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    75% Londoners Support Calls to Ban Minarets in Capital

    75% support for the ban on minarets in London Daily News poll. Londoners support the Swiss government’s decision to ban minarets and mosques according to a new poll in The London Daily News, further highlighting the "sensitivities" and concerns in the capital at the growing influence of Islam.

    Callers to London's leading early morning radio show, the Nick Ferrari programme on LBC, also expressed their concerns with one caller citing how "out of character" a minaret would be if built in London.

    London is the home to one of the largest number of mosques in the western world,apart from Turkey, with estimates putting the number at over one hundred. The "minaret" issue has become ever more controversial with the growth of Islamic extremism in the capital, and calls by a minority for Sharia law to be observed by all (...)
    http://www.thelondondailynews.com/lo...al-p-3609.html

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    Good, some sense. Thing is, our government won't listen to the 75%.

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    Pfft, London isn't even 75% White. The whole anti-Islam frenzy is a red herring. It doesn't mean the people involved have racial concerns. it doesn't mean they wouldn't accept Turks, Arabs, S. Asians who are non-Muslim. In my experience, most anti-Islamics are quite PC when it comes to race, and I've long since rejected them as no hopers.

    Personally, I couldn't care less how many mosques they build. It's the people who build them I care about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamar Fox View Post
    Pfft, London isn't even 75% White. The whole anti-Islam frenzy is a red herring. It doesn't mean the people involved have racial concerns. it doesn't mean they wouldn't accept Turks, Arabs, S. Asians who are non-Muslim. In my experience, most anti-Islamics are quite PC when it comes to race, and I've long since rejected them as no hopers.

    Personally, I couldn't care less how many mosques they build. It's the people who build them I care about.
    This is true, but do you realise how fringe it is to actually acknowledge racial concerns openly in public? Nobody does this because it means instant blacklisting and alienation.

    I think that more can be read into this - Europeans are not going to openly admit having racial concerns, but they use issues like Islamisation as outlets to easily vent the feelings they have on being diluted culturally, and yes, also ethnically.

    I follow right wing politics across the spectrum closely from sanitised politicians like David Cameron and Sarah Palin to fringe guys like Nigel Farage and Pat Buchanan, to really fringe guys like Lega Nord and the SIOE people, all the way to people like Nick Griffin, and I think that it's important to see the whole thing as one unified movement, despite the wide host of disagreements we have with a moderate tool of the establishment like Cameron.

    This is how the left sees their movement - you don't see Barack Obama attacking communists the way John McCain and every other right wing politician has to constantly denounce Nazis, and you see that in the end, communists are basically supportive of politicians like the Clintons, Gordon Brown, etc, because they know that these politicians, while perhaps not as extremist as they are, will move the political spectrum in the direction that they want.

    So that's my rant on the fractious nature of right wing politics, it's a huge problem in my opinion that we all feel that we have to constantly denounce and revile different parts of our same spectrum. The mainstream, more sanitised pushers play an important role in the greater scheme of things. People like, for example, Berlusconi, are essential to our cause, even if we don't ultimately agree with them on very much.

    Anyway, as for this 75% poll, that is an astounding percentage. That's basically like EVERY SINGLE WHITE PERSON in London polled "no" to minarets, which, if accurate, is just amazing.

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    The Sikhs, the Hindus, the Black Christians, the Catholic immigrants (Poles etc) surely do not want minarets, and they make up a big part of London however their opinions are irrelevant because they are themselves no better than Muslims and their Minarets.

    But yeah, the few white ethnic Londoners left probably do not want it either. If we were to make a poll among them, I'd say over 50% would not want them, at least.

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    I follow right wing politics across the spectrum closely from sanitised politicians like David Cameron and Sarah Palin to fringe guys like Nigel Farage and Pat Buchanan, to really fringe guys like Lega Nord and the SIOE people, all the way to people like Nick Griffin, and I think that it's important to see the whole thing as one unified movement, despite the wide host of disagreements we have with a moderate tool of the establishment like Cameron.
    Why would we want to be unified with Jewish right-wing politicans? I am not sure how this helps.

