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    How Would You Redraw the Map of Europe for the Benefit of the Germanic Peoples?

    The political map of Europe has changed considerably over the last 100 years or so because of the creation of new nation-states in central and eastern Europe.

    What changes in borders and alignments would Skadi members like to see both to ensure the future security of the Germanic peoples and to resolve past injustices?

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    I know this is an old thread, but I was bored the other day and drew a map of a Europe which I think is arranged a little better than what we have currently. It's not terribly serious or well thought through, and includes all of the European nations not just the Germanic ones but I'll give a brief explantion of the changes I've made anyway.

    In alphabetical order, the countries I've changed:


    The Baltic States

    Have all been expanded eastward, Estonia and Latvia into Russia, Lithuania into Belarus, enabling them to claim lands they historically lived in and in some cases their relatives still do. I have a real fondness for Baltic people even though they are not Germanic, there's a reason why East Germany and the Baltic states were the wealthiest parts of the old Eastern Bloc!

    Basque Country

    Basques becoming independent of Spain and France

    Belarus
    Belarus given part of Russia to compensate for losing land to Germany and Lithuania.

    Brittany

    Brittany independent of France

    Finland

    Finland takes back its historical land in Karelia and reunites with the Finnic people living there, and takes the Kola penisula for good measure. Possibly too much time has passed for Finland and Estonia to reunite, but if they share a land border who knows what could happen.

    France

    Gets Wallonia without the German speaking area and French Switzerland.

    Germany

    Germany, including all territory lost in the war (Alsace-Lorraine, Sudetenland, East Prussia, Austria, Luxembourg, Memel, etc and the addition of other German lands (German and Romansch speaking Switzerland, Liechtenstein, South Tyrol). In addition, a small part of eastern Italy and western Slovenia including the city of Trieste has been taken to give Germany a mediterrean port. A large part of Poland, and parts of Belarus and the Ukraine have been added to Germany. Two exclaves have been created in eastern territory: the Crimea and the Volga German area. The Russian city of St. Petersburg has become a free state, somewhat like Danzig, although under ultimate German authority. In addition, the Netherlands and Flanders including French Flanders plus the German speaking part of Germany are included.

    Greece

    Macedonia is a made up ethnicity, in reality they are Bulgarians. The southern part of Macedonia is given to Greece, the rest to Bulgaria. The southern part of Albania with a majority Greek population is given to Greece. Cyprus becomes Greek again. Finally Thrace and the furthest western most part of Anatolia becomes Greek again, finally kicking Turkey off the European continent.

    Hungary

    Given part of Slovakia and Transylvania

    Italy

    Italy, including Corsica and Italian speaking Switzerland. The Corsican language is an Italian one and there's no real reason why it should be part of France.

    Romania

    Moldova is another made up country, so Romania gets that and the Trans-dniester weird soviet republic too.

    Serbia

    Serbia with the addition of Montenegro and Kosovo.

    Slovakia

    with the addition of sub-Carpathia.


    Spain


    Spain and Portugal, are one people, speaking two language which have diverged, in much the same way as Germany and the Netherlands.


    Sweden


    Åland islands given to Sweden.

    U. K.

    I wasn't sure what to do here; I hate the current situation in Ireland, with the Irish people split between two countries and sectarian hatred and bigotry divides them in the north. So to me there seems to be two options: a) fully independent Ireland or b) Ireland reincorporated... If option a) was chosen, there would then be the question "Why not an independent Scotland, Wales?". I think a completely divided Britain would be a shame as all of the nations have contributed greatly to the greatness of Britain, and I doubt that a divided Britain could ever be great again. Unfortunately, I think that option b) is unlikely to happen in this day and age. The Irish were justified in their rebellion and are rightly proud of achieving independence and would be unlikely to seek union again. However, if it were to occur, I would suggest a loose federation of nations, each making most of their own law with the exception of foreign affairs.

    Ukraine

    Ukraine gets Russia out to the Caspian sea in exchange for losses in the west.
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    What's the point. Draw our boarders larger so we have more room to have a small population birth rate? That way we have lots of room to die out in.

    I think you guys are thinking too far ahead. First we need ways to increase our birth rate.

    Then again why take over more land anyways. I don't see the point. In economics war stunts economic growth- meaning it will be harmful in the long run.

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    I drew the map more as an ideal situation, rather than something that we should work towards at the moment. Once society is fixed, then I think it is necessary to turn attention to the issue of land, as I don't believe a people can truly thrive without land. However, there are a lot of things which should be fixed before it comes to that.

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    I can´t speak for the other Germanic countries, but my perfect German country would look pretty much like this:



    (Germany united with Austria, South Tyrol, Elsaß-Lothringen, Sudentenland, West-, Ostpreußen, Silesia & Pommern, Eupen & St.Vith)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thusnelda View Post
    I can´t speak for the other Germanic countries, but my perfect German country would look pretty much like this:



    (Germany united with Austria, South Tyrol, Elsaß-Lothringen, Sudentenland, West-, Ostpreußen, Silesia & Pommern, Eupen & St.Vith)
    But it has borders! You must certainly mean the province Deutschland in Germania Major.

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    I don't like how some of the Slavic countries are encroaching on ours. Look at this map, especially at the Czech republic. See how it's being stabbed like a dagger into Germany's eastern border.



    The Slavic sword in Jewish hands defeating the German spirit after WWII? It's gotta bve symbolic somehow. There will never be peace with such a dolorous display on the map! There needs to be justice. The land taken from us and given to the Western Slavs needs to be returned to us!

    ps: please ignore the title on the map I posted.

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    Sums it up...
    Ein Kampf, Ein Sieg! Fur Prussia!

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    The West is lost. Time to turn our attention elsewhere...

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