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    Christian Rock/Metal/Alternative

    What's your view on these genres? Have you ever listened to it?

    Christian rock is a form of rock music that features lyrics focusing on matters of Christian faith, often with an emphasis on Jesus, typically performed by self-proclaimed Christian individuals. The extent to which their lyrics are explicitly Christian varies between bands. Many bands who perform Christian rock have ties to the contemporary Christian music labels, media outlets, and festivals, while other bands are independent.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_rock

    Christian alternative rock is a form of alternative rock music that is lyrically grounded in a Christian worldview. Some critics have suggested that unlike CCM and older Christian rock, Christian alternative rock generally emphasizes musical style over lyrical content as a defining genre characteristic, though the degree to which the faith appears in the music varies from artist to artist.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christ...ternative_rock

    Christian metal is heavy metal music with a Christian message. Christian metal is typically performed by professed Christians sometimes principally for Christians who listen to heavy metal music and many times produced and distributed through various Christian networks. Christian metal is regarded more of a concept rather than a genre since it has no specific musical characteristics.

    Christian metal bands exist in all the subgenres of heavy metal music, and the only common link between most Christian metal bands are the lyrics. The Christian themes are often melded with the subjects of the genre the band is rooted in, regularly providing a Christian take on the subject matter. It has been argued that the marginal yet transnational Christian metal subculture provides its core members an alternative religious expression and Christian identity, and that the music serves the purpose of offering a positive alternative or counterbalance to secular metal music which is known for its generally dark message.

    Christian metal emerged in the late 1970s as a means of evangelization to the wider heavy metal music scene, and was pioneered by the American Resurrection Band and Swedish Jerusalem. Los Angeles' Stryper achieved wide success in the 1980s, otherwise the genre was mostly ignored by the mainstream. The term ”Christian metal” itself was born in 1984. The movement was, and to a lesser extent still is known as "white metal". California's Tourniquet and Australia's Mortification led the movement in the 1990s. The metalcore groups Underoath, Demon Hunter, As I Lay Dying, and Norma Jean, dubbed by Revolver Magazine as "the holy alliance," brought some mainstream attention to the movement in the 2000s, achieving ranks in the Billboard 200.

    Christian metal is not a solitary style of music, but rather comprises almost every subgenre of heavy metal music. The musicians within Christian metal bands typically base their lyrics on Judeo-Christian traditions. The lyrical approach of Christian metal bands is somewhat varied, as some emphasize the positive aspects of faith matters while others iterate the teachings of Christ. Some bands keep their message hidden in metaphors. Only a minority take an aggressive attitude towards those who speak against Christianity, such as Vengeance Rising. References to eschatology and apocalyptic themes, particularly the ongoing spiritual warfare between good and evil as well as the Last Judgment and fall from grace are typical.

    The lyrical style varies depending on culture, denomination, and country. For example, in Northern Europe the bands usually prefer a personal lyrical approach, which is seldom meant to "convert" in an aggressive manner. Christian bands almost never deny their conviction, but typically avoid preaching since they want their music to be entertaining and draw as many followers as possible while still containing their message. Some Christian metal bands do not declare their conviction at all and only concentrate on the entertainment aspect of music.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_metal

    Here a list of Christian metal bands:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...an_metal_bands

    Christian rock bands:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ian_rock_bands

    I'm also intrigued what Christians themselves think about this form of expression. Is it inappropriate versus is it a way to celebrate Christian identity? Is it too modern? Is it sinful?

    This picture below is a little bit too eccentric in my view.


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    There is a Christian Metal genre called "Unblack Metal", their sound and imagery is exactly the same as "Black Metal" the only difference their lyrics are pro-Christian. I like their music as much as I like Black Metal, even though I think it is sort of funny how they manage to piss off the BM people They are actually quite brave in that sense, they dare to give such a big insult toward BM (who in return give them repeated death threats).

    Some Unblack Metal if you haven't heard before

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbwlnwzgkBo

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    Metal from day one was anti-christian and anti-modern, as Ozzy will explain everyone with pleasure.

    It is typical for judeo-christians though that they try to infiltrate movements that are explicitly not meant for them, in fact even are dedicated against them. But this has never stopped them, they are the cancer from within. Devide and conquer, the only tactic they really own. Makes me sick.
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    "Christian Metal" . Must be a joke, and not a particularly good one, it's such an akward combination of gentle and hard, it's almost a contradictio in adiecto.

