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    Post Re: The meaning of "Aryan" and how it applies to National Socialism

    Quote Originally Posted by Moody Lawless
    Do you not allow for the fact that all things ... EVOLVE?

    Is is it not possible that N-S would look very different in the year 2004 compared to the year 1934?

    Are you saying that 'evolution' is nothing but 'bastardisation'?

    Wasn't N-S itself a SYNTHESIS?

    Do you regard synthesisation ans being tantamount to bastardisation?
    My view on this is that NS should look different now, but the ideology should
    always remain the same. Evolution is not bastardisation, White Nationalism is
    bastardisation when WN utilise NS symbols. I don't believe we should look
    outside Europe for true National Socialism.

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    Post Re: The meaning of "Aryan" and how it applies to National Socialism

    Quote Originally Posted by Moody Lawless
    Do you not allow for the fact that all things ... EVOLVE?

    Is is it not possible that N-S would look very different in the year 2004 compared to the year 1934?

    Are you saying that 'evolution' is nothing but 'bastardisation'?

    Wasn't N-S itself a SYNTHESIS?

    Do you regard synthesisation ans being tantamount to bastardisation?
    I never said EVOLUTION is bastardisation! I said White Nationalism is
    bastardisation! Because there is a very big difference between evolution and corruption...as what White Nationalism is, they have no right to use our symbols ect.. are not truely stand by them....that is not evolution.
    "For the gate is narrow and the way leads to life, and those whom find it are few"

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    Post Re: The meaning of "Aryan" and how it applies to National Socialism

    Quote Originally Posted by The Dagda
    My view on this is that NS should look different now, but the ideology should
    always remain the same. Evolution is not bastardisation, White Nationalism is
    bastardisation when WN utilise NS symbols. I don't believe we should look
    outside Europe for true National Socialism.
    Very nicely said Dagda, atleast someone can see some of it threw the right way.
    "For the gate is narrow and the way leads to life, and those whom find it are few"

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    Post Re: The meaning of "Aryan" and how it applies to National Socialism

    Quote Originally Posted by Moody Lawless
    Do you not allow for the fact that all things ... EVOLVE?

    Is is it not possible that N-S would look very different in the year 2004 compared to the year 1934?

    Are you saying that 'evolution' is nothing but 'bastardisation'?

    Wasn't N-S itself a SYNTHESIS?

    Do you regard synthesisation ans being tantamount to bastardisation?
    I forgot to add, National Socialism does look different in our time 2004 because Aryans evolve, not like all these corrupted slaves of Zion thinking that they are doing a right thing by using our symbols and inverting things, they have no right! I could understand if people would follow exactly how it was back in the Reich, the people that do consisder themselves as National Socialist, because it was left the way it was up here like that so they should follow it as much as it was, but of course you have to still be apart of the Zionist world.
    "For the gate is narrow and the way leads to life, and those whom find it are few"

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    Post Re: The meaning of "Aryan" and how it applies to National Socialism

    I forgot to add, National Socialism does look different in our time 2004 because Aryans evolve
    I don't think it's "Aryans" have evolved much. It's the Surroundings(Geo-Political Environment) that has changed.


    If NS or WN is to succeed it needs to be adpated to the Times.

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    Post Re: The meaning of "Aryan" and how it applies to National Socialism

    Of course - but is adaptation 'bastardisation'?

    Some will say that it is, just as what is 'evolution' for some, is 'bastardisation' for others.

    The fallacy in this point of the discussion is in trying to compare a specific [the NSDAP/ N-S] with a genera ['White Nationalism' /WN].

    When some say that WN is a 'bastardisation' of N-S, what WN group are they referring to?
    Isn't N-S a part of the genera WN?

    In what way is there a 'bastardistion' in particular [un-named] WN groups?

    We hear much mention made of 'symbols', and yet the NSDAP did not invent ANY of its symbols!
    They used symbols which were already in use!

    So I think there is little to be said for the vague charge that WN has 'bastardised' N-S.

    Also, we note a shift within N-S ideology itself during the short period of 1933-1943, particularly on the important issue of Christianity.
    And even then there were at least two distinct movements within N-S [this has been dealt with in the thread on Ernst Rohm and the 'SA Approach'].

    So is there really a single N-S dogma from which none should deviate ... anyway?
    Why are there beings at all, & why not rather nothing?
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    Post Re: The meaning of "Aryan" and how it applies to National Socialism

    Quote Originally Posted by Moody Lawless
    Of course - but is adaptation 'bastardisation'?

    Some will say that it is, just as what is 'evolution' for some, is 'bastardisation' for others.