    The 'two side' thing is a problem itself. Both sides are a problem and both are entirely new. Their ravaging has been only occuring for less than a century.

    To me, the typical 'far left - far right' thing seems like a choice between the Soivet/European Union and the American/Israeli Empire. None of these are what I want.

    If anything, nationalists have been fooled into thinking we are right-winged simply because the Liberals tell us we are.

    The wings themselves are nothing more than different branches of the same enemy. I live in a conservative place, but it is just as bad as a Liberal one. Communists may bitch that it is Fascist because Christmas trees are at the university, but that does not change the fact that immigration occurs and one cannot even talk about race still; or all the equality (aka, no 'white men' at government positions) stuff we all know about.

    So that's my rant on the fractious nature of right wing politics, it's a huge problem in my opinion that we all feel that we have to constantly denounce and revile different parts of our same spectrum. The mainstream, more sanitised pushers play an important role in the greater scheme of things. People like, for example, Berlusconi, are essential to our cause, even if we don't ultimately agree with them on very much.
    I am sure most people do support Berlusconi's ideas of keeping Italy Italian.

    Anyway, as for this 75% poll, that is an astounding percentage. That's basically like EVERY SINGLE WHITE PERSON in London polled "no" to minarets, which, if accurate, is just amazing.
    Remember that all the Hindi/Sikh members absoutely hate Islam, as well. The Negros from former colonies are also usually extremist Christians (I have spoken to many in the UK), so they would not like Muslims either.

    Most Europeans who are Atheist and anti-Christian seem to love Muslims. I have spoken to many homosexuals like that and all of them cheer for it, despite the fact that in 20 years they are likely to be publicly stoned to death. Idiots.

    I think all of this backlash is a result of multiculturalism. Put one culture above the rest and everyone wants to kill it. Classing minorities as one group is not really true, as minorities tend to feel poorly about eachtother too.


    As for the ban subject spreading, I welcome it. People think we have to do everything in one shot, but I disagree. Look at the career of any great European (Frederick, Bismarck, or whatever); all of them started with marginal success mixed with failures, yet once they made it through the barrier, suddenly everything changed. This can happen for European identity, too. What is just Muslim towers today might be Burkas tomorrow, which might be Mosques the next day, then the Muslims after that, finally reaching the Arabs, then all non-Europeans.

    Give normal people a chance to realise they are not powerless. Most of the average people I talk to (family, friends, random, even some professors) agree with what we say here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Penda Seaxwulf View Post
    Good, some sense. Thing is, our government won't listen to the 75%.
    Same thing in Switzerland: The minaret ban was supported by a majority of voters, whereas the government opposed the minaret ban unanimously, contrary to what is said in the newspaper article above.

    Swiss government - in collaboration with the EU and the UN - will do whatever is possible to ignore the result of the popular vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HamilkarBarkas
    Swiss government - in collaboration with the EU and the UN - will do whatever is possible to ignore the result of the popular vote.
    Yes, they will, and with that they will make clear to their people that they dont care about them. One by one people will be forced into the 'right-wing' spectrum, because they at least try.

    This development will at one point get a huge momentum, when people one after another realise that they are sold to multiculturalism and sharia law, with their needs and wants and opinions ignored and suppressed.

    And actually, those voting / poll results I consider to be the beginning of gaining that momentum, and with every ignored one it gets more energy. It is just a question of (hopefully not too long) time until there will be more than just words
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    London is the home to one of the largest number of mosques in the western world,apart from Turkey, with estimates putting the number at over one hundred.
    Since when does Turkey, situated in Asia Minor, belong to the "western world?"
    The answer to 1984 is 1776.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forseti View Post
    Since when does Turkey, situated in Asia Minor, belong to the "western world?"
    Since about the time when the EU politruks started propagating for Turkey entering the EU .

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