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    Quote Originally Posted by Petervalhalla View Post
    You mention the "inclusion" of non-whites, but what happens if they become a MAJORITY in the BNP?
    That's the beauty of it all. There isn't a hope in hell of "non-whites" becoming the majority in the BNP. The BNP have allowed Jews, Hindus and others become members in the past, but the core of the party has stayed "white".

    The time the BNP becomes majority "non-white" is the day we need never fight anymore...the war has been lost.

    Quote Originally Posted by Godwinson View Post
    ... because the BNP could well have a cancer eating away within them now!
    Could be. We shall just have to wait and see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petervalhalla View Post
    I have never had any interest in the BNP as I always thought it was a complete waste of time. Now I'm sure of it.
    ... You'd have to elaborate on this.

    Right now all I can see the BNP is putting less pressure over principle. And by the way, they missed a chance to confront some pretty unlawful "legislation" that infringes on freedom of association.
    "And God proclaims as a first principle to the rulers, and above all else, that there is nothing which they should so anxiously guard, or of which they are to be such good guardians, as of the purity of the race. They should observe what elements mingle in their offspring;..." Plato Politeia

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    Unless mainstream Parties adopt robust anti immigration policies in the near future, the BNP IS our only hope. If you believe otherwise then you need to get a reality check, take a look at London or Birmingham. Time is not on our side and no other far right party in the UK has a hope in hell of governing. In 20 years time it will already be too late to change things democratically, unless you are talking about a forced take-over.

    As you'll see from my political ideology, I don't for one minute consider the BNP perfect, far from it, but we have to unite and compromise. Or fail.

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    The BNP is increasingly a centre-right party, and has been moving left for some time. I feel they're now attempting to 'fill the shoes' of the Conservatives, as the Conservatives themselves also move left. In the unlikely scenario that the BNP is ever voted to power, their own political compromises will make them impotent to act on anything anyway. Seriously, how can a party that concedes to mainstream legal regulation/censorship/control ever act against the mainstream? They've submitted to it; they can't backtrack. They can't get voted in and shout "SURPRISE!!" It just won't happen. Their compromises will render/have already rendered the party utterly ineffectual. And as members join the party under their new terms and image, the more the membership will believe in those terms and the BNP's new goals (whatever they may be now; I don't even know).

    With the change in membership will come changes in policy. Concerns about ethnicity will become concerns about culture. Concerns about immigration will become concerns about integration. The media will still despise them, so it will be all for naught, but real ethnic nationalists will also grow to despise them. An unwise move.

    As I say, they'll never be voted in, so they could at least show some backbone, have some dignity, and take a stand against a corrupt, oppressive pseudo-democratic system, and stand by what they believe is right.

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    Democracy is a sham. Votes are controlled by public opinion, political contributions etc. This is why even if you have the majority of the population on your side your political will shall not be done if the ruling elite are against it. Thus we need the creation of an Aryan elite who manipulate media and education like the Jews do. Who can amass huge fortunes like Jews do and direct it at our aims. Who can worm their way into politics and such and make a real change.

    The masses of racial Aryans are like the ocean- very powerful but undirected force. Once there is an elite to direct that energy into more useful means then it can be more effective. But before you can get into politics you need successful businesses and such. And then you probably need your hands in the media and so on.


    It's like a labor union. All the fed up racial whites are like fed up workers. But even if the majority of the plant is fed up they can do nothing because they aren't organized. Once they have a leader who can direct them in some capacity and speak on their behalf at the table with the big whigs then more will get done.

    Votes, rallies, violence they all may have their place. But the lifeblood of modern society is money and that is the key of what we should be amassing if we want our goals to be met. Our wealthy Aryan elite have sold us out. The wealthy members of other races either could care less about us or outright hate us. The last time we had an Aryan elite that did anything for their folk were the Nazis.
    “success and survival are above all the rule of life. As such it is the highest command of moral law” –Lord Livwell (me)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Méldmir View Post
    So what was the point of freezing the membership and going to court, they've lost alot of money now I guess.
    Labour certainly doesn't want the BNP to be able to fight effectively in the upcoming election does it. The BNP have 1000's of people waiting to join them but can't yet, when the membership ban finishes (in march I think) they'll be flooded with memberships as they've already recorded their details; so its just a matter of calling them back.

