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    Should Education Be Free?

    Should Education be free or should Fees be a Requirement?

    Here some Arguments in favor of free Education:
    • Education should be free because it is one of the key ways to decrease poverty. If education was forced to have fees the people in poverty would not by able to afford it. This would cripple the poor and put us in a society where only the middle class and rich prosper. (it's bad enough as it is). The people in poverty will never learn how to prevent diseases which plague their society, nor other resources to help them live better lives. As a society we should want to help those who are less fortunate.
    • To receive education is a human right, and because of that it should be free.
    • It has been proven that a carefully planned, structured & implemented education system brings with it real positive economic progress through the educated people who learnt through the system.
    • Educataion should be free and available to all, because in a democracy it is in everybody's interests that voters are smart and informed. Do you want some issue that affects you personally voted on by a bunch of uneducated morons?

    Some Arguments against:

    • While it is true that these days, the price of education seems awfully inflated, making education free is not an option. If education was not paid for, there would not be enough funds for the essential factors of quality education - good teachers, good facilities, up to date technology and textbooks. Teachers are people just like the rest of us; teaching is their job and how they make their living, so they must earn a salary. Think of how many schools there are around the country and amount of teachers at each one. If education was completely free, how would they all get paid? In conclusion, a free but less-than-satisfactory education will not be beneficial to students. It is better that education be paid for and be of good quality. If necessary, hard-working students can get scholarships and significantly reduce the cost of their education.
    • Self education is the best education. issues today ARE voted on by a bunch of uneducated morons because high school reinforces the herd mentality and people learn to do as they're told.


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    http://www.convinceme.net/colDebate.php?dib=207

    I support a free Education because I think Education should be a right, not a Privilege. I think everyone would benefit from an educated People in the Country.

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    In principle yes, education can and should be free. But in America now, migrant workers are paid better than most of the people who teach college classes. I don't know where the money from exhorbitant tuition goes, but it certainly does not go to those who do the work of challenging the students' minds.

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    Tough thing-in theory, it should be. However, in practice, it means people are taxed heavily to pay for a very poorly run school system. Also, you get cases like in the US where we are falling behind in important subjects like science&engineering, while much public funding goes towards students studying less productive things, as well as high salaries for administrators. Free education could exist in local collectives, run at a state or national level it turns into a disaster.

    Maybe private school vouchers for kids who have had a parent die or other such hardship cases.

    Higher (adult) education should be based on loans&private donations, that way people will only choose education which will give them a career that will allow them to repay the loans or that they otherwise highly value.
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    With the onset of the information age, I think public education is less valuable than it used to be. Anyone with internet access and the ability to read has access to much more info than a scholar would have 30 years ago. Couple that with a little initiative and there you go- trouble is people want to see a piece of paper (degree). I think technology will play a pivotal role if our education system is to recover.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuchulain View Post
    With the onset of the information age, I think public education is less valuable than it used to be. Anyone with internet access and the ability to read has access to much more info than a scholar would have 30 years ago.
    But does that barely literate one has the capacity to separate the foolsgold from the real gold so to speak. And actualy the Internet seems in part to be promoting lasynis in students, who just download ready made bookrevieuws and papers from companies offering them.

    So alto I agree with you we now have acces to more information, we also have more acces to infojunk.

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    Nothing is ever free.

    Yes, education should be publicly funded (there's plenty of data that suggests that is a better alternative from the point of view of the entire society, rather than the opposite), but that does not make it "free". The money used to fund public education has to come from somewhere, and that somewhere happens to be the purses of regular taxpayers like you and me.

    Think about it the next time you hear of someone squandering public education funds on some multikulti indoctrination seminars, or on hiring extra teachers who just have to be fluent in Somali/Urdu/Arabic/Kurdish/etc, and saying; "why worry? It's all free!"

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    We are now on the onset of the information age, a technological era that will need bright, well educated people but also a democracy of well-informed voters that will make good choices based on their knowledge of the world and everything that is on it.. Not every citizen can pay of his/her education so the State should take care of it, paid for by taxes.

    However I do think that the education system in my country is in desperate need of an overhaul. We need more specialist classes, smaller classes and more personal training. We are going to be in desperate need of teachers and a whole generation with specialist skills.

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    Education should not be "free" under any circumstance if it means the government taxing workers to provide a sub-performing monopoly which churns out braindead compliant citizens.

    Parents should be responsible for their children's education and arrange it themselves.

    Technology and vouchers are red herrings. Government education was a terrible idea in 1908 and it's a terrible idea in 2008.

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    I think education up to a certain age should be free and undivided, but later it should be divided in levels of ability or academic intelligence (like I perceive the German system to be). For universities, there should be entrance examinations (academics) and interviews (social intelligence) so that only the best and deserving students get into it and they should be subsidised accordingly. Other students may go to other universities but they must pay fees that are not so subsidised.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GroeneWolf View Post
    But does that barely literate one has the capacity to separate the foolsgold from the real gold so to speak. And actualy the Internet seems in part to be promoting lasynis in students, who just download ready made bookrevieuws and papers from companies offering them.

    So alto I agree with you we now have acces to more information, we also have more acces to infojunk.

    The barely literate one who can't distinguish between different ideas is no better off in a traditional setting. True there is a lot of crap on the internet, but there is also plenty of crap in all other types of media, as well as in the education system (i.e. professors with agendas, revisionist historical textbooks.) People who can't think for themselves and behave like sheep will always be around, and I don't think there is much that can be done for them, outside of them doing it for themselves.

    As ar as the internet promoting laziness, there is plenty of laziness in other areas of education too. People choose to be lazy, the internet does not make them lazy. If the convenience of the internet is such an overwhelming influence that it paralyzes ones initiative in life, I doubt that that person would be very effective regardless of whether they used the net or not.

    It all comes down to taking responsibility for ones self, and that has never been so easy with regard to education as it now with the internet. Quite convenient, considering that our education systems just get worse and worse as we pump more and more money into them.

    The internet is also an equalizer. People who have less money go to crappier schools, public or private (at least in USA). Then if they go to college, most folks must incur huge debt in order to pay for it. The internet provides the same info to everyone at essentially the same price.

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