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    The Difference Between Nationalsozialismus and Nationaler Sozialismus

    In another thread it was pointed out that the English language term National Socialism actually covers two German language terms, Nationalsozialismus and Nationaler Sozialismus.

    Is there an absolute clear cut distinction between the meaning of these two German language terms or is there a degree of overlap, and what is the relative importance of each to Germans/Germanic people in the present day and age?

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    This post of mine from last August could perhaps be of interest to you here, where I try to establish the difference between Nationalsozialismus and Nationaler Sozialismus at least in what the distinction means for me and to some extent how it could be practiced in theory. It should answer some of your questions, at least as seen from my perspective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigurd View Post
    This post of mine from last August could perhaps be of interest to you here, where I try to establish the difference between Nationalsozialismus and Nationaler Sozialismus at least in what the distinction means for me and to some extent how it could be practiced in theory. It should answer some of your questions, at least as seen from my perspective.
    Yes, thank you Sigurd. It was actually your post that I was referring to! I do indeed understand what you say, and no disrespect, but I am just trying to get another "take" on the matter.

    Would anyone else like to comment?

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    I would've said both mean the same thing but after reading Sigurd's post I'm not so sure about that anymore.
    It's still very similar but it could well be that Nationaler Sozialismus works without centralized politics while Nationalsozialismus does not.
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    "Das Wort 'Nationalsozialismus' stellt als Hauptwort eine neue Synthese dar, die die Untrennbarkeit zweier Begriffe betont, während die Bezeichnung 'nationaler Sozialismus' in Wirklichkeit nationaler Marxismus bedeutet oder bedeuten könnte.“ (Alfred Rosenberg)

    [The purpose of the word "Nationalsozialismus" as a noun, is to stress the inseparability of these two terms, while the term "nationaler Sozialismus" actually means national Marxism, or could mean that." (Alfred Rosenberg)]
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