    I think this is a positive step anyway as other Euro-Nationalist parties haven't needed native-only memberships to suceed i.e. FPO, FN, LN, SD, PVV heck even the NDP doesn't have one.
    I'm still opposed to the principal of having to accept them even if they don't want to, but its just legal reality.

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    This should have been done long ago, if only for political reasons. I'm amazed they ever had such a policy. It shows the political immaturity of the BNP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe McCarthy View Post
    This should have been done long ago, if only for political reasons. I'm amazed they ever had such a policy. It shows the political immaturity of the BNP.
    Please read the posts by both Hamar Fox and rainman. They say more or less everything that needs to be said and in a far better way than I ever could. The "political immaturity" of the BNP is shown by the fact that they cannot see (or perhaps see only too well!) that regardless of what they do, they will NEVER be effectual. The established institutions simply have too much to lose, and if it ever did appear that the BNP were making significant advances, they would just modify their policies accordingly (at least outwardly), and out-BNP the BNP, which would be child's play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Florian Geyer View Post
    Unless mainstream Parties adopt robust anti immigration policies in the near future, the BNP IS our only hope.
    ... The problem has got far more facets then "immigration". And people that just try to "slow down immigration" are just wasting their and our time (and resources).

    Quote Originally Posted by Florian Geyer View Post
    If you believe otherwise then you need to get a reality check, take a look at London or Birmingham. Time is not on our side and no other far right party in the UK has a hope in hell of governing. In 20 years time it will already be too late to change things democratically, unless you are talking about a forced take-over.
    Excuse me, but without changing hegemony first, nothing else will change. Neither will the other parties change their stance on immigration, nor will the BNP (or any other party like that) ever stand stand a chance to gain substantially more then 10% nationally.

    Quote Originally Posted by Florian Geyer View Post
    As you'll see from my political ideology, I don't for one minute consider the BNP perfect, far from it, but we have to unite and compromise. Or fail.
    ... Compromise until one ends up like the Volksunie or, oh yes, like the National Party did already or how it can be assumed the Vryheidsfront does do in South Africa.

    Honestly, from what I've seen in right wing politics in South Africa and from what I know about right wing politics in Europe, it was rather damaging the cause then it was helping. Really, to believe that one just has to start a party, draw all people in it the resent immigrants and muslims, win an election and then everything will change to the better, is kind of foolish. Society is far more complex then that. The 5% intellectual multiplicators that drive the multicultural, left-wing agenda are culturally far more powerful, then the 10% unemployed dockworkers and discruntled pensioners that vote BNP can ever dream of. You'll need to attack the left in their vestiges, ridicule their ideas and their "heros". As for the politicians expose their treachery and corruption. The present financial situation should make this actually quite easy. A party that just tries to gain some concessions from the system is actually worthless. It rather contributes to a perception of weakness in the general public. Rather strike the Cons + Lefties were it's painful for them. The Equality law might just be an oportunity for this and you may even find some libertarian Allies for this. A ban of the BNP would actually be a great victory, since it exposes the totalitarian nature of the system.
    "And God proclaims as a first principle to the rulers, and above all else, that there is nothing which they should so anxiously guard, or of which they are to be such good guardians, as of the purity of the race. They should observe what elements mingle in their offspring;..." Plato Politeia

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    I've felt for some years now that elections in this country, and most probably in other "democracies" too, are RIGGED!!

    I base this on the number of people I know who vote BNP and the local election results, which simply do not tally. In my former street I personally knew of 8 BNP voters and yet it was claimed they only totalled about 170 votes despite there being another 100 such streets. This has happened in several areas I've lived, so do I keep finding places where the BNP is over-popular or is there some fiddling going on?

    In my opinion, there's no way they're counting all the BNP votes!

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