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    I've seen this before. If anything it only shows the basic 'racist' and anti-Semitic attitudes of the Western Allies. It's not a real revelation to those who don't buy the nonsense that Nazis were fighting anti-racism in the Allied states.

    Having read Patton's war memoirs I can confirm his rather staunch 'racist' views. He regarded blacks as too slow mentally for armored units. But it should be remembered as well that he was unyielding in his drive to kill Germans with as much tenacity and speed as possible.

    ... (followed by gory details of how to best kill Germans) ...
    Joe, all of this is all irrelevant because the article addresses Patton's attitude AFTER the war when he realised that the Germans were not all the inhuman beasts that Jewish propaganda had led him to believe.

    It's a pity that this message is still lost on some of us, even 65 years later

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    Quote Originally Posted by Godwinson View Post
    Joe, all of this is all irrelevant because the article addresses Patton's attitude AFTER the war when he realised that the Germans were not all the inhuman beasts that Jewish propaganda had led him to believe.

    It's a pity that this message is still lost on some of us, even 65 years later
    Irrelevant to what, some implied assertion that Patton was a Germanophile? I'm unsure what it is you're contesting. Patton is a guy who publicly urinated in the Rhine to show his disrespect for Germany, so taken in totality, it's very doubtful he'd be mistaken for being a German lover. Moreover, he said disparaging things about Germany in his war memoirs which were also published AFTER the war. Would you care to see excerpts?

    A close reading of the article you posted shows that Patton was less pro-German in his sentiments than he was anti-Soviet. Though often accused of lacking political skills, Patton was engaging in Realpolitik in realizing that Germany had to be set up as a buffer state to blunt Soviet Communism in Europe. Ironically, his view later came to be more or less the official policy in Washington, as the Truman government dispensed with the Morgenthau Plan. Few will mistake the Truman Administration for Germanophiles either.

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    I just got done reading a very good book on Patton and I recommend any
    die hard fan of Patton to give this book a shot.It's simply called "Patton"and
    it is written by Carlos D'Este.

    Patton,after witnessing the disgusting habits of those Jewish animals from
    Russia,did a complete 360 and realized that the Nazis had been right all
    along and he came to the conclusion that we needed to use what was left
    of the German Army and with a "Right Flanking Motion" destroy the Commies
    once and for all.

    He also disagreed with the de-Nazification of Germany and thought it to be
    criminal and utterly un-American.These are his words in quotes.

    "I accepted the job with the Fifteenth Army because I was reluctant,in fact
    unwilling,to be a party to the destruction of Germany under the pretense
    of de-Nazification...the utterly un-American and almost Gestapo methods
    of de-Nazification were so abhorrent to my Anglo-Saxon mind as to be practically indigestible....I believe Germany should not be destroyed,but
    rather rebuilt as a buffer against the real danger which is Bolshevism from
    Russia."

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    Originally Posted by OneWolf
    Patton,after witnessing the disgusting habits of those Jewish animals from
    Russia,did a complete 360 and realized that the Nazis had been right all
    along
    Right all along? Are you suggesting that Patton recanted in his view that Germany needed to lose the war? Patton himself always insisted he hated Nazis as much as the next person.

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    Patton and history

    Who cares what Patton may have personally thought. He was an American General who's sole reason for existence was to come to grips with the enemy and destroy them on the battle field. Which he did. The Soviets then become the new enemy and his response was the same. The only issue is that Policy is made in Washington in both the Congress and the White House not based on the opinion of a General.

    End of story...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ædiruc View Post
    Hasn't this been posted here before already?
    Correct, its here somewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wittwer View Post
    Who cares what Patton may have personally thought. He was an American General who's sole reason for existence was to come to grips with the enemy and destroy them on the battle field. Which he did. The Soviets then become the new enemy and his response was the same. The only issue is that Policy is made in Washington in both the Congress and the White House not based on the opinion of a General.

    End of story...
    Well, the Reich lovers would love to reinvent Patton as a convert to the view that the Nazis were right, but the reality is far more nuianced. Patton was a right-winger, as military types tend to be, and he hated Communism. As such, he had a less intense view toward things like de-Nazification than other decision makers because he wanted to shift focus to opposing the USSR. In that he was correct, and eventually his view won out, even if only after he died, and despite the tendency of his liberal critics to ignore the fact that his view won out.

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    General Patton Was Assassinated to Silence His Criticism of Allied War Leaders Claims New Book
    http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=110961

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    Actually he was assassinated to keep him from "Spilling the Beans" so to
    say and also to keep him from going into politics.He had been sending his
    wife documents that proved that the Germans where not in the wrong when
    it came to the "Jewish Question".He had in his possesion the original draft
    of the "Nuremburg Laws" that the Jews claimed he "Stole" and he said he would
    exonerate the German people and he would do so when he got back to the
    States.He was very popular with the American public and could have easily
    been elected President instead of Eisencoward,or Eisenhower.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010...ional-archives

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    Patton and history

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe McCarthy View Post
    Well, the Reich lovers would love to reinvent Patton as a convert to the view that the Nazis were right, but the reality is far more nuianced. Patton was a right-winger, as military types tend to be, and he hated Communism. As such, he had a less intense view toward things like de-Nazification than other decision makers because he wanted to shift focus to opposing the USSR. In that he was correct, and eventually his view won out, even if only after he died, and despite the tendency of his liberal critics to ignore the fact that his view won out.
    More nuianced? It's called the "Chain of Command". It's ok to debate the issue prior to the decision, but once the desision is made, it's "Yes Sir, how high Sir" even for Generals. There is the reason why the President is the "Commander in Chief" based on the advice and consent of Congress.

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