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    V-Weapons Over Britain

    How do you as an Englishman feel about the bombing of London by National Socialist Germany?

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    The Blitz was the sustained bombing of Britain by Nazi Germany between 7 September 1940 and 10 May 1941,[1] in World War II. While the Blitz hit many towns and cities across the country, it began with the bombing of London for 57 consecutive nights.[5] By the end of May 1941, over 43,000 civilians, half of them in London, had been killed by bombing and more than a million houses were destroyed or damaged in London alone.[6][7]
    London was not the only city to suffer Luftwaffe bombing during the Blitz. Other important military and industrial centres, such as Belfast, Birmingham, Bristol, Cardiff, Clydebank, Coventry, Exeter, Greenock, Sheffield, Swansea, Liverpool, Hull (the most heavily bombed city outside of London), Manchester, Portsmouth, Plymouth, Nottingham, Brighton, Eastbourne, Sunderland and Southampton, suffered heavy air raids and high numbers of casualties. Adolf Hitler's aim was to destroy British civilian and governmental morale.
    Its intended goal of demoralizing the British into surrender unachieved,[8] the Blitz did little to facilitate potential German invasion. By May 1941, the imminent threat of an invasion of Britain had passed and Hitler's attention was focused on the east. While the Germans never again managed to bomb Britain on such a large scale, they carried out smaller attacks throughout the war, taking the civilian death toll to 51,509 from bombing. In 1944, the development of pilotless V-1 flying bombs and V-2 rockets briefly enabled Germany to again attack London with weapons launched from the European continent. In total, the V weapons killed 8,938 civilians in London and the south east
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    My Grandparents and my Mother (who was just a girl at the time), lived through the Blitz in London. It wasn’t nice, lots of neighbours died, the house next door was blown to bits, a shelter in the next road took a direct hit and over 300 men, women and children died instantly….but it was war, and we knew we were doing the same to them!

    When the Blitz finished the V weapons started. My Wife’s Aunt was on a bus in London that was hit by a V2. She and most of the street died instantly…it was war.

    The only thing they said they really feared was the gas, but it never came, that at least was a mercy. All in all, I don’t think that Londoners felt that badly against Germans for the bombing, mainly because we were doing it to them as well. But if Gas had been used (as in WW1), that I think would have been very very different!


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    As I understand it, Britain bombed German cities first. The Luftwaffe bombed British cities with only around 5% of what the RAF dropped on German cities.

    I feel ashamed that British bombs destroyed so much of Germany and killed so many. I believe this was avoidable, particularly the later gratuitous and pointless destruction of Dresden and other cultural and population centres. Had the war ended differently those responsible for this policy would have been rightly charged with war crimes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haereticus View Post
    As I understand it, Britain bombed German cities first. The Luftwaffe bombed British cities with only around 5% of what the RAF dropped on German cities.
    You may well be right! I always thought that the Germans bombed civilian targets in London first, by mistake, and that we responded in kind on Berlin, but what the truth of that is, I do not know! As for the tonnage of bombs dropped, you have to remember that as the war drew on, we were in a much stronger position to bomb Germany than they were us...it was war!

    I feel ashamed that British bombs destroyed so much of Germany and killed so many. I believe this was avoidable, particularly the later gratuitous and pointless destruction of Dresden and other cultural and population centres.
    I agree! The destruction of Dresden was nothing short of disgraceful, it had by then very little if any military value and was a declared 'open city' full of refugees. It was nothing more than an excersize in 'terror' to force Germany to surrender.

    Had the war ended differently those responsible for this policy would have been rightly charged with war crimes.
    Agreed!


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    What do I think about V2 bombs over London, not a lot, I'm from Nottingham, I think a lone Nazi fighter straffed Nottingham market square on the way home once and that's it. You can still see the bullet holes apparently. The V2 was the first space rocket, that's what I'm interested in.

    You may well be right! I always thought that the Germans bombed civilian targets in London first, by mistake, and that we responded in kind on Berlin, but what the truth of that is, I do not know!
    Google the phoney war.

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    Angry, considering the RAF was bombing legitimate military targets at the same time.

    The RAF attacked a submarine base at Bremen and the Luftwaffe responded by levelling Coventry to the ground, what do you expect me to feel?

    People supported the raids on Germany because A) they wanted revenge (wouldn't you?) and B) they believed that it would end the war quicker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BritishLad View Post
    Angry, considering the RAF was bombing legitimate military targets at the same time.
    I think that your facts are a little skewed, which is not surprising given the British biased education where History is concerned. The British were the first to kill using air attacks on the 3rd and 4th of September 1939 when 8 Kriegsmarine were killed during an attack on Wilhelmshaven.

    The British also hold the dubious honour of launching the first attacks on a civilian target on the 15th May 1940, and hold the record for killing the most civilians, both in a single raid (Hamburg 50,000 or Dresden 25,000/100,000 - depending whose evidence you believe) and in the whole war.

    So don't believe the tripe that the British fought an honourable war, that's the stuff of cinema (and British school history books).

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    Further to this, Churchill wrote on his very first day in office (May 10th, 1940) that the way to beat Germany was ...

    "by an absolutely devastating, exterminating attack by very heavy bombers from this country upon the Nazi homeland."

    This was well before any attack on British cities by the Luftwaffe, and shows what Churchill had in store for German civilians as soon as he got the opportunity!

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    In 1940-1941 it was Britain that was bearing the brunt of the air raids on civilian targets. The worst for Germany didn't come until 1944-1945.

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