View Poll Results: How English Are You?

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  • Fully English

    34 16.59%
  • Predominantly English with very minor other British ancestry

    24 11.71%
  • Predominantly English with very minor other European ancestry

    15 7.32%
  • 7/8ths English 1/8th other British

    6 2.93%
  • 7/8ths English 1/8th other European

    6 2.93%
  • 3/4 English 1/4 other British

    9 4.39%
  • 3/4 English 1/4 other European

    14 6.83%
  • Half English, Half other European

    25 12.20%
  • Less than half English, but fully British

    4 1.95%
  • Less than half English and not fully British

    16 7.80%
  • I have both other British and other European ancestry (explain)

    15 7.32%
  • Other

    20 9.76%
  • Half English, half other British

    17 8.29%
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    Looks like I'm English

    As far back as I have been able to trace my family on both sides, it looks like we are Norwegian, Scottish, and English.

    Half of my dad's family are from Northumberland, which is about as far north as one can get and still be English, although they have more in common with the lowland Scots than English of other regions. The other half were Norwegian.

    My mother's family are Anglo-Normans, who came originally from Norway by way of Normandy, and Scottish. The Scots were from Cumberland.

    I was always told growing up that we were part viking and that our ancestors came from Norway; research has borne that out.

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    I want to be devil’s advocate for fun. Proof me wrong.

    I’m sort of Ango-Saxon related, but I’m 100% NOT English.

    If you look at what Anglo and Saxon means you will see why. As I understand it, the Anglos are the white faces (probably Flemish/Dutch) and the Saxons are German. The combination is English?

    The English people used to say Afrikaans in SA is kitchen Dutch. Using the same criteria, English can be called kitchen German.

    Some English king’s(?) wife was from the lower middleclass and she taught the princes to speak Anglo-Saxon. He(?), when he became king, made Anglo-Saxon (English) the language of the royal court and we see the result of it today.

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    My ancestry has gone back to the beginning of the Norman era due to being a descendent of Flemish and Norman Viking lords and an illegitimate child of Henry I.
    However, all the records are in Norman or Middle English. I can't read it to go back further as I can't find someone to translate Norman for me at the moment.
    Also goes back to Ulster where it goes dead in the 1800s. Not sure why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by karlstar View Post
    My ancestry has gone back to the beginning of the Norman era due to being a descendent of Flemish and Norman Viking lords and an illegitimate child of Henry I.
    However, all the records are in Norman or Middle English. I can't read it to go back further as I can't find someone to translate Norman for me at the moment.
    Also goes back to Ulster where it goes dead in the 1800s. Not sure why.
    I noticed you selected 'less than half English and not fully British'. This makes little sense, given what you stated. If your 'foreign' ancestry is Norman, then we're talking roughly 1000 years ago. Do you have any idea how many living ancestors you had 1000 years ago? Millions. Those Normans and Flemish (presumably along your patrilineal line) were just a couple out of a million or so living ancestors of the time, meaning that unless they bred exclusively or even primarily with other Norman-descendants (which is very unlikely), then you're no less English or more Norman than anybody else.

    It's a strange mistake that people make to associate with the paternal lineage to the neglect with all others, and somehow feel their paternal lineage is somehow more refelctive of their overall make-up.

    The only way what you voted could be correct is if your Ulster heritage is very recent (i.e. one parent was 100% Ulster).

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    half english north east england yorkshire on mother side and half spanish on father side and my subrace is Germanic Tronder with strong cromagnid component like my mother same type as actor Ewan Mc Gregor

    my father is Alpine Med + Dinarid

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    Roughly half English and half Irish.

    My father and mother both have a parent who came over from Ireland. Wikipedia has my surname under the category "Gaelic families of Norse descent".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devils__Advocate View Post
    100% English.

    From genealogical and DNA tests I can proudly say I am one of the elite.
    Which DNA test would this be? And do you have any Keltic in you, are you entirely Anglo-Saxon, or do you mean you have Norman-Anglo-Saxon blood without a trace of Keltic?

    I'd assume you mean no Norman ancestry either, since the Norman conquerors had all taken French wives, including William himself (my ancestor). I am also descended from Alfred the Great (Anglo Saxon), but he and his descendants interbred with Kelts.

    Once in the United States (Jamestown, 1621), my English ancestors married only English until my great grandfather married the daughter of a German family (with its own coat of arms), and then that Half-English/Half-German grandmother of mine married a full-blooded German.

    But, that full-blooded German (for a variety of reasons) distanced himself culturally from his family (Mennonite) and embraced my grandmother's British ways (as did the German woman who married into the family). Being English was very important to them, culturally.

    On my paternal side, the situation is even more complex, Frankish, Scots, Kelto-Roman, pure Keltic, tiny bit English. But again, the English cultural values prevailed in our family.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melisande View Post
    Which DNA test would this be? And do you have any Keltic in you, are you entirely Anglo-Saxon, or do you mean you have Norman-Anglo-Saxon blood without a trace of Keltic?

    I'd assume you mean no Norman ancestry either, since the Norman conquerors had all taken French wives, including William himself (my ancestor). I am also descended from Alfred the Great (Anglo Saxon), but he and his descendants interbred with Kelts.

    Once in the United States (Jamestown, 1621), my English ancestors married only English until my great grandfather married the daughter of a German family (with its own coat of arms), and then that Half-English/Half-German grandmother of mine married a full-blooded German.

    But, that full-blooded German (for a variety of reasons) distanced himself culturally from his family (Mennonite) and embraced my grandmother's British ways (as did the German woman who married into the family). Being English was very important to them, culturally.

    On my paternal side, the situation is even more complex, Frankish, Scots, Kelto-Roman, pure Keltic, tiny bit English. But again, the English cultural values prevailed in our family.
    Why do keep posting the same stuff? Why does it offend you that some people feel fully English?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamar Fox View Post
    Why do keep posting the same stuff? Why does it offend you that some people feel fully English?
    It doesn't. I've had my own genetic testing done - and I'm giving my background because that's what shows up in my testing.

    However, the autosomal testing kits I've had do not in fact look at thousands of markers - just a handful. My tests cost in the range of $300, I know there are new ones out there that are in the $900 range - but even those cannot give you your "full inheritance." I can't imagine how one could get much further back than 8-10 generations of *complete* genealogy - in our case, as I keep mentioning, we have hired professional genealogists.

    My point is that my great grandmother had a strong claim to being "full English," but we have genetic tests on her as well - and there are no markers that indicate "full English," only that she is 99% European with a strong amount of markers from the Isles. I know of NO test that will exclude the proportion of gene markers that come from outside of Europe and I know of NO test that could show a person to be 100% British.

    That's why. I'm a bit of a stickler for detail. Why does that bother you, might I ask?

    If it's a matter of cultural pride to state that one is 100% something, that's fine - but I am very interested in the science. If there's a kit out there specifically for "English" markers, I'd sure like to know about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melisande View Post
    only that she is 99% European with a strong amount of markers from the Isles.
    What was the other 1%? Statistical noise?

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