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    Post Re: The meaning of "Aryan" and how it applies to National Socialism

    Quote Originally Posted by Jaði
    All these people calling themselves "Aryan" yet they do not abid the true ways that an Aryan is to follow and show honor to!
    Fine, but we need you to tell us what the "true ways" are so that we can know where all the other WN groups are going wrong!
    This is a genuine question and will help us all progress.
    Why are there beings at all, & why not rather nothing?
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    Post Re: The meaning of "Aryan" and how it applies to National Socialism

    Quote Originally Posted by Moody Lawless
    Fine, but we need you to tell us what the "true ways" are so that we can know where all the other WN groups are going wrong!
    This is a genuine question and will help us all progress.
    I cannot tell corrupted people the truth they are lost in the darkness they will never be free in this life and most likely others because they are weak to begin with that is why they are in total darkness...only the remainder of the strong will rise!!!
    "For the gate is narrow and the way leads to life, and those whom find it are few"

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    Post Re: The meaning of "Aryan" and how it applies to National Socialism

    Quote Originally Posted by Philosopher
    Cheap cop-out.

    Adolph Hitler wrote on many occasions that in every right-thinking people, there arise in every generation a few people who are especially qualified by virtue of their breeding, by dint of their studies and diligent application, to know the truth and to convey the truth both in the abstract and in terms of practical application. It is the role of the Party to find those people, to complete their training, and to guide those specially-fit standard-bearers in leading the masses: those who are as incapable of grasping the truth as ding an sich as a pig is of performing trigonometric calculations but who are capable of being led.

    This is National Socialist truth. It is termed the Fuhrer Principle. You are not fir to call yourself National Socialist if you do not understand this truth and if you do not know your role, whether as leader or follower.
    How dare to say I am not a National Socialist, and that I don't know my role! If you were hounestly 'true' you would have felt my energy! And what you wrote above what are you trying to say in relations with what I said?! Are you saying that I copied what mine Führer said or something? Because I would not lie! For one thing lieing creates for chaos and corruption, and it is a very Zionist thing to do, and it is one of the very important morals that an Aryan is not to do, always be truthful - do not lie even if it is to save yourself from something, then you would be selfish. But truth Aryans will not lie anyways...
    "For the gate is narrow and the way leads to life, and those whom find it are few"

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    Post Re: The meaning of "Aryan" and how it applies to National Socialism

    We get one pointer here for what is Aryan in N-S;
    The committment to Truth.

    To speak the Truth, and to do the Truthful thing at all times.

    This according to Jadhi is a typical Aryan/ N-S trait.

    So we must infer then, that some [or all, if you take Jadhi's line] WN groups are not Truthful, therefore they are 'bastardised'.

    Does this ring 'true' to you?

    Surely there must be more to it than that.

    After all, The Third Reich did not mind deceiving her enemies at times, and so definitely used untruth on occasions!
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    Post Re: The meaning of "Aryan" and how it applies to National Socialism

    Quote Originally Posted by Moody Lawless
    We get one pointer here for what is Aryan in N-S;
    The committment to Truth.

    To speak the Truth, and to do the Truthful thing at all times.

    This according to Jadhi is a typical Aryan/ N-S trait.

    So we must infer then, that some [or all, if you take Jadhi's line] WN groups are not Truthful, therefore they are 'bastardised'.

    Does this ring 'true' to you?

    Surely there must be more to it than that.

    After all, The Third Reich did not mind deceiving her enemies at times, and so definitely used untruth on occasions!
    Jadhi didn't say WN groups were not truthful, she said they were not true National Socialism.

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    Post Re: The meaning of "Aryan" and how it applies to National Socialism

    Quote Originally Posted by The Dagda
    Jadhi didn't say WN groups were not truthful, she said they were not true National Socialism.
    We are trying to get at what is "true" N-S in this thread.

    Those who speak of 'True N-S' must have an idea of what constitutes this truth, and should be able to express it.

    We have so far agreed that the Aryan aspect is relevant to N-S; indeed, some would say that this is ESSENTIAL to N-S.
    But then this leads many to ask what Aryan actually IS.

    Jadhi makes it a moral concept, i.e., the idea that we must always tell the Truth.

