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    Pre-Proto-Germanic Substratum in Proto-Slavic

    I have been made aware of an article discussing Centum dialects of Indo-European in what later became Slavic-speaking territory and in particular the possible influence of pre-proto-Germanic varieties during the formative stage of proto-Slavic. I am presently unable to obtain the article and I would be interested to have its content summarised by someone who has access to it or has read it already. In particular, I would be interested to know if this influence goes beyond lexicon.

    The citation is: Nichols, Johanna (1999), "The Eurasian Spread and the Indo-European dispersal", in Blench, Roger, Archaeology and Language: Correlating archaeological and linguistic hypotheses.

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    How urgent is this? I can certainly ask my lecturers, especially the one fairly knowledgeable on Slavistics, whether they have access to the article and could copy it for me to scan, but it won't be until next week. Meaning, either Monday or Thursday.

    What I can do before that though is to perhaps check the library catalogue whether it is available through here. I need to look for an article myself, and could include that in the search. Certainly, if it's not available in Innsbruck, it could well be available through Vienna on distance-order.
    -In kalte Schatten versunken... /Germaniens Volk erstarrt / Gefroren von Lügen / In denen die Welt verharrt-
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    -Auch ich verspüre Demut / Vor dem alten Geiste der Ahnen / Wird es mir vergönnt sein / Gen Walhalla aufzufahren?-

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    Not urgent at all, just my private leisure. It should be interesting to discuss it in light of suggestions that Germanic has a somewhat closer relationship with a hypothetical Balto-Slavic group than other branches and pre-proto-Germanic influence might at least partially explain the nature of this relationship.

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    You can view most of the article through Google Scholar. You just might be able to tell if the article's worth pursueing. But what Google offers is probably more tantalising than helpful.

    *Click*

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    So, are you still interested in the entire article then, after leafing through Anlef's link, or is it not helpful to what you're looking for (I tried the link, but for me it doesn't load the pictures )?

    I wasn't able to track it down at the University of Innsbruck, however the online catalogue tells me they should have Vol.1-3 of "Archeology and Language" available at the University of Vienna. I presume that Vol.3 contains said article since it lists 1999 as the publishing date. So yes, I would have access to the article one way or the other.

    The €2.00 it usually costs for a domestic distance loan would be no problem for the use of a (oft difficult and humourless, but cherished []) comrade, but the cost as well as the 10-14 day waiting span wouldn't be much use if it's for nothing.
    -In kalte Schatten versunken... /Germaniens Volk erstarrt / Gefroren von Lügen / In denen die Welt verharrt-
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    -Auch ich verspüre Demut / Vor dem alten Geiste der Ahnen / Wird es mir vergönnt sein / Gen Walhalla aufzufahren?-

    (Heimdalls Wacht, In kalte Schatten versunken, stanzas 4-6)

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    Page 248 is certainly interesting, sandwiched between the missing pages 247 and 249-251:

    Quote Originally Posted by J. Nichols
    Germanic is now the truncated western periphery of the earlier pre-Proto-Germanic range which must have extended over most of the forest trajectory at one time. The eastern part of the range was swallowed by the Baltic spread, and some of the central part may have been engulfed by the Venetic and Slavic spreads.
    Footnote 7 is indicated for this claim, but the footnotes seem to be missing in the scanned preview...?

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    So, are you still interested in the entire article then
    Yes, please, and thank you for sacrificing some of your beer money.

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    Balto-Slavic is a composite family of disparate origins. Not only is Grad from Gard, Karol from Karl, but Vladimir is from Waldemar--think Walter and Eomer, Ricimer, Theudemer, Osmer, etc.

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