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    Question How Bad is the Turkish Problem in Germany?

    Iv'e heard there are quite alot of them in Germany; also, do they come to other nations as well? Why?

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    Yes, a lot. In Holland, Belgium, Switzerland and Bulgaria.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not a Turk View Post
    Why?
    Because they were sent to us in the 60s for work. But instead of returning after their work was done, they brought their wives to Germany, as well, and began to reproduce.
    The Indians did not stop the flood of immigrants - today they live in reservations.

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    Turkey has an excess population and is still growing, so they dump it all in Europe. They do not have any colonies any more.

    Personally I think they are evil people. They dump so many of their religious fanatics into Germany, even though Germany was a strong ally of Turkey.

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    Fortunately, there are relatively few Turks in the UK (at the moment!) because we get most of our Muslims from elsewhere.

    If the EU ever admits Turkey though the situation will be horrendous with 75 million of them free to travel wherever this wish. Their culture and mentality simply isn't European and only a tiny percentage of their country is actually situated in Europe - most of it is in the Middle east!

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    There are already quite a few Turkish ghettoes in German cities, and those are constantly growing even now. There's a saying that Berlin is the world's second largest Turkish city. While this may be far from the truth in statistical terms, one can certainly get that impression fairly easily. There is, of course, also an influx of Mohammedans from other countries, further adding to the problem at hand.

    You won't get any of this from the national media, though. They've taken to labelling every case of violence against Germans as isolated incidents. That is if they're even mentioned beyond a local level. They also usually don't mention the criminal's nationality, and at times even anonymise the suspects by changing Erkan and Ali's names to Hans and Peter in their articles.

    And then there's also the ludicrously large number of mosques in Germany, with 200 new ones still in construction...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Josef View Post
    There are already quite a few Turkish ghettoes in German cities, and those are constantly growing even now. There's a saying that Berlin is the world's second largest Turkish city. While this may be far from the truth in statistical terms, one can certainly get that impression fairly easily. There is, of course, also an influx of Mohammedans from other countries, further adding to the problem at hand.

    You won't get any of this from the national media, though. They've taken to labelling every case of violence against Germans as isolated incidents. That is if they're even mentioned beyond a local level. They also usually don't mention the criminal's nationality, and at times even anonymise the suspects by changing Erkan and Ali's names to Hans and Peter in their articles.

    And then there's also the ludicrously large number of mosques in Germany, with 200 new ones still in construction...
    Wow, its exactly the same in France except that its algerians rather than turks... anonymising the names, or changing an ethnic minority name with the typical french one, Marseille the "first Algerian city"...etc..
    Dire times...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kogen View Post
    They dump so many of their religious fanatics into Germany, even though Germany was a strong ally of Turkey.
    And I am still wondering why !?
    as the Turcs, since they took over Constantinople (vaillantly defended by the "vikings" of Varangian guard) were the traditional ennemies of the
    "Roman Empire of the German Nation"
    - Teutonic Knights protecting St John of Acre
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teutonic_Knights
    - 1st Siege of Vienna in 1529
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Vienna
    - 2st Siege of Vienna in 1683
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Vienna


    Despite of the (twisted *) alliance between England, France, Sardinia and Turkey against the Russian (and Bulgaria) during the Crimean war
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimean_War

    Ottoman Empire choose to fight against France/Italia/UK(+ANZAC) alliance
    in hope of getting a bit of Georgia and Suez I suppose.
    This made the UK supporting Arabian Nationalists (Legend of Col. Lawrence)
    On the turkisk side fought Rudolf Höss
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolf_H%C3%B6ss
    who would be the 1st commandant of Auschwitz concentration camp
    (what a reference !)
    with such allies no wonder such thing as the Armenian (Christian) Genocide happened
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenia...enian_Genocide
    According to Robert Merle fictionalized biographical novel
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_Is_My_Trade
    Hoss himself participate in the "ethnic purification" of an arab village during the 1st WW!
    These kind of thing were Ottoman tradition just look how christian children were converted to kill their brood
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janniss...ing_and_status
    Even today, situation with Kurds is not clear...

    No wonder later Turcs voluntered to flee the ruins of this Evil Empire.

    As always, because Turkey fight few month on the winning side (war declaration against Germany and Japan in February 1945, not a joke !)
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History...3.E2.80.931946
    all these sins of youth were forgotten an todays Turks could be brainwash by the propaganda of an Ottoman golden age.

    But sincerly I have more these Turk in pity than hate.
    Please tell them the truth. We shouldn't let Refugees (Kurds, Armenian, children of Balkanic slaves,...) be turned as Colonist for those who want a new Ottoman incursion.




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    I still do not understand why Christian countries prevented Slavic Christian countries to liberate Slavic Christian from Turcs Muslims ?

    Saxon & Frank should have help Rus cousin to blast the truc on the other side of Bosphore by pursuing the conquest until Constantinople !
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rus_(people)
    Pathetic.

    I usually don't care about soccer, but when some Turcs about the European Championship (in Switzerland Austria) were saying "This time Vienna will fall", I prayed for an German Victory in 1/2 final
    http://www.eurofoot2008.fr/index.php

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    Quote Originally Posted by Godwinson View Post
    Fortunately, there are relatively few Turks in the UK (at the moment!) because we get most of our Muslims from elsewhere.

    If the EU ever admits Turkey though the situation will be horrendous with 75 million of them free to travel wherever this wish. Their culture and mentality simply isn't European and only a tiny percentage of their country is actually situated in Europe - most of it is in the Middle east!
    Yes you are right, compared with Germany we do have relatively few Turks in the UK. But if you lived in my part of north London, you would think otherwise!

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    I have an example: The Green List in Landeck. In total, 11 people have been mentioned for the list, two inlanders (Michael Peintner, Wolfgang Egg) are mentioned for candidature, meaning 9/11 foreigners (mainly Turks). I saw 1-5 on a picture in the newspaper and it did not take much research to be able to find out 6-11.

    The entire known list for the Greens in Landeck is:

    1. Ahmed Demir
    2. Aptalla Bidav
    3. Mehmet Demir
    4. Ayse Acar
    (5. Michael Peintner (spokesperson))
    (6. Wolfgang Egg)
    7. Gülsen Karanlik
    8. Serdav Yaliniz
    9. Gökham Malic
    10. Pelek Umut
    11. Volkan Malic

    To them, an example of "lived integration". Still funny though it needs an inlander to act as a spokesperson? Does that perhaps mean their German isn't good enough or something?

    Either way, this above is just to demonstrated how far it's gone. Landeck is no major urban centure, but instead a small, picturesque town of approx. 7,600 inhabitants, some 60 miles westwards of Innsbruck.
    -In kalte Schatten versunken... /Germaniens Volk erstarrt / Gefroren von Lügen / In denen die Welt verharrt-
    -Die alte Seele trauernd und verlassen / Verblassend in einer erklärbaren Welt / Schwebend in einem Dunst der Wehmut / Ein Schrei der nur unmerklich gellt-
    -Auch ich verspüre Demut / Vor dem alten Geiste der Ahnen / Wird es mir vergönnt sein / Gen Walhalla aufzufahren?-

    (Heimdalls Wacht, In kalte Schatten versunken, stanzas 4-6)

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