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    Marvel Comics now promotes incest

    I do not think i have to make a introduction about Marvel comics, most people once in their lives has seen or read a Marvel comic or seen one of the cartoons or movies from them.

    In 2008 marvel brought out the The Ultimates 3 comic miniseries, it is a sequel to The Ultimates and The Ultimates 2.

    I have never read The Ultimates comics (i mostly stopped collection Marvel in the 90's when i discovered better comics then Marvel and DC and was put of by the Clone Wars crap in Spiderman) but from what i know it is a reimagining of the Marvel superhero's to attract new readers into Marvel comics.

    This comic was sold very good (Ultimates 3 #1 ranked first in December 2007's Top 300 comics)

    Now for the part why i placed this article:

    Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver the twin children of Magneto.














    American patriot Captain America is being called closed minded together with a typical 1944 remark for being against incest...

    Really, i have no words for it, will this be the next political correct step ? accepting incest because otherwise you are a Nazi ?

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    Sick.

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    The Scarlet Witch is pretty twisted; especially, in House of M. Her dad is Magneto, so she has a lot of background.

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    In Richard Wagner's The Ring of the Nibelung, twins Siegmund and Sieglinde commit incest at the end of Act 1 of Die Walküre.[9] The offspring of this union is Siegfried, the hero of the next operas in the Ring cycle, Siegfried and Götterdämmerung.

    In Melvin Burgess's novel Bloodtide, which, like "Die Walküre", is based upon the Volsunga Saga, the Volson twins Siggy and Signy share an incestuous sexual encounter which leaves Signy pregnant. However, Siggy is unaware that it is his sister, since she is in the guise of another character, Cherry.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incest_between_twins

    Gross but nothing new I guess.

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    Yes, but these comics are made also for children and these superhero's are seen as role models by them.

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    There also comes with it that in the volsung-saga it is not portrayed as a normal thing. But was part of the plan of Sieglinde to get a son capable of helping Sigmund avenging their father and other brothers, namely Sinfloti. I do not know what Wagner meant whit his adaption.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dietsch View Post
    Yes, but these comics are made also for children and these superhero's are seen as role models by them.
    Unfortunately, the publishers that wish to make a buck, in this day and age, do not seem to care how their product can potentially create a negative image for their younger readers. Parents should keep a close eye on what their children read or watch on television.

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    It's less of a problem of including incest into a storyline - it's an old feature in novels, whether prose or graphic. It is a matter that has intrigued many a writer due to the obvious (and rightful) taboo of it, and has lent many a storyline a distinctive twitch. It has led to many a character's downfall and can thus be a very useful plot technique to work into your story to make it more multi-facetted.

    The greater problem is instead indeed that these graphic novels are generally aimed at read by children who are not yet at an age where they can differentiate between virtues and flaws in protagonists - to them they are the superhero, and everything the superhero does is right. Which is why in times bygone the subject of incest was touched upon only in literature aimed at adults, who were obviously able to understand the much more complex implications.

    I believe this is perhaps part of the general agenda to take childhood away from children: They are to become little adults and are thus confronted with concepts beyond their natural level of understanding: Whether that be sexual education in nursery or treating with the old "incest issue" in a comic. They are simply too young an audience to understand such complex matters, especially when topics are concerned which are impossible to dish "age-appropriately" --- previously this would've included an "Age Rating" (12+, 15+, 18+, 21+, ...) but with making them little adults, these thresholds of what is acceptable to confront children with have degenerate so far that one has to be careful about everything they read, watch or see ---- because the zeitgeist demand it conform with general public brainwash.

    I'm not sure whether Marvel Comics actually wish to promote incest as being normal to children, but they are certainly caught up with the general stealing of childhood which has been progressing further and further ever since approx. the Sixties. As such - whether voluntary (wilful propaganda to influence young children) or involuntary (going with the zeitgeist without lending it much thought) - they become part of the destructive machinery which seeks to undermine and pervert our folk. With the 1944 remark (which would again be unproblematic to an adult audience as they could evaluate it from various angles) it's quote obviously wilful propaganda, which makes it all the worse. Sad, but true.
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    That's moral relativism for you! It's all about what feels good, and now that the feminists and homosexuals have managed to pry open Pandora's box, every other form of sexual deviance will manage to get itself normalized in our society. Who would have thought just a decade ago that Sexting would be so pervasive among kids between the ages of 10 and 15???

    Quote Originally Posted by frippardthree View Post
    Unfortunately, the publishers that wish to make a buck, in this day and age, do not seem to care how their product can potentially create a negative image for their younger readers. Parents should keep a close eye on what their children read or watch on television.
    The problem is, with each passing generation the parents are increasing morally bankrupt. After all, most of the parents of this generation were already having sex by the time they were 16. What moral standing do they have to be opposed to their children having sex at such a young age, or as it is now even younger? Unless they flat-out have a change of faith, I would say none.

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    The negative effects of incest are popularly exaggerated, and prejudice against incest is generally strongest in cultures that celebrate racial mixing. Example: I've heard many Americans sneer at 'inbred' Europeans, and argue for the desirability of having Cherokee, Jewish etc. ancestry. Entire communities, nations, and even preservationism itself, are frequently slandered on the basis of the pseudo-science surrounding the issue.

    Biologically, incest can be as advantageous as disadvantageous. It accelerates evolution by exposing and amplifying genetic flaws and allowing them to be more effectively plucked from the genepool. Few people consider that beneficial genes are also amplified by the same process. Why? Because genetic successes don't make headlines.

    A certain degree of incest is desirable. Second and third cousins make for the best reproductive matches, and such couples have been the norm throughout human history. Brother/sister matches aren't as biologically desirable, but can still work for the reasons stated above, and are aesthetically preferable to mixed-race couples.

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