen is experiencing a period of relative calm in the gang warfare that has previously plagued the capital. The last shooting was in October 2009 when a Hells Angels biker was shot by two young Muslim men on a moped. Gang warfare has predominantly been between bikers and Muslim immigrant gangs.

    “I can’t comment on why we are in a calm period at the moment. We hope the Muslim gangs will keep it that way. We will be continuing our concept of intensive investigation and police in the streets to make them safe for citizens,” Copenhagen Anti-gang Unit Chief Henrik Svindt tells TV2.

    “We have managed to take some of the leding figures out of circulation for shorter or longer periods,” says Svindt.
    ‘Gangwar’ - Muslims vs Bikers (the only ones not afraid to fight back, I guess).

    The bloody conflict between immigrant gangs and bikers can only be stopped if responsible immigrants take responsibility and ‘clean up in their own ranks,” according to the Hells Angels biker group on its website. The recipe for a solution to the ongoing gang warfare in Denmark comes in answer to a contribution on the Hells Angels website from an anonymous immigrant.
    I'm not saying that violence is always the answer, but if people are attacking you, murdering your friends or trying to cut off your hands because it's in their law to do so the European Prisoners have the right to defend themselves and fight back.

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    It is a question I have often thought myself, when one compares the British and US prison system.

    I don't think people aboard realize how stupid most English people are in terms of political or racial awareness. Most people here are so brainwash, that I believe simply it would not occur to them to group together in racial groups or atleast in White groups.

    Secondly, if any of the prisoners in British prisons tried to form a gang on racial grounds, I am sure that they would split up immediately, and sent either to other prisons or put in with all the blacks.

    We have gangsters, child molesters, rapists running the streets (and some would say in government) but God forbid any group of racial aware English folk becoming too powerful, inside or outside prison.


    Although I have not been inside a prison, this is pure conjecture. But it is what life is like on the outside.

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    Control of the prisons has little to do the inmates, but more to do with infrastructure and support networks from the outside. Gangs, no matter what racial make-up, cannot last long in prison without outside support from those that funnel them money or the means to make money and violence.

    In many American prison, pork is no longer served due to Muslim pressure. The pressure is not from the inside, but from the outside people who pressure the system to adopt the changes those on the inside "require".

    I look at an occurence like this in a British prison and it is not hard to figure out how it could occur: Britian is now largely a Muslim country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irby View Post
    It is a question I have often thought myself, when one compares the British and US prison system.

    I don't think people aboard realize how stupid most English people are in terms of political or racial awareness. Most people here are so brainwash, that I believe simply it would not occur to them to group together in racial groups or atleast in White groups.
    Aren't there groups of Skinheads, people in the BNP/National Front or Bikers in the UK who are sick of this kind of thing?

    I've heard that there are, but I have no idea of what the numbers of those groups are like.

    Secondly, if any of the prisoners in British prisons tried to form a gang on racial grounds, I am sure that they would split up immediately, and sent either to other prisons or put in with all the blacks.
    Yeah, they tried that kind of thing here too.

    The only thing it did was spread the White Gangs to other prisons and make the members even meaner than they were before.

    In short it didn't work out too well for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary in TX View Post
    Aren't there groups of Skinheads, people in the BNP/National Front or Bikers in the UK who are sick of this kind of thing?

    I've heard that there are, but I have no idea of what the numbers of those groups are like.

    It is very uncommon to find any groups of like minded men together for any other reason than football. Our country is falling apart, but all the young men in England can do is watch football!!!

    Back in the 1970's and 1980's, we had quite a large size group of skinheads, but not anymore, they are quite old now and there has not been many young people taking up the fight.

    The BNP used to get protection from Combat 18, but in the end it was ridiculous, every person who became involved ended up being arrested. Most people now think the C18 was just police undercover operation to get nationalists. Today everywhere the BNP go, there are hundreds of lefty scum, who are usually supported by the police, against a hand full of British nationalists. The problem is that a lot of BNP now are just ordinary people (old and middle aged people) and not street fighters.

    We don't really have 'bikers' in Britain, or at least in Northern England, from what I have seen.

    The fact is that most young English, a just too 'stoned' to care, and the ones that do care, just end up in prison. They get social security money, and spend it on drugs and drink, that is it, nothing else.

