The New World Identity: White, Germanic or Anglo-Colonial?

[Nachtengel]

I made a thread some time ago, called Who Can Become an American? and some people voted that only Germanics or even more strictly Anglo-Saxons can be true Americans. Some people are more inclusive and accept non-Germanic whites.

Many people from the New World seem to be keen on expressing a different ethnic identity, closer to the one of their ancestors in Europe than the one in the New World.

What identity would you prefer for the New World? The New World is predominantly English, or Anglo-Colonial, at least by language/culture. Do you prefer this identity and do you think other Germanics, like Germans, or other whites, like Italians, can fit in? If not, what should be done about them? Incorporate them in the wide Anglo-Colonial identity? Live segregated? Secede? Please discuss civilly and vote.

[Ingwë]

Speaking for Australia I believe Australia would have prospered under its continual "White Australia Policy" and maintaining its close ties with Britain. I believe Australia could have been a hub for Germanic expression to world contribution in the name of conquest. Therefore it should have only accepted Anglo-Saxon and to a lesser extent other Northern European migration.

[Resist]

I voted Anglo-Colonial, because this is what I prefer for Canada, as I said before. I would like it if the French-Canadians were independent from us, and we maintained a mono-cultural country.

However I don't think it's the case for every other New World nation. It probably is for Australia and New Zealand, maybe even for the USA with some effort, but not for South Africa.

[Hauke Haien]

The facts on the ground point to an Anglo-colonial identity, which is often only implicit by considering all those who fail to conform to be "ethnics". All ethnic consciousness is derivative, retrofitted into a framework of individualism-statism with international racism added as an afterthought among white "nationalists". On top of that, Americanism serves as a global blanket.

How this can be changed advantageously depends on context. A Boer might want to emphasise his own Germanic identity as well as its Germanic character without accepting other Germanics incompatible with it or even hostile to it. An Australian might prefer an ethnogenesis that involves all Australians, while recognising the need to maintain a Germanic, preferably Anglo-Saxon, culture and to sort out unwanted racial types as a matter of national demographic policy, working continuously over time.

[Old Winter]

As a ethnic Dutch i voted Germanic.

[Æmeric]

I voted for Anglo-Colonial. The English were the founders of the US, they created & shaped its institutions until the mid 20th century, they have been the largest contributor to the genetic stock of the Euro-American population. I also think this is best for Australia & New Zealand.

In Canada there is the Canadiens but they are concentrated in Quebec & part of neighboring New Brunswick. Outside of that area, Anglo-Colonial or Anglo-Celt Colonial would fit.

[Sturmbaon]

I would prefer a pure(!) Germanic one, but I know, it is an impossible demand.

[Méldmir]

If it was to be Anglo-Colonial, wouldn't 99,999% of the American population have to reorientate, and be replaced by Anglo-Saxons who were born in England in modern times? Maybe the English of today could create a new USA under British control, and make sure the culture and loyalty do not change or disappear. But America today and its culture is not Anglo-Saxon, so where would all of them go?

What America realistically could do would be to change the immigration laws, so that they in the future only accept English people, who could fill all the important roles in society, and pull America to English values and culture, and to assimilate all mixed-ancestry Americans toward that. Because it is true that almost all Americans are mixed-ancestry, and really have no other home nation than the New World colonies. To me, the New World is very little "Anglo", it's actually more just "White". But I do believe there could be an American ethnicity.

The question is what the American ethnicity should be, which is what this thread is about. Anglo, Germanic or White. Anglo is not possible without a major "extermination" of almost every single American. Germanic is more realistic. North-West European is even more realistic, it would include both Celts and Germanics. White is of course even more realistic, but is it wanted to include all southern Europeans as Americans?

[baroqueorgan]

Honestly I think the US is kind of a lost cause in this regard - the cities are all extremely nonwhite, not to mention germanic, and frankly there is such a mixture of people that it's almost impossible to sort out without splitting up the country, which is what may up happening in the future.

Some areas of the country like New England (northeast) still have many very English towns, and a lot of places midwest have a lot of Germans still. But different parts of the country are now so different that it's really hard to sort out any sort of identity at all (especially since almost all of the cities are lost.)

[rainman]

A country should have its own identity. The days of colonies are over.

I see Germanic more as a history- as roots. I want to forge a new people- new culture etc. that is better than the people around me and that lives up to higher standards and more evolved ethics and cultural practices.

Nations today are not racial nations. Other than maybe some parts of Europe it is useless to think otherwise at this point. To create a racial nation for Germanics in the New World one would have to start a whole new nation and secede from the union.

The U.S. and other nations are multicultural political governing bodies. I would rather form my own identity within those larger nations and seek to form some sort of small seperatist nation- like an Israel for modern whites or Germanics. Most Anglo-Saxons, whites etc. that I see are a disgrace. They shame their race and have no cultural/racial pride. I have don't feel a kinship with them nor a desire to preserve their flawed ways.