    If I had a "Christian Metal" band, I would probably call it: "Buttersteel" or "The Melting Pipes".

    Seriously: I am not well acquainted with the Metal genre, but even my very limited knowledge enables me to say: Metal cannot be Christian, its spirit being genuinely heathen. But please note that most people who call themselves "Christian" have nothing to do with the teachings of Jesus Christ, they are heathen too.

    "Christian Metal" is a term like "Social Democrat" or "Moderate Muslim".

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    Oh dear, Christian Metal?!

    I think I'll stick with Cliff Richard

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siebenbürgerin View Post
    What's your view on this genre? Have you ever listened to it?
    There are many, many impressive metal musicians who are Christian or are rooted in Christian culture, but as individuals. Problem is, to start a band specifically to preach any message, whether racial or religious, becomes a joke, it is not the way to create serious and meaningful art. The same applies to openly anti-religious music. No matter if its pro- or anti, it's still preaching to the listener. Serious art does not preach messages to it's audience.
    "Att motverka antigermanismen genom att värna germanska folk, traditioner och ideal handlar inte bara om grundläggande mänskliga rättigheter. Det handlar i slutändan om att rädda mänskligheten."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schoenenbourg View Post
    Serious art does not preach messages to it's audience.
    Maybe not consciously, but subconsciously very much so, always.

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    I'm still undecided.

    One one hand one could argue it's the Christians' every right to convey their message via Metal, esp. Black or Folk Metal much like I believe that Nationalists should use all musical means available to them, including Hip Hop or Dance, to reach out to the German youth.

    On the other hand, considering especially Black Metal, and to some extent *ahem* Pagan Metal weren't exactly created to be pro-Christian, and it's a sign of the commercialisation of the genre that it now extends to people conveying a message explicitly not meant by the fathers of the genre.

    On a "third hand", there are many metalheads who are still Christians, this is especially so f.ex. in Greece, but I also know a few in Germany. It would be "sub-culture" mindset to say what they're allowed to do and believe if they wished to be "part of the scene".
    -In kalte Schatten versunken... /Germaniens Volk erstarrt / Gefroren von Lügen / In denen die Welt verharrt-
    -Die alte Seele trauernd und verlassen / Verblassend in einer erklärbaren Welt / Schwebend in einem Dunst der Wehmut / Ein Schrei der nur unmerklich gellt-
    -Auch ich verspüre Demut / Vor dem alten Geiste der Ahnen / Wird es mir vergönnt sein / Gen Walhalla aufzufahren?-

    (Heimdalls Wacht, In kalte Schatten versunken, stanzas 4-6)

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    That all being said, I must admit that from a musical aspect, there are some projects which I find mildly musically interesting (though I would probably never buy an album):

    Holy Blood (Ukraine):
    Holy Blood - The Patriot
    Holy Blood - The Spring


    Immortal Souls (Finland):
    Immortal Souls - Dark Night under the Northern Sky


    Antestor (Norway):
    Antestor - Battlefield


    Valheron (Brazil):
    Valheron - ...When You Born Again...


    Sorrowstorm (???? - not on MA!)
    Sorrowstorm - Chanting the Last Passages


    HordE (Australia) [plays "Holy Unblack Metal" ]
    HordE - Invert the Inverted Cross (lol!)


    Notice that many "Unblack Metal" etc. bands come from non-Germanic countries though. Horde was a parody band so they say, and Antestor are to blame for bringing Christianity into the "darker parts" of Metal. Much of the rest is from non-Germanic countries.

    Considering "the Christians" oft tend to have really pretty lasses amongst them --- it'd sort of be worth to consider joining the "Christian Metal Fellowship", don't you think?
    -In kalte Schatten versunken... /Germaniens Volk erstarrt / Gefroren von Lügen / In denen die Welt verharrt-
    -Die alte Seele trauernd und verlassen / Verblassend in einer erklärbaren Welt / Schwebend in einem Dunst der Wehmut / Ein Schrei der nur unmerklich gellt-
    -Auch ich verspüre Demut / Vor dem alten Geiste der Ahnen / Wird es mir vergönnt sein / Gen Walhalla aufzufahren?-

    (Heimdalls Wacht, In kalte Schatten versunken, stanzas 4-6)

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    Everyone forgot the band Helloween.

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