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    Commentary on Wilhelm Marr's "The Victory of Judaism Over Germanism"

    Here are some excerpts from a commentary on Wilhelm Marr’s (1819 – 1904) The Victory of Judaism over Germanism: Viewed from a Nonreligious Point of View by Kevin MacDonald

    http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net...nald-Marr.html

    Marr describes his writing as “a ‘scream of pain’ coming from the oppressed” (p. 6). Marr sees Germans as having already lost the battle with Jewry: “Judaism has triumphed on a worldwide historical, basis. I shall bring the news of a lost battle and of the victory of the enemy and all of that I shall do without offering excuses for the defeated army.”
    In other words, Marr is not blaming the Jews for their predominance in German society, but rather blaming the Germans for allowing this to happen. He sees historical hatred against Jews as due to their occupational profile (“the loathing Jews demonstrate for real work” — a gratuitously negative and overly generalized reference to the Jewish occupational profile) and to “their codified hatred against all non-Jews” (p. 8). Historical anti-Semitism often had a religious veneer, but it was actually motivated by “the struggle of nations and their response to the very real Judaization of society, that is, to a battle for survival…. I therefore unconditionally defend Jewry against any and all religious persecution” (p. 10).
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    One of Marr’s most interesting observations is his proposal that Germans formed idealistic images of Jews during the Enlightenment when others had more realistic and negative views. Jews are realists, accepting the world as it is and advancing their interests based on their understanding of this reality. Judaism is characterized by particularlst morality (Is it good for the Jews?). Germans, on the other hand, tend to have idealized images of themselves and others — to believe that the human mind can construct reality based on ideals that can then shape behavior. They are predisposed to moral universalism — moral rules apply to everyone and are not dependent on whether it benefits the ingroup.
    This is a reference to the powerful idealist strand of German philosophy that has been so influential in the culture of the West. An illustrative example is American transcendentalism, a movement that created an indigenous culture of critique in 19th-century America. This perspective resulted in overly optimistic views of human nature and tended toward radical egalitarianism; it also provided the theoretical underpinnings the abolitionist movement among elite intellectuals like Ralph Waldo Emerson.
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    Another trait of Germans that Marr sees as deleterious is “abstract individualism.” Marr states that Jewish economic success within capitalism is “in agreement with the dogma of ‘abstract individualism’ which you have accepted with enthusiasm from the hands of Judaism” (p. 30). In other words, Marr believed that individualism was something Jews imposed on Germany, not a tendency within the Germans themselves. (Contrary to Marr's position, I have argued that the fundamental uniqueness of European peoples is a greater tendency toward individualism than other human groups. Individualism then leads to moral universalism, a form of idealism, rather than the tribally-based morality of groups like the Jews.) As noted above, Marr (correctly) believed that individualistic societies are relatively defenseless against Jews, whereas societies centered around a strong collectivist religious core (e.g., medieval Christianity) or a strong sense of ethnic nationalism are more able to defend themselves.

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    Marr and his group is what Nietzsche was referring to when he discussed the envy and ressentiment of anti-Semites. How one interprets that depends on one's perspective.

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    Marr simply gave up struggling and describes the things what happen if you stop struggling.

    I personally don't see it that hopeless. In contrary I see more and more 'anti-semitism' which is a light on the end of the tunnel.

    Just keep struggling and see where you want to go and keep going. Things will turn around if you are persistant.

    And as Mahatma Ghandi said: The change is first a personal one after you change others will follow.
    weel nich will dieken dej mot wieken

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    Marr did touch on a good point, if only incidentally. Once free of restrictions, Jews are prone to amass financial power and the socio-political clout that follows. That they achieve success is not to be frowned on. What they do with the fruits of such success in the public arena is what is worrisome.

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    Judaism is characterized by particularlst morality (Is it good for the Jews?). Germans, on the other hand, tend to have idealized images of themselves and others — to believe that the human mind can construct reality based on ideals that can then shape behavior. They are predisposed to moral universalism — moral rules apply to everyone and are not dependent on whether it benefits the ingroup.
    Well, the Pentateuch of the Old Testament sure seems to be 100% moral universalism to me. I guess I'll need to read the Talmud to read how they explain all that away.

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    The world view of the Germanic peoples as it has been passed down to us, is despite its variability one that is focused on the community as the centre of the cosmos. Outside forces are antagonistic forces and outsiders are not ascribed any social value at all, whatever their specific value may be. This tribal attitude is a normal and healthy state of mind and the source of ethnocentrism as the core component in modern German nationalism.

    In this sense, the idea of "Germanic universalism" is a misnomer that falsely implies universalism to be a Germanic inheritance. A much more likely source is found in the development of Hellenistic Judaism, where its gentile followers were not ethnically assimilated and instead became a non-ethnic universal faith community that gains new followers through ideological conversion rather than through the biological development of the ancestral community.

    Considering that Westernism is the bastard child of this ideology, it is particularly ironic that people like Wilhelm Marr and Kevin MacDonald try to pass off Western universalism as specifically "German" and positively affirm it as something to be saved from its inherent disease by means of additional Judaisation.

    The reality is that Western man is a diseased degenerate. What the Germanic peoples have to work for is his euthanasia, not the continuation of his pathetic existence that is in his hostile mind the only proper fate for Germanics everywhere.

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