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    Post Re: The meaning of "Aryan" and how it applies to National Socialism

    Quote Originally Posted by prussian25_au
    In this sense it is undeniably true into such occurances being present on websites selling material of two different schools of thought and a youngster therefore linking the two philosophies/ideologies and concludes that the two are one and the same.

    I think it's quite easy for any Semi-Intelligent youngster(if what you mean is teen) to know the difference between the KKK "White Power" Ideaology and NS Idealogy. I knew the distinction quite early as did some of my peers. As the distinction between the two are quite easy to draw White Power incoporating everyone of European backround into its movement and NS having a Nordic Germanocentric focus.

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    Post Re: The meaning of "Aryan" and how it applies to National Socialism

    Quote Originally Posted by Northern_Paladin
    As the distinction between the two are quite easy to draw White Power incoporating everyone of European backround into its movement and NS having a Nordic Germanocentric focus.
    I would not consider National Socialism in it's original form "Nordic Germanocentric" by any stretch of the imagination, rather it constitutes more so an element of "Pan-Teutonism" if it could be measured by policy, the conclusion that it is "Nordic Germanocentric" really does not follow through when the Reich itself sought to unify the alpinic austrians to the south and strengthen the bonds between volkers abroad as a good example would be the Transylvanian ethnic saxons & swabians.
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    Post Re: The meaning of "Aryan" and how it applies to National Socialism

    Quote Originally Posted by Northern_Paladin
    I think it's quite easy for any Semi-Intelligent youngster(if what you mean is teen) to know the difference between the KKK "White Power" Ideaology and NS Idealogy. I knew the distinction quite early as did some of my peers.
    I think in this case you could be an exception to the cause, though you could be right, I am just judging through my own experience on this and on the same note as would yourself.

    I am glad to hear that some bright minded youth can make intelligent comparisions between the two ideological view points, though as some do a lot more don't which is rather unfortunate.
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    Post Re: The meaning of "Aryan" and how it applies to National Socialism

    Quote Originally Posted by Northern_Paladin
    As the distinction between the two are quite easy to draw White Power incoporating everyone of European backround into its movement and NS having a Nordic Germanocentric focus.
    The NSDAP was about a "Nordic Germanocentric focus," but National Socialism
    is about a Nationalist Folkish focus. What I'm saying is you don't have to be German or even White to be a National Socialist.

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    I'm glad I don't engage in any kind of rationalizing of "British Israelism" anymore. I don't care for the association, because I don't feel it necessary to take credit for another person's culture--which the Nazis were doing with Aryanism. Nevertheless, it is true that not all of Jewishness is of Semitic origin, so it's funny to be called antisemitic when it's possible to oppose Aryan influences in Judaism, from the Babylonian Exilarchs who synthesized the Hebrew religion with that of the Persians in addition to other Semitic beliefs among Assyrians and Babylonians. Messianic Judaism is not far of from that too. Christianity rooted out Moses and was helpful for Greeks to assimilate MENA peoples, especially after Rome defeated and annexed Carthage. Modern secular Jews think more highly of Aryan Buddhism than anything Hebrew.

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    Aryan doesn't mean anything more than an Iranian tribe of race-mixing losers who mixed themselves out of existence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigebrond View Post
    Aryan doesn't mean anything more than an Iranian tribe of race-mixing losers who mixed themselves out of existence.
    This is incorrect.

    Sanskrit-Arya, the exalted, or noble, master, lord, an Aryan, one of the `exalted` ruling race.
    Arya-man, a companion[Aryan].

    Old Persian-Ariya. See above definition!

    Iranian-Airya-a racial title used by Darius on his tomb. Has the same general sense as in the Sanskrit.

    Hittite-Ara, member of one`s own group, peer, friend.

    Lycian[Anatolian language from South-West Anatolia]-Arus, citizens.

    Greek-Areion, better, stronger, braver, usually derived from Ares, war, but probably cognate with Airo, exalt. Ar-istos, best. Heros, a hero, a freeman. Arios or Herios a title of the Medes and Persians. Aeria or Herie, a Greek name for Egypt. Harma-chariot.

    Gothic-Harri, lord or king. Her, a noble man. Her-sir, a chief, a lord.

    Norwegian-Herre, lord, master, gentleman.

    German-Herr, lord, master, gentleman.

    Dutch-heer, lord, master, gentleman.

    Cornish and Celtic-Arhu, command.

    Old English-Hearra, lord, master. Eorl, Erl-cognate with Jarl, a chief, leader, hero, man of valour.

    Modern English-Aryan, as a racial ruling title. Aristo-cracy, a government of the `best or strongest` men, the nobility, from the Greek: Aristo-crat, Aristo-cratic.

    Old and Modern Irish-aire, freeman. Erin, Eire, Ireland-same sense as Aryavarta-land of the Aryans.

    In the following languages the prefix ar has the connotation of to plough or till in certain words:

    Latin-arare
    Greek-aroun
    Slavic-orati
    Welsh-arad
    Old English-erien
    Gothic-arjan.

    Closely related to this sense of the term the following langauges extend the use of the prefix to terms for the earth:

    Modern English-earth
    German-Erde
    Dutch-aarde
    Latin-arvum
    Greek-era

    The German word Ehre closely related to the Dutch eer which means honour also is a derivative of Aryan and generally conveys the notion of honourable conduct which is regarded as atypical of the Arya.


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