    So N-S will be marked out by its consistent 'Truthfulness' - that is 'true' N-S.

    But as I have implied, historical N-S fell short of this at times for pragamatic reasons.

    So I ask, must Aryans ALWAYS tell the truth, no matter what?
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    Post Re: The meaning of "Aryan" and how it applies to National Socialism

    Quote Originally Posted by Moody Lawless
    We are trying to get at what is "true" N-S in this thread.

    Those who speak of 'True N-S' must have an idea of what constitutes this truth, and should be able to express it.

    We have so far agreed that the Aryan aspect is relevant to N-S; indeed, some would say that this is ESSENTIAL to N-S.
    But then this leads many to ask what Aryan actually IS.

    Jadhi makes it a moral concept, i.e., the idea that we must always tell the Truth.

    So N-S will be marked out by its consistent 'Truthfulness' - that is 'true' N-S.

    But as I have implied, historical N-S fell short of this at times for pragamatic reasons.

    So I ask, must Aryans ALWAYS tell the truth, no matter what?
    We have to distinguish between Adolf Hitler the politician and Adolf Hitler the
    philosopher.
    The former died in 1945, while the latter is eternal.
    When you talk about Aryan you are talking only about Adolf Hitler the politician.The Aryan that Hitler refers to is a German version of Sorels "Myth" concept, every nation and people have a "Myth".
    True National Socialism refers to Adolf Hitler the philosopher and can be applied to any nation.

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    Post Re: The meaning of "Aryan" and how it applies to National Socialism

    Quote Originally Posted by The Dagda
    We have to distinguish between Adolf Hitler the politician and Adolf Hitler the
    philosopher.
    The former died in 1945, while the latter is eternal.
    When you talk about Aryan you are talking only about Adolf Hitler the politician.The Aryan that Hitler refers to is a German version of Sorels "Myth" concept, every nation and people have a "Myth".
    True National Socialism refers to Adolf Hitler the philosopher and can be applied to any nation.
    I don't think you can separate the philosophy from the politics.
    The philosophy is closest to the Mythical element anyway.
    'Aryanism' extends far beyond politics - it is the mythic element of N-S.
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    Post Re: The meaning of "Aryan" and how it applies to National Socialism

    Quote Originally Posted by Moody Lawless
    I don't think you can separate the philosophy from the politics.
    The philosophy is closest to the Mythical element anyway.
    'Aryanism' extends far beyond politics - it is the mythic element of N-S.
    Aryanism is the mythical element of German NS.
    Different nations have different myths.

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    Post Re: The meaning of "Aryan" and how it applies to National Socialism

    Aryan is spiritual... and not this "non-excistint" spiritual many people take into hand... it is spiritual, it is the blood...
    and if you do not follow your soul, your *blood-memory* you are lost... and most in this world are lost... and I meen most!

    If you do not understand-see the truth, then there for you are not Aryan...
    I am not saying I am Aryan, I come from Aryan, but the next Root-race....

    It might be hard to understand, but if you think about it.... well only some people... they will understand it...
    you cannot un-corrupt, corrupted people... they must help themselves by learning and remembering on there own, but in this care there is no chance for anyone... well the high majority.

    Aryans are of... I will hide the real names and use *truth*
    from this... everyone of *truth* speaks truth, it is not that they have to... it is that they do... it is not a "rule" to follow but in away it would be for somone who is not of *truth*
    *truth* speaks truth and never lies, tho not explaining all of what somone asks etc. is not lying... it is just... not finishing.... so many things we will say but will not finish, just to see how your mind works to it... and to see if you have any clue what we are talking about....

    Our words might seem abit confusing and mixed up... but there is a certain way at looking at them....

    So we might say afew things but when you ask for us to explain we wont... because that is where you need to figure it out on your own... and if you cannot... well we all ready knew you could not... in away we still have hope, that is why we post but, put it this way... if you were to bring somone up the stairs really fast... and they cannot see... they will fall...
    just as if you were explaing many things to somone who is blind to them....
    so you must say, the stairs are here, you are blind.... can you use your sences to guide yourself up the stair-case?
    Last edited by Moody; Monday, July 12th, 2004 at 03:41 PM. Reason: removed personal attack

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