    The fallacy in this point of the discussion is in trying to compare a specific [the NSDAP/ N-S] with a genera ['White Nationalism' /WN].

    When some say that WN is a 'bastardisation' of N-S, what WN group are they referring to?
    Isn't N-S a part of the genera WN?

    In what way is there a 'bastardistion' in particular [un-named] WN groups?

    We hear much mention made of 'symbols', and yet the NSDAP did not invent ANY of its symbols!
    They used symbols which were already in use!

    So I think there is little to be said for the vague charge that WN has 'bastardised' N-S.

    Also, we note a shift within N-S ideology itself during the short period of 1933-1943, particularly on the important issue of Christianity.
    And even then there were at least two distinct movements within N-S [this has been dealt with in the thread on Ernst Rohm and the 'SA Approach'].

    So is there really a single N-S dogma from which none should deviate ... anyway?
    No, adaption is not 'bastardation'! As I have already stated that WN ect. is not adaption nor evolotion!
    As for myself and my others we refer to all and every "neo" group - WN,skinheads,all of them.
    Also when you stated "that Isn't N-S a part of the genera WN?" you are wrong National Socialism was not and never will be in the genera of WN! The reason why some people see it that way is because they listen to the lies of the darkness...
    For your question "In what way is there a 'bastardistion' in particular [un-named] WN groups?" First off they are already corrupted by mix and matching different morals ect. that are irrelavant to each other. Also all these people calling themselves "Aryan" yet they do not abid the true ways that an Aryan is to follow and show honor to!
    As for the NSDAP yes you are right about that they did not make up our symbols. Because they have been apart of us from our begining, so it would make sense that they would not have made the symbols up, they re-introducd them to our people to show them the light!
    "For the gate is narrow and the way leads to life, and those whom find it are few"

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    Post Re: The meaning of "Aryan" and how it applies to National Socialism

    Quote Originally Posted by Jaði
    I am sorry I do not have any material, all I have is my memories, and my blood...
    For me to even explain the truth it will not be truely explaining, because it isn't a matter of explaining/reading a defintion, you must remember the truth through the memories of your blood and reawaken the path to your astral body to remember the true way of life and National Socialism!
    Cheap cop-out.

    Adolph Hitler wrote on many occasions that in every right-thinking people, there arise in every generation a few people who are especially qualified by virtue of their breeding, by dint of their studies and diligent application, to know the truth and to convey the truth both in the abstract and in terms of practical application. It is the role of the Party to find those people, to complete their training, and to guide those specially-fit standard-bearers in leading the masses: those who are as incapable of grasping the truth as ding an sich as a pig is of performing trigonometric calculations but who are capable of being led.

    This is National Socialist truth. It is termed the Fuhrer Principle. You are not fir to call yourself National Socialist if you do not understand this truth and if you do not know your role, whether as leader or follower.

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    Whoever may have called themselves Aryan in the past, no longer exist as ethnopolitical realities. The point is thus; how do we use the term 'Aryan' in a modern context? As Aryan is derived from an Indo-European root meaning 'noble', the term means exactly that to me: noble or exalted. Aryan is thus taken out of the purely racial (though a noble lineage is, of course, a pro), and into the symbolical, spiritual and cultural.
    To us, White Europeans, the question is no longer 'who is Aryan?' but rather 'how do we become Aryan?'

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    Post Re: The meaning of "Aryan" and how it applies to National Socialism

    Quote Originally Posted by Siegfried Augustus
    Whoever may have called themselves Aryan in the past, no longer exist as ethnopolitical realities. The point is thus; how do we use the term 'Aryan' in a modern context? As Aryan is derived from an Indo-European root meaning 'noble', the term means exactly that to me: noble or exalted. Aryan is thus taken out of the purely racial (though a noble lineage is, of course, a pro), and into the symbolical, spiritual and cultural.
    To us, White Europeans, the question is no longer 'who is Aryan?' but rather 'how do we become Aryan?'
    I do not feel the need to 'compartmentalise'.
    As I see life as a continual process of Becoming, Being, and Passing-Away to New Becoming, then Aryanism fits that process like a glove.

    We must BECOME Aryans, as you say; but then we are Aryans in Being also, whether ascending or declining.

    Aryanism is a Totality.

    It is not limited to the Body.
    It is not limited to the Spirit.
    It is not limited to the Past.
    It is not limited to the Present.
    It is not limited to the Future.

    But it is ALL those things; not one whit added or SUBTRACTED.

    Hitler defined the Aryans as the Culture-Bearing Race - and that is totally existential.
    Why are there beings at all, & why not rather nothing?
    [Leibniz/Heidegger]

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