    I think a lot of North Americans maybe think of England how it was, the 'bulldog sprit' and all that. That has gone, the best British (and Germans) all died in the two pointless world wars. What is left shocks and saddens my daily and has done all my life.

    Sorry if this sound pessimistic, but when you are outnumbers about 100,000 to 1, you start to lose faith in ever seeing old England again. All I can see is mosques, black and brown faces and a race of English who could not care less.

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    Well...that's ironic.

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    Admittedly it is an after-thought....

    But wouldn't it be neat if the English gaols were 100% Muslim and 0% English?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irby View Post
    It is very uncommon to find any groups of like minded men together for any other reason than football. Our country is falling apart, but all the young men in England can do is watch football!!!

    Back in the 1970's and 1980's, we had quite a large size group of skinheads, but not anymore, they are quite old now and there has not been many young people taking up the fight.

    The BNP used to get protection from Combat 18, but in the end it was ridiculous, every person who became involved ended up being arrested. Most people now think the C18 was just police undercover operation to get nationalists. Today everywhere the BNP go, there are hundreds of lefty scum, who are usually supported by the police, against a hand full of British nationalists. The problem is that a lot of BNP now are just ordinary people (old and middle aged people) and not street fighters.

    We don't really have 'bikers' in Britain, or at least in Northern England, from what I have seen.

    The fact is that most young English, a just too 'stoned' to care, and the ones that do care, just end up in prison. They get social security money, and spend it on drugs and drink, that is it, nothing else.

    I think a lot of North Americans maybe think of England how it was, the 'bulldog sprit' and all that. That has gone, the best British (and Germans) all died in the two pointless world wars. What is left shocks and saddens my daily and has done all my life.

    Sorry if this sound pessimistic, but when you are outnumbers about 100,000 to 1, you start to lose faith in ever seeing old England again. All I can see is mosques, black and brown faces and a race of English who could not care less.
    Wow, that's pretty bleak.

    And I thought that things were bad here.

    Here it's pretty bad and the news tries to act as though everyone's all politically correct, but we still have people that get absolutely pissed off and they do something about it when it gets to a boil.

    Case in point.

    Bikers and ordinary White citizens drive off Black Muslims from Joe Horns home (*Click*)

    Just in case you don't know who Joe Horn is.

    Joe Horn 'Shooting Controversy' From Wikipedia (*Click*)

    The Joe Horn shooting controversy refers to the events of November 14, 2007, in Pasadena, Texas, United States when local resident Joe Horn shot and killed two men burgling his neighbor's home. Publicized recordings of Horn's exchange with emergency dispatch indicate that he intended to shoot and/or kill the burglars upon confrontation and was asked repeatedly not to interfere with the burglary because the police would soon be on hand. The shootings have resulted in debate regarding self-defense, Castle Doctrine laws, and Texas laws relating to use of (deadly) force to prevent or stop property crimes. The illegal alien status of the burglars has been highlighted because of the U.S. border controversy. On June 30, 2008, Joe Horn was cleared by a grand jury in the Pasadena shootings.

    Joe Horn, 61, spotted two burglars breaking into his next-door neighbor's home in Pasadena, Texas. He called 911 to call police to the scene. While on the phone with emergency dispatch, Horn stated that he had the right to use deadly force to defend property, referring to a law (Texas Penal Code § 9.41., § 9.42., and § 9.43.) which justified the use of deadly force to protect property. He stated that he was going to go outside and confront the burglars and shoot. As the burglars were exiting his neighbor's home, and reportedly approaching Horn's home, Horn exited his home with his shotgun, while the 911 operator tried to dissuade him from that action. On the 911 tape, he is heard confronting the suspects, saying, "Move, and you're dead", immediately followed by the sound of a shotgun blast, followed by two more. Following the shootings Mr. Horn told the 911 operator, "They came in the front yard with me, man, I had no choice!"

    Police initially identified the dead men in Horn's yard as 38-year-old Miguel Antonio DeJesus and Diego Ortiz, 30, both of Houston of Afro Latino descent.

    . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

    The incident touched off protests, led by Quanell X, that were met by counter-protests from Horn's supporters.

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